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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    Wow that was pretty gutless by England. Not even two sessions. Even the 90s black caps would have been ashamed of that.

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    • CyclopsC Cyclops

      Wow that was pretty gutless by England. Not even two sessions. Even the 90s black caps would have been ashamed of that.

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      @cyclops said in Other Cricket:

      Wow that was pretty gutless by England. Not even two sessions. Even the 90s black caps would have been ashamed of that.

      Would they though? We were rough as guts

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        @cyclops said in Other Cricket:

        Wow that was pretty gutless by England. Not even two sessions. Even the 90s black caps would have been ashamed of that.

        Would they though? We were rough as guts

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        @hooroo said in Other Cricket:

        @cyclops said in Other Cricket:

        Wow that was pretty gutless by England. Not even two sessions. Even the 90s black caps would have been ashamed of that.

        Would they though? We were rough as guts

        on a day 5 pitch, with quality fast bowling operating.... don't be too sure we'd do better.

        I'll just leave this here
        https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/pakistan-tour-of-new-zealand-1992-93-61505/new-zealand-vs-pakistan-only-test-63597/full-scorecard

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @hooroo said in Other Cricket:

          @cyclops said in Other Cricket:

          Wow that was pretty gutless by England. Not even two sessions. Even the 90s black caps would have been ashamed of that.

          Would they though? We were rough as guts

          on a day 5 pitch, with quality fast bowling operating.... don't be too sure we'd do better.

          I'll just leave this here
          https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/pakistan-tour-of-new-zealand-1992-93-61505/new-zealand-vs-pakistan-only-test-63597/full-scorecard

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          @nzzp That's what I'm saying. That 90's dross was very comparable to what England did. Only with less centuries, usually. 🙂

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            @nzzp That's what I'm saying. That 90's dross was very comparable to what England did. Only with less centuries, usually. 🙂

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            @hooroo said in Other Cricket:

            @nzzp That's what I'm saying. That 90's dross was very comparable to what England did. Only with less centuries, usually. 🙂

            I agreed- but should have @Cyclops tagged as we disagree with him!

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @hooroo said in Other Cricket:

              @cyclops said in Other Cricket:

              Wow that was pretty gutless by England. Not even two sessions. Even the 90s black caps would have been ashamed of that.

              Would they though? We were rough as guts

              on a day 5 pitch, with quality fast bowling operating.... don't be too sure we'd do better.

              I'll just leave this here
              https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/pakistan-tour-of-new-zealand-1992-93-61505/new-zealand-vs-pakistan-only-test-63597/full-scorecard

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              #700

              @nzzp said in Other Cricket:

              @hooroo said in Other Cricket:

              @cyclops said in Other Cricket:

              Wow that was pretty gutless by England. Not even two sessions. Even the 90s black caps would have been ashamed of that.

              Would they though? We were rough as guts

              on a day 5 pitch, with quality fast bowling operating.... don't be too sure we'd do better.

              I'll just leave this here
              https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/pakistan-tour-of-new-zealand-1992-93-61505/new-zealand-vs-pakistan-only-test-63597/full-scorecard

              Andrew Jones was the only guy in that bunch with a very good test batting record, better than any Englishman bar Root who stands out in that lineup likes dogs balls, but both supported by five pretty ordinary players……and Wasim and Waqar were one of the all time great duos ( in fact possibly THE very best ? )

              So yeah, overall England should be absolutely ashamed of their efforts. More so than the BCs of that era.

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                #701

                @Cyclops
                Remember when McGrath and Gillespie sort of did to us with the bat what Bumrah and Sami just did to England with the bat?

                Well, we also didn't last 2 sessions or in fact even make a hundred. 71 all out.

                But, I guess your point stands, They would have been ashamed of that.

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                • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                  @catogrande What happened - 8 down with a lead of only 180, England had that game in their hands. Although take Root out of that batting order and they will lose every game at the moment.

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                  @kiwipie said in Other Cricket:

                  @catogrande What happened - 8 down with a lead of only 180, England had that game in their hands. Although take Root out of that batting order and they will lose every game at the moment.

