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    Big result for Aus last night with Ash Moloney taking bronze in the decathlon. We've never won a medal in that event before, so it's an incredible achievement.

    It's probably a top five moment of these games for me. Winning gold is nice but it's left field stuff, unexpected stuff like this that is what the games are all about.

    Athletics medals should count double or triple, given the width and depth of the talent pool. You're genuinely competing against every nation. It's nice to win in swimming or rowing or kayaking or equestrian or cycling, but those are a rich nations' game.

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    • barbarianB barbarian

      Big result for Aus last night with Ash Moloney taking bronze in the decathlon. We've never won a medal in that event before, so it's an incredible achievement.

      It's probably a top five moment of these games for me. Winning gold is nice but it's left field stuff, unexpected stuff like this that is what the games are all about.

      Athletics medals should count double or triple, given the width and depth of the talent pool. You're genuinely competing against every nation. It's nice to win in swimming or rowing or kayaking or equestrian or cycling, but those are a rich nations' game.

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      @barbarian said in Olympics Thread:

      Big result for Aus last night with Ash Moloney taking bronze in the decathlon. We've never won a medal in that event before, so it's an incredible achievement.

      It's probably a top five moment of these games for me. Winning gold is nice but it's left field stuff, unexpected stuff like this that is what the games are all about.

      Athletics medals should count double or triple, given the width and depth of the talent pool. You're genuinely competing against every nation. It's nice to win in swimming or rowing or kayaking or equestrian or cycling, but those are a rich nations' game.

      It was great of his team mate to pace him and help him run the time he did. Completely sacrificed his own result.

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      • barbarianB barbarian

        Big result for Aus last night with Ash Moloney taking bronze in the decathlon. We've never won a medal in that event before, so it's an incredible achievement.

        It's probably a top five moment of these games for me. Winning gold is nice but it's left field stuff, unexpected stuff like this that is what the games are all about.

        Athletics medals should count double or triple, given the width and depth of the talent pool. You're genuinely competing against every nation. It's nice to win in swimming or rowing or kayaking or equestrian or cycling, but those are a rich nations' game.

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        @barbarian @antipodean

        Just finished reading this, top boke!

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @barbarian @antipodean

          Just finished reading this, top boke!

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

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          @taniwharugby said in Olympics Thread:

          @barbarian @antipodean

          Just finished reading this, top boke!

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

          I'm torn on this. I mean, it's an individual sport right, presumably the bloke in 4th didn't have the benefit of a pacer? Cool gesture, but you'd be gutted if you're the other guy

          As an aside, how cool is the Walsh video in that article!

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            @taniwharugby said in Olympics Thread:

            @barbarian @antipodean

            Just finished reading this, top boke!

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

            I'm torn on this. I mean, it's an individual sport right, presumably the bloke in 4th didn't have the benefit of a pacer? Cool gesture, but you'd be gutted if you're the other guy

            As an aside, how cool is the Walsh video in that article!

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            @voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

            @taniwharugby said in Olympics Thread:

            @barbarian @antipodean

            Just finished reading this, top boke!

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

            I'm torn on this. I mean, it's an individual sport right, presumably the bloke in 4th didn't have the benefit of a pacer? Cool gesture, but you'd be gutted if you're the other guy

            I watched the race, and Dubler didn't exactly act as a pacemaker. They weren't together through the whole race. Just a section before Dubler dropped away and left Moloney on his own.

            If he paced him the whole way you'd raise an eyebrow, but I suppose the Kenyans/Ethiopians do that all the time in the distance races so it's not really out of the ordinary.

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            • barbarianB barbarian

              @voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

              @taniwharugby said in Olympics Thread:

              @barbarian @antipodean

              Just finished reading this, top boke!

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

              I'm torn on this. I mean, it's an individual sport right, presumably the bloke in 4th didn't have the benefit of a pacer? Cool gesture, but you'd be gutted if you're the other guy

              I watched the race, and Dubler didn't exactly act as a pacemaker. They weren't together through the whole race. Just a section before Dubler dropped away and left Moloney on his own.

              If he paced him the whole way you'd raise an eyebrow, but I suppose the Kenyans/Ethiopians do that all the time in the distance races so it's not really out of the ordinary.

