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  • S Snollygoster

    Wow. I did not know that game was on ! Anyone know anything about Onisis Ratave ?

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    Cpt Kumera
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    @snollygoster he was in fiji squad for the two tests against all blacks but didnt get used. Was also in fiji 7s squad

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      Is that the Nili Latu? Wiki says he is 39 now.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Is that the Nili Latu? Wiki says he is 39 now.

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        @bovidae Its possible. I saw that he played some Auckland club rugby this season. I think for Marist. A legend of the game.

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        • M Mackerzzzz

          @daffy-jaffy said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

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          What's with the team names? It's very obviously Counties players

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          @mackerzzzz Cavaliers is the name of Counties' development team or wtg, I think. It's a bit like Wellington XV, Manawatu Evergreens, Hawke's Bay Saracens etc. I think they use that name until the NPC squad is named.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @higgins said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

            This is an interesting read about the assembling of a Bunnings NPC Squad

            This info was news to me.

            Next year NZ Rugby is to rigidly enforce a nationwide salary cap of $950,000 without any jiggery-pokery, such as third-party deals. About time too.

            The article says that Manawatu's salary total is about $900K, so I expect many of the larger provinces will have to make a significant reduction in player payments.

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            @bovidae said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

            @higgins said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

            This is an interesting read about the assembling of a Bunnings NPC Squad

            This info was news to me.

            Next year NZ Rugby is to rigidly enforce a nationwide salary cap of $950,000 without any jiggery-pokery, such as third-party deals. About time too.

            The article says that Manawatu's salary total is about $900K, so I expect many of the larger provinces will have to make a significant reduction in player payments.

            Contrary to what is stated in that article, the $950,000 salary cap is still to be negotiated. It requires agreement with the NZRPA, which, as yet, has not been achieved.

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              https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15658/rugby-union/new-zealand/new-zealand-npc/outrights?outrightseventid=1015660

              Grand Final Winner-New Zealand NPC Championship 2021

              North Harbour
              2.88

              Otago
              3.40

              Taranaki
              5.00

              Northland
              7.00

              Counties Manukau
              9.00

              Manawatu
              21.00

              Southland
              21.00

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                https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15658/rugby-union%2Fnew-zealand%2Fnew-zealand-npc/outrights

                Grand Final Winner-New Zealand NPC Premiership 2021

                Ta$man
                4.00

                Auckland
                4.50

                Canterbury
                4.50

                Wellington
                6.00

                Bay of Plenty
                8.00

                Waikato
                8.00

                Hawke's Bay
                10.00

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                    Final score from Kaitaia
                    North Harbour 43 Northland 17 halftime 31-5
                    Harbour fielded a full strength team in the first half only missing Bryn Hall and Northland started with very much under strength team and it showed in the first half ..Northland did not play any of their super players ..from home side point of the set piece scrum and lineout were very solid ..
                    Harbour were superb in the outside backs and exposed Northland out wide with their pace ..NZ 7s player Moses Leo superb
                    Have had to rely from people who were at the game
                    Bryn Gatland controlled things nicely from first five

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                    • S Steven Harris

                      Final score from Kaitaia
                      North Harbour 43 Northland 17 halftime 31-5
                      Harbour fielded a full strength team in the first half only missing Bryn Hall and Northland started with very much under strength team and it showed in the first half ..Northland did not play any of their super players ..from home side point of the set piece scrum and lineout were very solid ..
                      Harbour were superb in the outside backs and exposed Northland out wide with their pace ..NZ 7s player Moses Leo superb
                      Have had to rely from people who were at the game
                      Bryn Gatland controlled things nicely from first five

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                      #4059

                      @steven-harris Heard anything about Lemeki Namoa? Injured?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @steven-harris Heard anything about Lemeki Namoa? Injured?

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                        Steven Harris
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                        @tim have had to rely on people at the game ,no team sheets ,really frustrating..

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                        • S Steven Harris

                          @tim have had to rely on people at the game ,no team sheets ,really frustrating..

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                          taniwharugby
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                          @steven-harris

                          @J77 was there, said our forwards were solid but backs poor, no pace outwide (Tamati Tua be one of our quickest backs, but also didn't play) think we had Grant, Hawkins, Hohaia as our 9, 10 and 12...

                          Interesting decision not to play our super players, Gregory must not have played since early June.

                          Next week's lineup will ge Interesting

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @steven-harris

                            @J77 was there, said our forwards were solid but backs poor, no pace outwide (Tamati Tua be one of our quickest backs, but also didn't play) think we had Grant, Hawkins, Hohaia as our 9, 10 and 12...

                            Interesting decision not to play our super players, Gregory must not have played since early June.

                            Next week's lineup will ge Interesting

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                            Steven Harris
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                            @taniwharugby apparently Rivers Reihana came on for the last 10 minutes and was the best of 10sšŸ˜‚

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                              @taniwharugby apparently Rivers Reihana came on for the last 10 minutes and was the best of 10sšŸ˜‚

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                              taniwharugby
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                              #4063

                              @steven-harris well my feelings on Hawkins are well known, so it was never gonna be hard to be better...

                              While it'd be nice to win pre season games, ultimately they end up meaning jack shit.

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                                #4064

                                Went along to this today. 43-17 to Harbour. Harbour came out of the blocks firing after conceding the first try to Blake Hohaia. They were up by nearly 30 at the break.

                                There were no team lists avaible which was poor, so excuse me if I get names etc wrong. This was coupled with the fact Northland played in what looked like training shirts, half of which weren’t numbered.

                                Northland dominated the second half but never really looked like overhauling Harbours lead at any point.

