All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Ten is so important, I don't think you can be a dilettante and be awesome.
What?
a Barrett who takes up an art, activity, or subject merely for amusement, especially in a desultory or superficial way; dabbler. a lover of an art or science, especially of a fine art. adjective. of or relating to dilettantes, or, plays for the Blues, professional Aucklander.
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Great to see an Aussie team with a guy called Len.
Funny to see people still going on about Jordie covering 12, or playing at 12, even though he's not and it's only going to happen in an emergency - I mean if there was ever a perfect chance for it to happen, it was last week - he got put on the wing. Did he even play 12 for the canes? Give it up....
Someone mentioned earlier about how we lost Kaino and should keep Ioane at 6. When I watch DP, he reminds me heeeeeeaps of Kaino. Don't see why he couldn't be 6...
At first glance, the bench backs are retarded, but not exactly any options I guess.
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We have 3 fullbacks, 2 wings and 2 halves in the backline. I don't think they're bad selections for this game, but I think they're a serious reflection on who NZR have invested in for the centres in the last few years. Yes we have Goodhue and ALB and Ennor in the wings, but 3 midfielders is nowhere close to enough depth.
Honestly, who else is up and coming? Quinn Tupaea? So why isn't he getting game time? There's literally no-one else - Aso and Laumape have been pushed overseas, and most of the other prospects are still at least 3 years off test level. Blues only have two true midfielders in their entire squad for goodness sake.
We get annoyed at the trend of playing 10s at 15, but I think the trend of playing outside backs in the midfield is worse tbh. It's no wonder our backline seems so much more clunky than it should - we're using finishers as distributers.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Ten is so important, I don't think you can be a dilettante and be awesome.
What?
a person who cultivates an area of interest, such as the arts, without real commitment or knowledge.
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@bones TSF cultivates?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@bones TSF cultivates?
I'll be honest, approximately half of your posts are a riddle to me.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@bones TSF cultivates?
Spreading manure is not cultivating.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
I actually don’t mind the team. Glad they kept the starting loose trio. Midfield makes sense given the ALB injury.
ABs by 20+.
Dmac at 15 and Ardie still at 8... I raise one finely chiselled eyebrow. Nah, make that two hairy caterpillars.
I don’t mind Ardie at 8. I’d prefer BB at 15 but given how much Foster likes DMac, it’s no surprise he is there.
I'd also swap BB or JB for DMac and just don't understand JB being on the bench with Dmac at 15. Sure he can cover wing, but I just don't think he's a proper utility player.
On the positive side, Foster seems to have decided on his top team and stopped the mucking around - 6/7/8 looked good last week as did DH/ALB. Pity ALB is injured as it means 12/13 are pretty much a rookie pairing. Hope DH doesn't have a shocker and blows his confidence.
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@delicatessen said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
We have 3 fullbacks, 2 wings and 2 halves in the backline. I don't think they're bad selections for this game, but I think they're a serious reflection on who NZR have invested in for the centres in the last few years. Yes we have Goodhue and ALB and Ennor in the wings, but 3 midfielders is nowhere close to enough depth.
Honestly, who else is up and coming? Quinn Tupaea? So why isn't he getting game time? There's literally no-one else - Aso and Laumape have been pushed overseas, and most of the other prospects are still at least 3 years off test level. Blues only have two true midfielders in their entire squad for goodness sake.
We get annoyed at the trend of playing 10s at 15, but I think the trend of playing outside backs in the midfield is worse tbh. It's no wonder our backline seems so much more clunky than it should - we're using finishers as distributers.
Spot on analysis.
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@delicatessen said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
We have 3 fullbacks, 2 wings and 2 halves in the backline. I don't think they're bad selections for this game, but I think they're a serious reflection on who NZR have invested in for the centres in the last few years. Yes we have Goodhue and ALB and Ennor in the wings, but 3 midfielders is nowhere close to enough depth.
Honestly, who else is up and coming? Quinn Tupaea? So why isn't he getting game time? There's literally no-one else - Aso and Laumape have been pushed overseas, and most of the other prospects are still at least 3 years off test level. Blues only have two true midfielders in their entire squad for goodness sake.
We get annoyed at the trend of playing 10s at 15, but I think the trend of playing outside backs in the midfield is worse tbh. It's no wonder our backline seems so much more clunky than it should - we're using finishers as distributers.
