Springboks v British & Irish Lions III
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@tordah France have had their moments and so have Fiji but yes to the rest.
how is Gatland's coaching rep looking like now? Doesn't seem to have been a great year/season for him.
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how is Gatland's coaching rep looking like now? Doesn't seem to have been a great year/season for him.
@nostrildamus said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
how is Gatland's coaching rep looking like now? Doesn't seem to have been a great year/season for him.
he is a really really good coach.
In terms of NZers I'd like to see coaching us, it'd be
Rennie
Robertson
Joseph/Brown/Gatland
Daylight
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@nzzp said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
I'm in a minority, but I enjoyed that game and the series. The rugby never reached great heights, but it was meaningful competition, and games we don't see often. I was happy with it.
Astonished teh try to Kolbe got awarded though - looked a clear knockon by the Bokke. Still, those 50/50 have defined the series - and arguably Boks were better all the way through.
Australia in 4 yers will be interesting. Hopefully travelling supporters at last!
I still enjoyed it, despite it being horrible. Such a huge occasion, stories and history being made. A great shame that covid prevented the team seeing the sights and meeting the people, and of course crowds in the stands.
It's a weird one to look back on. I feel like the Lions were the better team for much of the series. If I was scoring it like a boxing match, I'd say
Round 1 (1st half of the 1st test) was tied
Round 2 - Lions
Round 3 - Lions
Round 4 - Boks
Round 5 - Lions
Round 6 - tied
But that doesn't reflect the fact that the Bok scored points when they were on top, and the Lions didn't. Two tries, both from mauls, across the 3 tests is telling.Also thought it looked like a knock-on, but I can see why it wasn't called. Three key moments in the last 2 tests where the footage was inconclusive (this one, Henshaw's non-try and Am's try) and they just had to stick with the on field call. All 3 favouring the Boks - but I'm not complaining about those, that's just the way it goes sometimes. Close incidents in close matches can go either way.
@gibbonrib Reckon Test 1 was more Tied/Tied, with some reffing decisions going Lions way.
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@nepia said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
Steyn, 37, hasn't played a test in 5 years. Crazy.
Yeah but how hard is it? Kick the goals, then go stand in the back field and wait for the inevitable bomb, which your wingers or fullback will defuse, for you to clear. The Boks played 4 in the back field for the majority of the game.
It pretty much illustrates where the boks are: try not to lose.
They've added a huge dose of siege mentality with a massive victim complex crossover, this series. They are performing a good job of self-isolation in a way that apartheid can't quite match.
They'll get short shrift when they go up north... IF they ever go up north again.
Will they turn up for TRC?
@nta said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@nepia said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
Steyn, 37, hasn't played a test in 5 years. Crazy.
Yeah but how hard is it? Kick the goals, then go stand in the back field and wait for the inevitable bomb, which your wingers or fullback will defuse, for you to clear. The Boks played 4 in the back field for the majority of the game.
It pretty much illustrates where the boks are: try not to lose.
They've added a huge dose of siege mentality with a massive victim complex crossover, this series. They are performing a good job of self-isolation in a way that apartheid can't quite match.
They'll get short shrift when they go up north... IF they ever go up north again.
Will they turn up for TRC?
Added?
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@nepia said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
Steyn, 37, hasn't played a test in 5 years. Crazy.
Yeah but how hard is it? Kick the goals, then go stand in the back field and wait for the inevitable bomb, which your wingers or fullback will defuse, for you to clear. The Boks played 4 in the back field for the majority of the game.
It pretty much illustrates where the boks are: try not to lose.
They've added a huge dose of siege mentality with a massive victim complex crossover, this series. They are performing a good job of self-isolation in a way that apartheid can't quite match.
They'll get short shrift when they go up north... IF they ever go up north again.
Will they turn up for TRC?
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@gibbonrib said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
The worst thing is that when we think back on this tour, there are barely any rugby moments that stick in the mind
Conor Murray landing on his face, maybe
@nta said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@gibbonrib said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
The worst thing is that when we think back on this tour, there are barely any rugby moments that stick in the mind
Conor Murray landing on his face, maybe
That was his back remember? O'Keeffe and Jonker both confirmed it
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@oompb said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@nta why not?
I guess he means that covid might still sabotage the Rugby Championship (if that's the post you were replying to)
@gibbonrib can't see the Springboks not playing. We are past our 3rd peak.
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@gibbonrib can't see the Springboks not playing. We are past our 3rd peak.
@oompb said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@gibbonrib can't see the Springboks not playing. We are past our 3rd peak.
Hope so, glad to hear that things are getting better there. I'm sure it's a logistical nightmare to organise with all the different restrictions and quarantine rules and bubbles, but they should find a way.
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@oompb said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
Bok bevok.
Well done mate
Thoroughly deserved
@mikethesnow thanks Snowy. Hard luck to you lot. Everything was tough out there. Kolisi had his best tests. Crazy that Morne did it all over again like 12 years ago.
Kolbe is small but his rugby heart is bigger then Itoje.
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@nzzp said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
Australia in 4 yers will be interesting. Hopefully travelling supporters at last!
Yeah should be fun. Will try to get to a few games this time after doing Third Test and Tahs game last time
@nta said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@nzzp said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
Australia in 4 yers will be interesting. Hopefully travelling supporters at last!
Yeah should be fun. Will try to get to a few games this time after doing Third Test and Tahs game last time
Will be aiming to get down for it.
