NRL 2021
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
@mariner4life said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
Unlikely to even finish 9th..barely fumbled to a win today. Still could screw a few other teams but we are just not good enough this year, injuries don't help obviously
There are like 4 good teams in the whole comp, everyone else is varying shades of ordinary.
So i wouldn't be shocked to see us finish 9th. I mean, a record of 9-12 gets you a finals spot FFS
Also the most important bone in the whole comp is Tommy Turbo's cheek this week. Either it's fine, or Manly are fucked.
that last part is 100% accurate.
I know we have a better run in than a lot of teams, but I dont even think we beat the resurgent broncs this week not gold coast later. I am not talking about other teams ability to fall over either as youre right outside top four not much happening, but I suspect for warriors although possible, not probable
look, for the 2nd season running, they are turning up week after week despite living in fucking Australia, and i am not sure they are getting enough credit for that. Add in 3 wins on the bounce (always knew RTS was holding us back) and there is a lot of credit to come out of this year.
You are right, we're as likely to come 12th as 9th, but they are putting in a shift, and at times playing some decent football.
A running dummy half, a grade-standard halfback, and one quick centre and i reckon we are in business. A hard, quick, ball-playing middle forward wouldn't go amiss either.
I personally do think they get the credit, but they lost their way in the middle regardless of injuries this year and lost games too many games they should have won, which is on them..
To be honest, I think the bulk of our recruitment has been solid. If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3. That leaves Curran, BMM, Bailey and Kotoa to rotate the edges. We have a running dummy half (albeit a kid, Taniela otukolo), but he is also too green at this stage and injured. Keeping everyone fit and out of judiciary is key. I do worry CHT goes too hard in defence for his shoulders and partnered with the hammy king next year, keeping two fit halves on the field will be impossible. Luckiliy the buy of the year Reece Walsh could fit there although Brown has been reluctant to do it. Anyway if we finish 8 or 9, I will be happy but they should not forgive themselves or forget that St George match which was the epitome of league hopelessness.@bayimports that bitter drunk Buzz Rothfield tried to say the Warriors have it easy because they are staying in a resort. Who wouldn't love that?
fuck i can't stand those NRL360 jerkoffs.
There is the making of a good team there you are right. Need to play with more tempo and dare i say it, drop a few more balls trying to create linebreaks. A high completion percentage doesn't mean much these days (did i hear yesterday the Bulldogs have the best stat in the comp for it?) you need to be challenging the defence all game.
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@mariner4life said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
@mariner4life said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
Unlikely to even finish 9th..barely fumbled to a win today. Still could screw a few other teams but we are just not good enough this year, injuries don't help obviously
There are like 4 good teams in the whole comp, everyone else is varying shades of ordinary.
So i wouldn't be shocked to see us finish 9th. I mean, a record of 9-12 gets you a finals spot FFS
Also the most important bone in the whole comp is Tommy Turbo's cheek this week. Either it's fine, or Manly are fucked.
that last part is 100% accurate.
I know we have a better run in than a lot of teams, but I dont even think we beat the resurgent broncs this week not gold coast later. I am not talking about other teams ability to fall over either as youre right outside top four not much happening, but I suspect for warriors although possible, not probable
look, for the 2nd season running, they are turning up week after week despite living in fucking Australia, and i am not sure they are getting enough credit for that. Add in 3 wins on the bounce (always knew RTS was holding us back) and there is a lot of credit to come out of this year.
You are right, we're as likely to come 12th as 9th, but they are putting in a shift, and at times playing some decent football.
A running dummy half, a grade-standard halfback, and one quick centre and i reckon we are in business. A hard, quick, ball-playing middle forward wouldn't go amiss either.
I personally do think they get the credit, but they lost their way in the middle regardless of injuries this year and lost games too many games they should have won, which is on them..
To be honest, I think the bulk of our recruitment has been solid. If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3. That leaves Curran, BMM, Bailey and Kotoa to rotate the edges. We have a running dummy half (albeit a kid, Taniela otukolo), but he is also too green at this stage and injured. Keeping everyone fit and out of judiciary is key. I do worry CHT goes too hard in defence for his shoulders and partnered with the hammy king next year, keeping two fit halves on the field will be impossible. Luckiliy the buy of the year Reece Walsh could fit there although Brown has been reluctant to do it. Anyway if we finish 8 or 9, I will be happy but they should not forgive themselves or forget that St George match which was the epitome of league hopelessness.@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3.
I desperately wanted to dislike Lodge when they signed him given his past conduct. However, had a bit of a read about him and it looks like he has tried real hard to atone for the America incident.
He's the type of prop we need in our team. Reliable, hard running and a good head on him. Sometimes a bit prone to pushing too hard for an offload, but otherwise I think he's been our second-best buy in recent years behind Walsh.
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@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3.
I desperately wanted to dislike Lodge when they signed him given his past conduct. However, had a bit of a read about him and it looks like he has tried real hard to atone for the America incident.
He's the type of prop we need in our team. Reliable, hard running and a good head on him. Sometimes a bit prone to pushing too hard for an offload, but otherwise I think he's been our second-best buy in recent years behind Walsh.