                                One thing to note is that all Northland’s super players were rested and Harbour had the likes of Gatland and that Blues back up hooker (forget his name) on deck amongst some other familiar faces.

                                What really stood out from Northlands perspective was how they got burnt out on the edges time and time again. The back three of Leilua, Hyland and Macilai got turned around by some clever Harbour kicking and were made to look like they had concrete in their boots.

                                Leilua was caught out of position on several occasions and the wingers were forced infield a lot which created overlaps.

                                Up front the forwards competed well enough and held their own in the set piece. Was impressed with Hallam-Eames, he’s a monster and got through 80 mins.

                                A few of our replacements came on and made a difference, particularly Jordan Olsen, he was into everything.

                                A couple of our big loosies (apologies I don’t know their names, maybe Funaki and Manu) made good yards with the ball in hand too.

                                Will Grant at 9 is a gutsy little bugger and took some big contact. Was quite impressed with Kerikeris Corey Taylor when he came on, his service was very good. Could be a toss up to see who backs Nock up this year.

                                All up, hard to judge things on today, we’ve got heaps of firepower to come back so things could change.

                                One thing we need to work on is the back play. It’s crucial we get things right out in the back three especially as I can see that’s where we will be targeted.

                                I’m hoping to see a better showing with a stronger lineup against Auckland next week.

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                                • J J77

                                  Went along to this today. 43-17 to Harbour. Harbour came out of the blocks firing after conceding the first try to Blake Hohaia. They were up by nearly 30 at the break.

                                  There were no team lists avaible which was poor, so excuse me if I get names etc wrong. This was coupled with the fact Northland played in what looked like training shirts, half of which weren’t numbered.

                                  Northland dominated the second half but never really looked like overhauling Harbours lead at any point.

                                  One thing to note is that all Northland’s super players were rested and Harbour had the likes of Gatland and that Blues back up hooker (forget his name) on deck amongst some other familiar faces.

                                  What really stood out from Northlands perspective was how they got burnt out on the edges time and time again. The back three of Leilua, Hyland and Macilai got turned around by some clever Harbour kicking and were made to look like they had concrete in their boots.

                                  Leilua was caught out of position on several occasions and the wingers were forced infield a lot which created overlaps.

                                  Up front the forwards competed well enough and held their own in the set piece. Was impressed with Hallam-Eames, he’s a monster and got through 80 mins.

                                  A few of our replacements came on and made a difference, particularly Jordan Olsen, he was into everything.

                                  A couple of our big loosies (apologies I don’t know their names, maybe Funaki and Manu) made good yards with the ball in hand too.

                                  Will Grant at 9 is a gutsy little bugger and took some big contact. Was quite impressed with Kerikeris Corey Taylor when he came on, his service was very good. Could be a toss up to see who backs Nock up this year.

                                  All up, hard to judge things on today, we’ve got heaps of firepower to come back so things could change.

                                  One thing we need to work on is the back play. It’s crucial we get things right out in the back three especially as I can see that’s where we will be targeted.

                                  I’m hoping to see a better showing with a stronger lineup against Auckland next week.

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                                  taniwharugby
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                                  @j77 Hyland has always been slow turning around and our wings always seem set up narrow and give thier opposite the outside break.

                                  So by the sounds maybe only a few that started are likely starter's going forward.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @j77 Hyland has always been slow turning around and our wings always seem set up narrow and give thier opposite the outside break.

                                    So by the sounds maybe only a few that started are likely starter's going forward.

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                                    #4066

                                    @taniwharugby yep and not much has been addressed in this area by the looks.

                                    I’d surprised if half our lineup today gets starting spots to be honest

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                                      https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15658/rugby-union%2Fnew-zealand%2Fnew-zealand-npc/outrights

                                      Grand Final Winner-New Zealand NPC Premiership 2021

                                      Ta$man
                                      4.00

                                      Auckland
                                      4.50

                                      Canterbury
                                      4.50

                                      Wellington
                                      6.00

                                      Bay of Plenty
                                      8.00

                                      Waikato
                                      8.00

                                      Hawke's Bay
                                      10.00

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                                      Nepia
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                                      @tim said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

                                      https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15658/rugby-union%2Fnew-zealand%2Fnew-zealand-npc/outrights

                                      Grand Final Winner-New Zealand NPC Premiership 2021

                                      Ta$man
                                      4.00

                                      Auckland
                                      4.50

                                      Canterbury
                                      4.50

                                      Wellington
                                      6.00

                                      Bay of Plenty
                                      8.00

                                      Waikato
                                      8.00

                                      Hawke's Bay
                                      10.00

                                      I thought we'd at least be at $8 considering we knocked over two of the three Div 1 teams we played last year.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @tim said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

                                        https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/competition/15658/rugby-union%2Fnew-zealand%2Fnew-zealand-npc/outrights

                                        Grand Final Winner-New Zealand NPC Premiership 2021

                                        Ta$man
                                        4.00

                                        Auckland
                                        4.50

                                        Canterbury
                                        4.50

                                        Wellington
                                        6.00

                                        Bay of Plenty
                                        8.00

                                        Waikato
                                        8.00

                                        Hawke's Bay
                                        10.00

                                        I thought we'd at least be at $8 considering we knocked over two of the three Div 1 teams we played last year.

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                                        Stargazer
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                                        @nepia Wasn't it last year that they didn't even see us make the semi-finals?

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @nepia Wasn't it last year that they didn't even see us make the semi-finals?

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                                          Steven Harris
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                                          @stargazer I find that a little strange, no way on gods earth were Hawkes Bay ever going to be ranked behind Northland ,Manawatu and Southland last year ,based on that alone that would have put them in the top 4..

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