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Well done the Boks and enjoy the series win all you Saffer ferners.
Hats off to Finn Russell who played well and kept his flaky side firmly in the cupboard. Much will likely be made of the difference he brought to the Lions play but I feel that would be missing the point. Until he came on I counted the number of times the ball went past the first receiver and from memory it was once. Just once. That is not down to Biggar being unable to execute that sort of game, he’s shown time and time again he can. So clearly this continued one out drive followed by the inevitable kick was the game plan. Many will look at individual selection being the cause of both the style of play and the loss but the more expansive play with Russell was with the same guys that Biggar had round him. In truth the Lions, any of them, had the ability to play that game but were instructed otherwise.
Gatland and co were too conservative and inflexible. SA outcoached us as much as anything.
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Well done the Boks and enjoy the series win all you Saffer ferners.
Hats off to Finn Russell who played well and kept his flaky side firmly in the cupboard. Much will likely be made of the difference he brought to the Lions play but I feel that would be missing the point. Until he came on I counted the number of times the ball went past the first receiver and from memory it was once. Just once. That is not down to Biggar being unable to execute that sort of game, he’s shown time and time again he can. So clearly this continued one out drive followed by the inevitable kick was the game plan. Many will look at individual selection being the cause of both the style of play and the loss but the more expansive play with Russell was with the same guys that Biggar had round him. In truth the Lions, any of them, had the ability to play that game but were instructed otherwise.
Gatland and co were too conservative and inflexible. SA outcoached us as much as anything.
@catogrande Spot on
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Just watched the first half.
How is bok 8 not sitting down for 10 minutes? Charging into a breakdown, no bind, shoulder first, to a player on the ground.
@nta said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
Just watched the first half.
How is bok 8 not sitting down for 10 minutes? Charging into a breakdown, no bind, shoulder first, to a player on the ground.
If it's the same incident, the Ref & TMO looked at it and decided he was going under the Lions player to help clear the ruck.
Considerig the off-the-field bollocks, I thought the Refs did a pretty good job overall and Jonker was fine as TMO.
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I'm in a minority, but I enjoyed that game and the series. The rugby never reached great heights, but it was meaningful competition, and games we don't see often. I was happy with it.
Astonished teh try to Kolbe got awarded though - looked a clear knockon by the Bokke. Still, those 50/50 have defined the series - and arguably Boks were better all the way through.
Australia in 4 yers will be interesting. Hopefully travelling supporters at last!
@nzzp said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
I'm in a minority, but I enjoyed that game and the series. The rugby never reached great heights, but it was meaningful competition, and games we don't see often. I was happy with it.
It was series of two halves for me. The 1st Test and the 1st half of the 2nd were a bit ugh, but from that point on it seemed to come alive. There were some moments of really good rugby in the last game.
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
how is Gatland's coaching rep looking like now? Doesn't seem to have been a great year/season for him.
he is a really really good coach.
In terms of NZers I'd like to see coaching us, it'd be
Rennie
Robertson
Joseph/Brown/Gatland
Daylight
Foster@nzzp said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
how is Gatland's coaching rep looking like now? Doesn't seem to have been a great year/season for him.
he is a really really good coach.
In terms of NZers I'd like to see coaching us, it'd be
Rennie
Robertson
Joseph/Brown/Gatland
Daylight
FosterThat's a bit unfair on the Daylight bloke..
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That was like watching the best bird in the club being walked home by a munter because we were all too chicken shot to ask her to dance.
Spitting
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That was like watching the best bird in the club being walked home by a munter because we were all too chicken shot to ask her to dance.
Spitting
@mikethesnow said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
That was like watching the best bird in the club being walked home by a munter because we were all too chicken shot to ask her to dance.
Spitting
You ought to have all asked the second fittest.
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@mikethesnow said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
That was like watching the best bird in the club being walked home by a munter because we were all too chicken shot to ask her to dance.
Spitting
You ought to have all asked the second fittest.
@pakman said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@mikethesnow said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
That was like watching the best bird in the club being walked home by a munter because we were all too chicken shot to ask her to dance.
Spitting
You ought to have all asked the second fittest.
I was being kind
We weren’t allowed to ask her to dance because it was Munter Martin’s chance to be normal
And he fucking blew it
But coach was happy because Martin tried with coach’s game plan
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@nta said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
Just watched the first half.
How is bok 8 not sitting down for 10 minutes? Charging into a breakdown, no bind, shoulder first, to a player on the ground.
If it's the same incident, the Ref & TMO looked at it and decided he was going under the Lions player to help clear the ruck.
Considerig the off-the-field bollocks, I thought the Refs did a pretty good job overall and Jonker was fine as TMO.
@victor-meldrew said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
@nta said in Springboks v British & Irish Lions III:
Just watched the first half.
How is bok 8 not sitting down for 10 minutes? Charging into a breakdown, no bind, shoulder first, to a player on the ground.
If it's the same incident, the Ref & TMO looked at it and decided he was going under the Lions player to help clear the ruck.
Considerig the off-the-field bollock, I thought the Refs did a pretty good job overall and Jonker was fine as TMO.
Yeah they did. No idea how they reached that conclusion though. I'm not an expert on the rules, but he clearly smashed into Jones' back at speed, undoubtedly dangerous and surely not legal.
Jonker did fine considering. Not impressed with the refs on the whole, but they did have a tough job to do.