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              @barbarian said in Olympics Thread:

              @voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

              @taniwharugby said in Olympics Thread:

              @barbarian @antipodean

              Just finished reading this, top boke!

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

              I'm torn on this. I mean, it's an individual sport right, presumably the bloke in 4th didn't have the benefit of a pacer? Cool gesture, but you'd be gutted if you're the other guy

              I watched the race, and Dubler didn't exactly act as a pacemaker. They weren't together through the whole race. Just a section before Dubler dropped away and left Moloney on his own.

              If he paced him the whole way you'd raise an eyebrow, but I suppose the Kenyans/Ethiopians do that all the time in the distance races so it's not really out of the ordinary.

              They do it deliberately, to the point one of them is designated not to finish the race. At least Dubler did. Nothing wrong with some encouragement from a mate in my eyes. You still have to physically run the time.

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @barbarian said in Olympics Thread:

                @voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

                @taniwharugby said in Olympics Thread:

                @barbarian @antipodean

                Just finished reading this, top boke!

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

                I'm torn on this. I mean, it's an individual sport right, presumably the bloke in 4th didn't have the benefit of a pacer? Cool gesture, but you'd be gutted if you're the other guy

                I watched the race, and Dubler didn't exactly act as a pacemaker. They weren't together through the whole race. Just a section before Dubler dropped away and left Moloney on his own.

                If he paced him the whole way you'd raise an eyebrow, but I suppose the Kenyans/Ethiopians do that all the time in the distance races so it's not really out of the ordinary.

                They do it deliberately, to the point one of them is designated not to finish the race. At least Dubler did. Nothing wrong with some encouragement from a mate in my eyes. You still have to physically run the time.

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                @antipodean Yeah I agree. That's all it was - encouragement. And he deserved the medal.

                I saw on Twitter his times across the events, if he did them in the standalone events at the Aussie nationals, would land him first in the 400m final, 3rd in the 100m, javelin and pole vault, 4th in the 110m hurdles and high jump, and 5th in the long jump.

                That's just astounding. What an athlete.

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                • barbarianB barbarian

                  @antipodean Yeah I agree. That's all it was - encouragement. And he deserved the medal.

                  I saw on Twitter his times across the events, if he did them in the standalone events at the Aussie nationals, would land him first in the 400m final, 3rd in the 100m, javelin and pole vault, 4th in the 110m hurdles and high jump, and 5th in the long jump.

                  That's just astounding. What an athlete.

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                  @barbarian said in Olympics Thread:

                  @antipodean Yeah I agree. That's all it was - encouragement. And he deserved the medal.

                  I saw on Twitter his times across the events, if he did them in the standalone events at the Aussie nationals, would land him first in the 400m final, 3rd in the 100m, javelin and pole vault, 4th in the 110m hurdles and high jump, and 5th in the long jump.

                  That's just astounding. What an athlete.

                  Decathletes are mental. The scoring system is interesting too; the world record is a bit over 9000, if you take all the best scores recorded by a decathlete in competition you'd have a score just over 10,000 and if you took the world record in each event you'd be just over 12,000. That doesn't seem like that much of an advantage for a specialist over a guy who has to master 10 events!

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                    @antipodean Yeah I agree. That's all it was - encouragement. And he deserved the medal.

                    I saw on Twitter his times across the events, if he did them in the standalone events at the Aussie nationals, would land him first in the 400m final, 3rd in the 100m, javelin and pole vault, 4th in the 110m hurdles and high jump, and 5th in the long jump.

                    That's just astounding. What an athlete.

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                    @barbarian said in Olympics Thread:

                    @antipodean Yeah I agree. That's all it was - encouragement. And he deserved the medal.

                    I saw on Twitter his times across the events, if he did them in the standalone events at the Aussie nationals, would land him first in the 400m final, 3rd in the 100m, javelin and pole vault, 4th in the 110m hurdles and high jump, and 5th in the long jump.

                    That's just astounding. What an athlete.

                    that is fucking nuts!!!

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                      Also I have ranked all the Olympic sports. Criteria is how much I enjoy watching them.

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                      • barbarianB barbarian

                        @antipodean Yeah I agree. That's all it was - encouragement. And he deserved the medal.