                  Newish ball, England on a roll, fast bowlers on v tail enders. So what’s the plan?

                  No slips, bowl short, few fielders in wicket taking positions, so the plan must have been to leak a few runs, release the pressure and give them some confidence. If those tactics had been employed by Pakistan in those circumstances we’d be thinking match fixing.

                  Appalling captaincy.

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    @Cyclops
                    Remember when McGrath and Gillespie sort of did to us with the bat what Bumrah and Sami just did to England with the bat?

                    Well, we also didn't last 2 sessions or in fact even make a hundred. 71 all out.

                    But, I guess your point stands, They would have been ashamed of that.

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                    @rapido said in Other Cricket:

                    @Cyclops
                    Remember when McGrath and Gillespie sort of did to us with the bat what Bumrah and Sami just did to England with the bat?

                    Well, we also didn't last 2 sessions or in fact even make a hundred. 71 all out.

                    But, I guess your point stands, They would have been ashamed of that.

                    Yeah there are a couple of moments of utter ignominy but that's kind of the point. This is about low as a test team can go without getting bowled out for 26.

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                      #704

                      That day goes to show how bloody impressive that sixth day in the WTC from the Black Caps was. Similarly poised in similar conditions and they bottled it.

                      Yes England's batting is a bit of a rabble but it was their bowling that blew it in one mad session.

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                        it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                        They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                        There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                        Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                          They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                          There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                          Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

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                          #706

                          @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                          it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                          They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                          There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                          Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

                          I’m sure they’ll redeem themselves ( assuming it goes ahead ) by putting a fucken awful English side to the sword later this year.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                            it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                            They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                            There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                            Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

                            I’m sure they’ll redeem themselves ( assuming it goes ahead ) by putting a fucken awful English side to the sword later this year.

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                            #707

                            @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                            @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                            it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                            They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                            There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                            Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

                            I’m sure they’ll redeem themselves ( assuming it goes ahead ) by putting a fucken awful English side to the sword later this year.

                            like clockwork, things go wrong over winter when they head overseas, but magically heal themselves when they get back on the flat flat tracks of home

                            their major problem is their last home series they lost quite badly.

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                              @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                              it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                              They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                              There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                              Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

                              I’m sure they’ll redeem themselves ( assuming it goes ahead ) by putting a fucken awful English side to the sword later this year.

                              like clockwork, things go wrong over winter when they head overseas, but magically heal themselves when they get back on the flat flat tracks of home

                              their major problem is their last home series they lost quite badly.

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                              MN5
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                              #708

                              @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                              @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                              @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                              it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                              They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                              There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                              Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

                              I’m sure they’ll redeem themselves ( assuming it goes ahead ) by putting a fucken awful English side to the sword later this year.

                              like clockwork, things go wrong over winter when they head overseas, but magically heal themselves when they get back on the flat flat tracks of home

                              their major problem is their last home series they lost quite badly.

                              I think they’d beat that Pom team anywhere to be fair. That batting line up in particularly screams ordinary despite one obvious exception ( who isn’t even quite as good as our Kane )

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                                @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                                They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                                There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                                Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

                                I’m sure they’ll redeem themselves ( assuming it goes ahead ) by putting a fucken awful English side to the sword later this year.

                                like clockwork, things go wrong over winter when they head overseas, but magically heal themselves when they get back on the flat flat tracks of home

                                their major problem is their last home series they lost quite badly.

                                I think they’d beat that Pom team anywhere to be fair. That batting line up in particularly screams ordinary despite one obvious exception ( who isn’t even quite as good as our Kane )

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                                #709

                                @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                                @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                                @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                                They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                                There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                                Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

                                I’m sure they’ll redeem themselves ( assuming it goes ahead ) by putting a fucken awful English side to the sword later this year.

                                like clockwork, things go wrong over winter when they head overseas, but magically heal themselves when they get back on the flat flat tracks of home

                                their major problem is their last home series they lost quite badly.

