Electric Vehicles
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@victor-meldrew I'd happily buy a PHEV, but the tax breaks aren't there for them.
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@majorrage Tax isn't an issue for us, more practicality. Ideally we need a 4x4 which isn't too big due to the roads we use. Nothing in the PHEV market which really fits our needs. The Subaru Forrester PHEV would be pretty ideal but its electric range is too small.
Sense the manufacturers are making a direct switch to EV's and there won't be many PHEV's which meet our needs. Think we'll have a reasonable choice and sensible charging infrastructure in a couple of years time. Might combine that with solar power on the house.
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@victor-meldrew doesn’t solar power work off sunshine?
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@victor-meldrew Yeah, understand. We are currently a 3 car family - big family car, small station / town runner and my toy. With the toy not going anywhere (I hope), I think our options to bringing something electric in to replace the family car and runner. The X5 is probably the best car I've ever owned and I'm loathe to be rid of it, but the economics of ditching that and the runner for the Q4 are extremely appealing. I barely commute anymore and will likely move to electric scooter for station / x-city and a basic refusal to go in if it's raining ...
The iX does look sensational though & the first reviews of it are pretty exciting. So perhaps we just wait 18 months for that.
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@crucial said in Electric Vehicles:
@victor-meldrew doesn’t solar power work off sunshine?
2020 sunniest ever year in the UK. I looked up our area and we had more sun than Auckland & Tauranga.
Don't go bringing 2021 into the equation though ....
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@crucial said in Electric Vehicles:
@victor-meldrew doesn’t solar power work off sunshine?
We get plenty of that, just plenty of wind and rain as well.
We have a 2 acre field which we really don't use (apart from the mini-orchard we've planted) so a mini-solar farm would give us almost free power and an RoI of around 10-15%
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@majorrage I sense one of the new cars coming thru will meet our needs - poss. from Hyundai/Kia (was really impressed with the eNiro) or the VW ID 2 platform. The Ioniq 5 gets rave reviews and could meet our needs pretty well.
My baseline is our Skoda Yeti - I love the space, practicality, reliability and comfort of the thing and it's been perfect for us.
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Bentley make a hybrid Flying Spur...
Ford won't bring the electric F150 to Oz, so I'm hoping they make a hybrid Ranger.
I really like the Honda E as a town car too.
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@victor-meldrew said in Electric Vehicles:
Had an interesting talk with a dealer in West Cornwall who told me the worry for many of his customers was towing trailers or caravans and the big hit on range
Towing affects efficiency. Who knew?
Good thing combustion engine cars are immune to that
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@victor-meldrew said in Electric Vehicles:
Had an interesting talk with a dealer in West Cornwall who told me the worry for many of his customers was towing trailers or caravans and the big hit on range
Towing affects efficiency. Who knew?
Good thing combustion engine cars are immune to that
It's ease of refuelling v re-charging which should resolve itself when the infrastructure and 800v charging becomes the norm in a few years time.
Rules around transporting livestock are also an issue as you can only be stationary for a limited time.
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@victor-meldrew said in Electric Vehicles:
Rules around transporting livestock are also an issue as you can only be stationary for a limited time.
Didn't know that.
But are you really going THAT far? The UK doesn't seem that... well... big...
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
But are you really going THAT far? The UK doesn't seem that... well... big...
We regularly travel over 300 miles in a day and plenty of caravans do 200-300 miles a day. Dealer told me a Skoda Enyaq/Audi Q4 will tow a small caravan 100-120 miles on a full charge. Farmer up the lane regularly does 150 -200 mile round trips with livestock. (I don't know how normal this is). That's going to mean at least a 30-60 minute charge time.
Better charging infrastructure and a tweaking of rules will make it work though.
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@victor-meldrew said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
But are you really going THAT far? The UK doesn't seem that... well... big...
Farmer up the lane regularly does 150 -200 mile round trips with livestock. (I don't know how normal this is).
Where is he taking them? Family visit?
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@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
@victor-meldrew said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
But are you really going THAT far? The UK doesn't seem that... well... big...
Farmer up the lane regularly does 150 -200 mile round trips with livestock. (I don't know how normal this is).
Where is he taking them? Family visit?
A date?
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@crucial said in Electric Vehicles:
@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
@victor-meldrew said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
But are you really going THAT far? The UK doesn't seem that... well... big...
Farmer up the lane regularly does 150 -200 mile round trips with livestock. (I don't know how normal this is).
Where is he taking them? Family visit?
A date?
He’s not in Australia.
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@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@crucial said in Electric Vehicles:
@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
@victor-meldrew said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
But are you really going THAT far? The UK doesn't seem that... well... big...
Farmer up the lane regularly does 150 -200 mile round trips with livestock. (I don't know how normal this is).
Where is he taking them? Family visit?
A date?
He’s not in Australia.
Yup. Cornwall.
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@victor-meldrew said in Electric Vehicles:
@majorrage I sense one of the new cars coming thru will meet our needs - poss. from Hyundai/Kia (was really impressed with the eNiro) or the VW ID 2 platform. The Ioniq 5 gets rave reviews and could meet our needs pretty well.
My baseline is our Skoda Yeti - I love the space, practicality, reliability and comfort of the thing and it's been perfect for us.
There is a Skoda electric hatch/SUV but not sure it will ever gain the underground cult status of the Yeti..
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@nostrildamus said in Electric Vehicles:
There is a Skoda electric hatch/SUV but not sure it will ever gain the underground cult status of the Yeti..
That's the Enyaq - too big for me and no PHEV version.
Yeah, I didn't realise the Yeti was such a cult car until I started talking to the dealers - told me they were horrified when Skoda axed it.