                        I saw on Twitter his times across the events, if he did them in the standalone events at the Aussie nationals, would land him first in the 400m final, 3rd in the 100m, javelin and pole vault, 4th in the 110m hurdles and high jump, and 5th in the long jump.

                        That's just astounding. What an athlete.

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                        @barbarian said in Olympics Thread:

                        @antipodean Yeah I agree. That's all it was - encouragement. And he deserved the medal.

                        I saw on Twitter his times across the events, if he did them in the standalone events at the Aussie nationals, would land him first in the 400m final, 3rd in the 100m, javelin and pole vault, 4th in the 110m hurdles and high jump, and 5th in the long jump.

                        That's just astounding. What an athlete.

                        that sorta refutes my point a little but

                        i feel like the decathlon should be first, not late in the piece. I realise it's not specialists and all that, and the "skill" is doing everything to a pretty high standard, but everything is slower/ shorter than the events you have already watched.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @barbarian said in Olympics Thread:

                          @voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

                          @taniwharugby said in Olympics Thread:

                          @barbarian @antipodean

                          Just finished reading this, top boke!

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

                          I'm torn on this. I mean, it's an individual sport right, presumably the bloke in 4th didn't have the benefit of a pacer? Cool gesture, but you'd be gutted if you're the other guy

                          I watched the race, and Dubler didn't exactly act as a pacemaker. They weren't together through the whole race. Just a section before Dubler dropped away and left Moloney on his own.

                          If he paced him the whole way you'd raise an eyebrow, but I suppose the Kenyans/Ethiopians do that all the time in the distance races so it's not really out of the ordinary.

                          They do it deliberately, to the point one of them is designated not to finish the race. At least Dubler did. Nothing wrong with some encouragement from a mate in my eyes. You still have to physically run the time.

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                          @antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

                          @barbarian said in Olympics Thread:

                          @voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

                          @taniwharugby said in Olympics Thread:

                          @barbarian @antipodean

                          Just finished reading this, top boke!

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

                          I'm torn on this. I mean, it's an individual sport right, presumably the bloke in 4th didn't have the benefit of a pacer? Cool gesture, but you'd be gutted if you're the other guy

                          I watched the race, and Dubler didn't exactly act as a pacemaker. They weren't together through the whole race. Just a section before Dubler dropped away and left Moloney on his own.

                          If he paced him the whole way you'd raise an eyebrow, but I suppose the Kenyans/Ethiopians do that all the time in the distance races so it's not really out of the ordinary.

                          They do it deliberately, to the point one of them is designated not to finish the race. At least Dubler did. Nothing wrong with some encouragement from a mate in my eyes. You still have to physically run the time.

                          Not saying it's "wrong" - and I have the same "issue" with proper pacing in distance events. It just doesn't sit 100%. Your coach has to sit in the stands, seems just slightly off that a teammate can take that role. I mean according to the article Maloney reckons he wouldn't have got there without the assistance (apparently, no direct quote) - "Moloney felt he wouldn’t have made the podium without Dubler"

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                          • voodooV voodoo

                            @antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

                            @barbarian said in Olympics Thread:

                            @voodoo said in Olympics Thread:

                            @taniwharugby said in Olympics Thread:

                            @barbarian @antipodean

                            Just finished reading this, top boke!

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/125989033/tokyo-olympics-selfless-act-gets-aussie-team-mate-on-to-podium-as-spirit-of-olympics-shines

                            I'm torn on this. I mean, it's an individual sport right, presumably the bloke in 4th didn't have the benefit of a pacer? Cool gesture, but you'd be gutted if you're the other guy

                            I watched the race, and Dubler didn't exactly act as a pacemaker. They weren't together through the whole race. Just a section before Dubler dropped away and left Moloney on his own.

                            If he paced him the whole way you'd raise an eyebrow, but I suppose the Kenyans/Ethiopians do that all the time in the distance races so it's not really out of the ordinary.

                            They do it deliberately, to the point one of them is designated not to finish the race. At least Dubler did. Nothing wrong with some encouragement from a mate in my eyes. You still have to physically run the time.