                                I think they’d beat that Pom team anywhere to be fair. That batting line up in particularly screams ordinary despite one obvious exception ( who isn’t even quite as good as our Kane )

                                yeah that series should be a bloodbath. But the Aussie order ain't that great either. I just think Cummins, Hazlewood, Starc and Lyon will take the required number of wickets to make it comfortable.

                                Smith will get runs, and enough other guys will score along the way to get more than enough

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                                  @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                  @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                                  @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                  it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                                  They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                                  There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                                  Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

                                  I’m sure they’ll redeem themselves ( assuming it goes ahead ) by putting a fucken awful English side to the sword later this year.

                                  like clockwork, things go wrong over winter when they head overseas, but magically heal themselves when they get back on the flat flat tracks of home

                                  their major problem is their last home series they lost quite badly.

                                  I think they’d beat that Pom team anywhere to be fair. That batting line up in particularly screams ordinary despite one obvious exception ( who isn’t even quite as good as our Kane )

                                  yeah that series should be a bloodbath. But the Aussie order ain't that great either. I just think Cummins, Hazlewood, Starc and Lyon will take the required number of wickets to make it comfortable.

                                  Smith will get runs, and enough other guys will score along the way to get more than enough

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                                  MN5M Online
                                  MN5
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                                  #710

                                  @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                  @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                                  @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                  @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                                  @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                                  it's getting very very messy in Australian cricket

                                  They aren't doing to well, and so the coach is in the gun, most especially because it appears the modern player cannot relate to being given a few home truths about their performance.

                                  There is a definite split appearing in the Aus cricket family, with the new guys on one side, and pretty much everyone else on the other.

                                  Cricket Australia have given Langer their dreaded full confidence.

                                  I’m sure they’ll redeem themselves ( assuming it goes ahead ) by putting a fucken awful English side to the sword later this year.

                                  like clockwork, things go wrong over winter when they head overseas, but magically heal themselves when they get back on the flat flat tracks of home

                                  their major problem is their last home series they lost quite badly.

                                  I think they’d beat that Pom team anywhere to be fair. That batting line up in particularly screams ordinary despite one obvious exception ( who isn’t even quite as good as our Kane )

                                  yeah that series should be a bloodbath. But the Aussie order ain't that great either. I just think Cummins, Hazlewood, Starc and Lyon will take the required number of wickets to make it comfortable.

                                  Smith will get runs, and enough other guys will score along the way to get more than enough

                                  The others guys include Labuschagne and Warner, Root certainly doesn’t have a supporting cast like that.

                                  His strike bowlers are fucken ancient too.

                                  Australia have a few journeymen too but England are full of them.

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                                  • D Online
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                                    delicatessen
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                                    #711

                                    How the hell are our guys doing in the Hundred? Haven't seen anything recently, which makes me think they're not doing great.

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                                      Glamorgan win the 1-day Cup

                                      Get in

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                                      • D delicatessen

                                        How the hell are our guys doing in the Hundred? Haven't seen anything recently, which makes me think they're not doing great.

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                                        @delicatessen said in Other Cricket:

                                        How the hell are our guys doing in the Hundred? Haven't seen anything recently, which makes me think they're not doing great.

                                        Some of the Kiwis did perform.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/126121915/black-caps-batsman-glenn-phillips-signs-off-england-stint-with-matchwinning-knock

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @delicatessen said in Other Cricket:

                                          How the hell are our guys doing in the Hundred? Haven't seen anything recently, which makes me think they're not doing great.

                                          Some of the Kiwis did perform.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/126121915/black-caps-batsman-glenn-phillips-signs-off-england-stint-with-matchwinning-knock

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                                          delicatessen
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                                          @bovidae said in Other Cricket:

                                          @delicatessen said in Other Cricket:

                                          How the hell are our guys doing in the Hundred? Haven't seen anything recently, which makes me think they're not doing great.

                                          Some of the Kiwis did perform.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/126121915/black-caps-batsman-glenn-phillips-signs-off-england-stint-with-matchwinning-knock

                                          Oh righto thanks. Missed that 'un I did.

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