Havili is a genuine midfielder that can play fullback. I don’t mind our midfield stocks - ALB, Havili, Goodhue, Ennor, Ioane and then Tups. I think the Jordie Barrett at 12 is fantasy.
Jordan has played a bit of both fullback and wing, so I think even at this stage of his career he would be akin to where Howlett was when he made the ABs - mainly wing for Super rugby and some fullback at NPC level.
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@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
I drove 9 hours to sydney in 2014 to sit in the rain and watch the Allblacks draw with Wallabies 12 all in a shit game .
Made me think, if I had the option to jump in a car tonight, and drive somewhere to watch an ABs game and have a night out with mates, what's the line on kms I'd be prepared to travel?
Right now, I think I'd set the line at about 10,000kms.
I would drive that far to see Foster resign in the post match news conference
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@delicatessen said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
We have 3 fullbacks, 2 wings and 2 halves in the backline. I don't think they're bad selections for this game, but I think they're a serious reflection on who NZR have invested in for the centres in the last few years. Yes we have Goodhue and ALB and Ennor in the wings, but 3 midfielders is nowhere close to enough depth.
Honestly, who else is up and coming? Quinn Tupaea? So why isn't he getting game time? There's literally no-one else - Aso and Laumape have been pushed overseas, and most of the other prospects are still at least 3 years off test level. Blues only have two true midfielders in their entire squad for goodness sake.
We get annoyed at the trend of playing 10s at 15, but I think the trend of playing outside backs in the midfield is worse tbh. It's no wonder our backline seems so much more clunky than it should - we're using finishers as distributers.
Havili is a genuine midfielder that can play fullback. I don’t mind our midfield stocks - ALB, Havili, Goodhue, Ennor, Ioane and then Tups. I think the Jordie Barrett at 12 is fantasy.
Jordan has played a bit of both fullback and wing, so I think even at this stage of his career he would be akin to where Howlett was when he made the ABs - mainly wing for Super rugby and some fullback at NPC level.
I agree with all of this, except that when we need Ennor on the bench (which is this week), he is nowhere to be seen.
So we should have had extra 13 cover in the original squad or just not selected him.
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@delicatessen said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Honestly, who else is up and coming? Quinn Tupaea? So why isn't he getting game time?
I assume he's the 5th midfielder picked in the squad which will explain why he's not getting gametime in the big match? I think they see ALB, Goodhue, Havilli and Ioane definitely ahead of him currently, and for some reason probably Ennor too.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
@delicatessen said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
We have 3 fullbacks, 2 wings and 2 halves in the backline. I don't think they're bad selections for this game, but I think they're a serious reflection on who NZR have invested in for the centres in the last few years. Yes we have Goodhue and ALB and Ennor in the wings, but 3 midfielders is nowhere close to enough depth.
Honestly, who else is up and coming? Quinn Tupaea? So why isn't he getting game time? There's literally no-one else - Aso and Laumape have been pushed overseas, and most of the other prospects are still at least 3 years off test level. Blues only have two true midfielders in their entire squad for goodness sake.
We get annoyed at the trend of playing 10s at 15, but I think the trend of playing outside backs in the midfield is worse tbh. It's no wonder our backline seems so much more clunky than it should - we're using finishers as distributers.
Havili is a genuine midfielder that can play fullback. I don’t mind our midfield stocks - ALB, Havili, Goodhue, Ennor, Ioane and then Tups. I think the Jordie Barrett at 12 is fantasy.
Jordan has played a bit of both fullback and wing, so I think even at this stage of his career he would be akin to where Howlett was when he made the ABs - mainly wing for Super rugby and some fullback at NPC level.
He's had one good season (this one) in the midfield, but his best work has been at fullback over his career. I think it's still his best role.
I don't consider Ioane a part of our midfield stocks at all - he's clearly twice the player on the wing - why swap a world-class wing for a passable centre?
Agree re J Barrett and Jordan, although I think Jordan can excel at fullback at test level.
My main point though, is why haven't we nurtured our midfield stocks? Why turn away established midfielders in order to raid our outside back pantry? Yes we have a glut of great outside backs, but why dilute that by trying to change their natural game to suit midfielding?
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@delicatessen said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 2 Eden Park 14th Aug:
Yes we have a glut of great outside backs, but why dilute that by trying to change their natural game to suit midfielding?
getting 1999 PTSD reading this
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just an "overall state of the game" thought based on this match
27 penalties awarded
Not sure the ball-in-play stat, but isn't it usually around 35 minutes? That ratio sounds way off from a viewing perspective
