Aussie Pro Rugby
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@booboo said in Aussie Rugby:
Much of RC, Bled is outside the International release windows isn't it?
And this is he issue - if we let guys just go overseas, having no real idea what quarantine is going to be needed in future, and we have to let the clubs release them in their own good time.
It is a fucking pipe dream.
Hey yeah what about instead we remove the stupidity from our development systems so that the nation has a unified approach to talent identification, acquisition, and development?
Oh wait, that is too hard because of the multiple fucktards in positions of power across the board.
As someone said on Twitter after the loss: historically we've rarely been near the ABs, because of the way things are done here. Besides a short period of something approaching dominance, why are we so obsessed with this now?
Let's take the odd win and work on rebuilding the footings.
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@nta I've often said that I think Aussie rugby hamstrings itself by overly focusing on the ABS and the Bledisloe, most especially around marketing.
In a market that only loves a winner, building up year after year to a failure is counter-productive
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@nta I've often said that I think Aussie rugby hamstrings itself by overly focusing on the ABS and the Bledisloe, most especially around marketing.
In a market that only loves a winner, building up year after year to a failure is counter-productive
Yep but since around 1998 it is a staple.
Good thing civilisation will die in a fireball before we flunk out at the pool stage of RWC 2031.
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@mariner4life And yet i get slagged of as a moron and a surrender monkey for suggesting that maybe having three Bledisloe's in a row - two of which are at Eden Park - isn't the best idea ever.
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@derpus said in Aussie Rugby:
@mariner4life And yet i get slagged of as a moron and a surrender monkey for suggesting that maybe having three Bledisloe's in a row - two of which are at Eden Park - isn't the best idea ever.
It gets interpreted as "We shouldn't play NZ" which is also wrong.
Fact: we're to play the ABs at least twice a year in perpetuity. We might as well get used to the idea.
Has been an interesting convo with Ben Darwin on twitter this evening around the overseas selection thing. His basic point is this: it'll provide results for a few years, then the well runs dry.
Talent is one thing, combinations is another.
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I can see both sides of it, and I don't think there's a clear right or wrong answer.
On the one hand, the lure of NH cash is not going away. The players over there may not necessarily be our superstars, but there's a number that could conceivably play in our best XV. Particularly in positions we're currently thin - hooker and second row spring to mind.
Given the Wallabies are still the most important team in Australian rugby, if we can make them stronger then we should, and it's as simple as that.
However the potential impact on Super Rugby teams here could be significant. You don't want to turn local rugby into the A-League - a mix of youngsters and veterans all hoping to move overseas or retire.
I suspect RA will end up with a policy that is somewhere in between what we have now and 'open slather'. Allow the Wallaby coach to bring in 3-6 guys to sure up positions of need, while erring on the side of local players wherever possible.
And that doesn't preclude you from also doing all the things here in the meantime to widen the talent pool, work on our structures etc etc etc
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@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
I suspect RA will end up with a policy that is somewhere in between what we have now and 'open slather'. Allow the Wallaby coach to bring in 3-6 guys to sure up positions of need, while erring on the side of local players wherever possible.
Must avoid slippery slopes.
Best players versus best combinations is another argument, and also how much a broadcaster will pay for a competition stripped of its best talent.
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@nta said in Aussie Rugby:
@barbarian said in Aussie Rugby:
I suspect RA will end up with a policy that is somewhere in between what we have now and 'open slather'. Allow the Wallaby coach to bring in 3-6 guys to sure up positions of need, while erring on the side of local players wherever possible.
Must avoid slippery slopes.
Best players versus best combinations is another argument, and also how much a broadcaster will pay for a competition stripped of its best talent.
But RA still has money to offer pretty good salaries to top tier talent. But also you balance that against (hopefully) a more successful Wallaby side, so I'm not sure it would result in a huge drop in TV revenue.
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Meanwhile NSW meekly hands over the West to AFL, league and soccer.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
Meanwhile NSW meekly hands over the West to AFL, league and soccer.
meekly? From what i read it's more "happily"
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
Meanwhile NSW meekly hands over the West to AFL, league and soccer.
meekly? From what i read it's more "happily"
No no, they're extremely concerned about Western Sydney.
After all, if rugby west of the A3 disappears, and league takes all the juniors, where the fuck are Eastern Suburbs clubs going to plunder talent?
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby:
@nta said in Aussie Rugby:
All winter sports are officially gone as of today.
that's heartbreaking
Across the board, it is just poo.
On a personal note: Renegades were threatening in all 3 Grades - first time we would have appeared in finals for 7 years.
Now looking at options to use our ground once lockdown lifts to generate a bit of cash to ramp up for next year. Decent lights, pristine surface. Should be able to get a few teams over for an evening 7s tournament for mens or womens.
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If ever you could sum up a team with one photo
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@mariner4life I genuinely don't understand people that don't want him in the Wallabies. It's the surest way for Australians to demonstrate to me they know fuck all about the game or are partisan clowns.