@aucklandwarlord said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3.
I desperately wanted to dislike Lodge when they signed him given his past conduct. However, had a bit of a read about him and it looks like he has tried real hard to atone for the America incident.
He's the type of prop we need in our team. Reliable, hard running and a good head on him. Sometimes a bit prone to pushing too hard for an offload, but otherwise I think he's been our second-best buy in recent years behind Walsh.
@aucklandwarlord Lodge can play 60 minutes every game in the front row and offloads, he has a massive engine for a prop. One game even went 80 with injuries. I tried to dislike him too, but efforts on the field have been more than solid. i even find that he is often in judiciary for BS (historical bias), more than significant issues.
@mariner4life buzz just needs to retire, the guy is a joke (mind you the core of that NRL360 is), although they generate a lot of story lines in the media which rugby could learn a thing or two from.
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@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3.
I desperately wanted to dislike Lodge when they signed him given his past conduct. However, had a bit of a read about him and it looks like he has tried real hard to atone for the America incident.
He's the type of prop we need in our team. Reliable, hard running and a good head on him. Sometimes a bit prone to pushing too hard for an offload, but otherwise I think he's been our second-best buy in recent years behind Walsh.
@aucklandwarlord said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3.
I desperately wanted to dislike Lodge when they signed him given his past conduct. However, had a bit of a read about him and it looks like he has tried real hard to atone for the America incident.
He's the type of prop we need in our team. Reliable, hard running and a good head on him. Sometimes a bit prone to pushing too hard for an offload, but otherwise I think he's been our second-best buy in recent years behind Walsh.
Where do you put the signing of Fonua-Blake if Lodge and Walsh are your top two signings? To me he's better than Lodge and Walsh, although he's on a bit more money.
The big man had another big game yesterday with 212m(102m post contact) and 31 tackles. We haven't seen those sort of numbers from a Warriors prop since Steve Price.
Aitken and Montoya are two other recent recruits that are starting to the look the goods.
Curran is not really a recent signing, but he's come of age this season.
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@aucklandwarlord said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3.
I desperately wanted to dislike Lodge when they signed him given his past conduct. However, had a bit of a read about him and it looks like he has tried real hard to atone for the America incident.
He's the type of prop we need in our team. Reliable, hard running and a good head on him. Sometimes a bit prone to pushing too hard for an offload, but otherwise I think he's been our second-best buy in recent years behind Walsh.
Where do you put the signing of Fonua-Blake if Lodge and Walsh are your top two signings? To me he's better than Lodge and Walsh, although he's on a bit more money.
The big man had another big game yesterday with 212m(102m post contact) and 31 tackles. We haven't seen those sort of numbers from a Warriors prop since Steve Price.
Aitken and Montoya are two other recent recruits that are starting to the look the goods.
Curran is not really a recent signing, but he's come of age this season.
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@aucklandwarlord said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3.
I desperately wanted to dislike Lodge when they signed him given his past conduct. However, had a bit of a read about him and it looks like he has tried real hard to atone for the America incident.
He's the type of prop we need in our team. Reliable, hard running and a good head on him. Sometimes a bit prone to pushing too hard for an offload, but otherwise I think he's been our second-best buy in recent years behind Walsh.
Where do you put the signing of Fonua-Blake if Lodge and Walsh are your top two signings? To me he's better than Lodge and Walsh, although he's on a bit more money.
The big man had another big game yesterday with 212m(102m post contact) and 31 tackles. We haven't seen those sort of numbers from a Warriors prop since Steve Price.
Aitken and Montoya are two other recent recruits that are starting to the look the goods.
Curran is not really a recent signing, but he's come of age this season.
@aucklandwarlord said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3.
I desperately wanted to dislike Lodge when they signed him given his past conduct. However, had a bit of a read about him and it looks like he has tried real hard to atone for the America incident.
He's the type of prop we need in our team. Reliable, hard running and a good head on him. Sometimes a bit prone to pushing too hard for an offload, but otherwise I think he's been our second-best buy in recent years behind Walsh.
Where do you put the signing of Fonua-Blake if Lodge and Walsh are your top two signings? To me he's better than Lodge and Walsh, although he's on a bit more money.
The big man had another big game yesterday with 212m(102m post contact) and 31 tackles. We haven't seen those sort of numbers from a Warriors prop since Steve Price.
Aitken and Montya are two other recent recruits that are starting to the look the goods too.
Curran is not really a recent signing, but he's come of age this season.
Based solely on value for money for what we paid, I'd put him below those two. I think we've got Walsh for 400k a year on average and I know the Broncos are paying a sizeable chunk of Lodge's salary.
I think Walsh has the potential to continue to get exponentially better as he ages, and we've seen it already this season.
If you took salary out of it, AFB would sit above both, but given the salary cap is such an omnipresent restriction, I tend to judge signings based on what we pay for them.
Interesting you mention Steve Price re the metres because I understand there used to be rumblings about him monopolising all the easy metres (kick off return etc) to falsely inflate his stats. 102 metres after contact is a great stat line.