                            Not saying it's "wrong" - and I have the same "issue" with proper pacing in distance events. It just doesn't sit 100%. Your coach has to sit in the stands, seems just slightly off that a teammate can take that role. I mean according to the article Maloney reckons he wouldn't have got there without the assistance (apparently, no direct quote) - "Moloney felt he wouldn’t have made the podium without Dubler"

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                            @voodoo I understand your point, but short of preventing countrymen from participating in the same event, there's not much you can do.

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                              The Germans haven’t had the greatest Olympics but their names continue to spread joy:

                              https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic-games/en/results/karate/athlete-profile-n1317056-bitsch-noah.htm

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                                @voodoo I understand your point, but short of preventing countrymen from participating in the same event, there's not much you can do.

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                                @antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

                                @voodoo I understand your point, but short of preventing countrymen from participating in the same event, there's not much you can do.

                                Interesting point. Probably shouldn't be allowed, or it should in every sport.

                                Other sports can't have it. One boat per country in rowing for example. We would more than likely have a first and second with Drysdale and Waddell but only one was allowed to go.

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                                  @antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

                                  @voodoo I understand your point, but short of preventing countrymen from participating in the same event, there's not much you can do.

                                  Interesting point. Probably shouldn't be allowed, or it should in every sport.

                                  Other sports can't have it. One boat per country in rowing for example. We would more than likely have a first and second with Drysdale and Waddell but only one was allowed to go.

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                                  @snowy F1 has copped plenty over the years for the way teams manipulate the results.

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                                    @antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

                                    @voodoo I understand your point, but short of preventing countrymen from participating in the same event, there's not much you can do.

                                    Interesting point. Probably shouldn't be allowed, or it should in every sport.

                                    Other sports can't have it. One boat per country in rowing for example. We would more than likely have a first and second with Drysdale and Waddell but only one was allowed to go.

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                                    @snowy said in Olympics Thread:

                                    @antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

                                    @voodoo I understand your point, but short of preventing countrymen from participating in the same event, there's not much you can do.

                                    Interesting point. Probably shouldn't be allowed, or it should in every sport.

                                    Other sports can't have it. One boat per country in rowing for example. We would more than likely have a first and second with Drysdale and Waddell but only one was allowed to go.

                                    And yet you can have multiple boats in the kayaking. Go figure.

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                                      Big result for Aus last night with Ash Moloney taking bronze in the decathlon. We've never won a medal in that event before, so it's an incredible achievement.

                                      It's probably a top five moment of these games for me. Winning gold is nice but it's left field stuff, unexpected stuff like this that is what the games are all about.

                                      Athletics medals should count double or triple, given the width and depth of the talent pool. You're genuinely competing against every nation. It's nice to win in swimming or rowing or kayaking or equestrian or cycling, but those are a rich nations' game.

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                                      @barbarian said in Olympics Thread:

                                      Big result for Aus last night with Ash Moloney taking bronze in the decathlon. We've never won a medal in that event before, so it's an incredible achievement.

                                      It's probably a top five moment of these games for me. Winning gold is nice but it's left field stuff, unexpected stuff like this that is what the games are all about.

                                      Athletics medals should count double or triple, given the width and depth of the talent pool. You're genuinely competing against every nation. It's nice to win in swimming or rowing or kayaking or equestrian or cycling, but those are a rich nations' game.

                                      Just looking at the flags for the karate it would appear that it is the sport for the “poorer” nations.

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                                        @snowy said in Olympics Thread:

                                        @antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

                                        @voodoo I understand your point, but short of preventing countrymen from participating in the same event, there's not much you can do.

                                        Interesting point. Probably shouldn't be allowed, or it should in every sport.

                                        Other sports can't have it. One boat per country in rowing for example. We would more than likely have a first and second with Drysdale and Waddell but only one was allowed to go.

                                        And yet you can have multiple boats in the kayaking. Go figure.

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                                        @barbarian isnt this year the first year they have allowed multiple boats in Kayak?

                                        Is a ridiculous rule really, we had Waddell and Drysdale competing for the NZ boat a couple of Olympics back when they'd likely be competing with one another for the gold!

                                        How many Yanks or Jamaicans make a 100m sprint final usually?

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                                          A good race by the women's K4 500m to finish 2nd to the favourites Hungary in the heat and advance to the SF on Sat, and rest. NZ led most of the way.

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