I like Montoya too - he's not flashy but is very consistent.
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@aucklandwarlord said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3.
I desperately wanted to dislike Lodge when they signed him given his past conduct. However, had a bit of a read about him and it looks like he has tried real hard to atone for the America incident.
He's the type of prop we need in our team. Reliable, hard running and a good head on him. Sometimes a bit prone to pushing too hard for an offload, but otherwise I think he's been our second-best buy in recent years behind Walsh.
Where do you put the signing of Fonua-Blake if Lodge and Walsh are your top two signings? To me he's better than Lodge and Walsh, although he's on a bit more money.
The big man had another big game yesterday with 212m(102m post contact) and 31 tackles. We haven't seen those sort of numbers from a Warriors prop since Steve Price.
Aitken and Montya are two other recent recruits that are starting to the look the goods too.
Curran is not really a recent signing, but he's come of age this season.
Based solely on value for money for what we paid, I'd put him below those two. I think we've got Walsh for 400k a year on average and I know the Broncos are paying a sizeable chunk of Lodge's salary.
I think Walsh has the potential to continue to get exponentially better as he ages, and we've seen it already this season.
If you took salary out of it, AFB would sit above both, but given the salary cap is such an omnipresent restriction, I tend to judge signings based on what we pay for them.
Interesting you mention Steve Price re the metres because I understand there used to be rumblings about him monopolising all the easy metres (kick off return etc) to falsely inflate his stats. 102 metres after contact is a great stat line.
I like Montoya too - he's not flashy but is very consistent.
@aucklandwarlord said in NRL 2021:
@aucklandwarlord said in NRL 2021:
@bayimports said in NRL 2021:
If Lodge, AFB and Tohu stay on the park, then thats a pretty good starting middle 3.
I desperately wanted to dislike Lodge when they signed him given his past conduct. However, had a bit of a read about him and it looks like he has tried real hard to atone for the America incident.
He's the type of prop we need in our team. Reliable, hard running and a good head on him. Sometimes a bit prone to pushing too hard for an offload, but otherwise I think he's been our second-best buy in recent years behind Walsh.
Where do you put the signing of Fonua-Blake if Lodge and Walsh are your top two signings? To me he's better than Lodge and Walsh, although he's on a bit more money.
The big man had another big game yesterday with 212m(102m post contact) and 31 tackles. We haven't seen those sort of numbers from a Warriors prop since Steve Price.
Aitken and Montya are two other recent recruits that are starting to the look the goods too.
Curran is not really a recent signing, but he's come of age this season.
Based solely on value for money for what we paid, I'd put him below those two. I think we've got Walsh for 400k a year on average and I know the Broncos are paying a sizeable chunk of Lodge's salary.
I think Walsh has the potential to continue to get exponentially better as he ages, and we've seen it already this season.
If you took salary out of it, AFB would sit above both, but given the salary cap is such an omnipresent restriction, I tend to judge signings based on what we pay for them.
Interesting you mention Steve Price re the metres because I understand there used to be rumblings about him monopolising all the easy metres (kick off return etc) to falsely inflate his stats. 102 metres after contact is a great stat line.
I like Montoya too - he's not flashy but is very consistent.
All good points. Actually regarding Curran there were massive wraps on him at the Roosters (they were nto happy to see him go), took a while to find his feet here, whether thats coaching, opportunities or just not living up to his hype previously, but he has had a huge year.
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@donsteppa WTF! He's dropkick, but hope he's ok.
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Wasn't there a member of the very early Warriors squad (circa 1995) who died from a similar injury? Surprised throat injuries aren't more common in rugby and league, given the high impact of both sports.
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shocking news about Fifita, those injuries are always a risk with the front on, upright nature of RL. I am actually shocked they don't happen more often.
In other, far less serious news
It appears Jimmy Maloney, super pest, king grub, and serial winner is retiring. Team mates all over the world are breathing a sigh of relief.
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Still early, but Storm down 10 - 0 to the Titans.
Storm will probably win in the end, but they've been a bit off for about a month now.
Still early, but Storm down 10 - 0 to the Titans.
Storm will probably win in the end, but they've been a bit off for about a month now.
Storm down on a lot of usual starters, seemingly at the end of a heavy training load, playing the backup fullback at halfback, and the Titans were up an about. Upset definitely on the cards
aaaaaand the storm take care of them easy.
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Still early, but Storm down 10 - 0 to the Titans.
Storm will probably win in the end, but they've been a bit off for about a month now.
Storm down on a lot of usual starters, seemingly at the end of a heavy training load, playing the backup fullback at halfback, and the Titans were up an about. Upset definitely on the cards
aaaaaand the storm take care of them easy.
@mariner4life 19 wins in a row. Pretty incredible.
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I hardly follow league, so don't know who he is, but this is funny!
https://twitter.com/RNEditss/status/1403941206497763328
Here's the letter, so you don't have to click on the tweet:
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@Stargazer Brandon Smith is Waiheke Island's finest export.
@Stargazer Brandon Smith is Waiheke Island's finest export.
So NZ poached him too!
