AFL 2021
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Meanwhile, Port give Geelong a rogering in their qualifying final. I only saw the second quarter which as it turned out was the winning of the game as PA pulled away decisively and their rabid fans put on even more of a show. Bloody entertaining.
They'd have to be the second roughest group of fans after Collingwood (and I'm not forgetting about Dogs fans here either). I don't say that just because of the crowd behaviour. I dated a girl in Melbourne who was a Port girl through and through, even having connections to Warren Tredrea. She was hot but a massive bogan at heart. Plus I think the club represents some fairly socio economically challenged areas of Adelaide, such as Port Adelaide itself, and Elizabeth / South Elizabeth. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
Meanwhile, Port give Geelong a rogering in their qualifying final. I only saw the second quarter which as it turned out was the winning of the game as PA pulled away decisively and their rabid fans put on even more of a show. Bloody entertaining.
They'd have to be the second roughest group of fans after Collingwood (and I'm not forgetting about Dogs fans here either). I don't say that just because of the crowd behaviour. I dated a girl in Melbourne who was a Port girl through and through, even having connections to Warren Tredrea. She was hot but a massive bogan at heart. Plus I think the club represents some fairly socio economically challenged areas of Adelaide, such as Port Adelaide itself, and Elizabeth / South Elizabeth. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
And Kochie
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A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
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A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
Just have this feeling about the Giants that they're artificial so find it difficult to support them.
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A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
Ditto
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@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
Just have this feeling about the Giants that they're artificial so find it difficult to support them.
@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
Just have this feeling about the Giants that they're artificial so find it difficult to support them.
I quite like their style. Can’t stand Greene but he is a damn good player.
In terms of their artificialness, I guess any expansion team is going to seem like that when they’re in the same comp as teams that have been around since the 1800’s….
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Really gutted….was banking on the AFL giving me something to get behind during lockdown…
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@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
Just have this feeling about the Giants that they're artificial so find it difficult to support them.
I quite like their style. Can’t stand Greene but he is a damn good player.
In terms of their artificialness, I guess any expansion team is going to seem like that when they’re in the same comp as teams that have been around since the 1800’s….
@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
Just have this feeling about the Giants that they're artificial so find it difficult to support them.
I quite like their style. Can’t stand Greene but he is a damn good player.
In terms of their artificialness, I guess any expansion team is going to seem like that when they’re in the same comp as teams that have been around since the 1800’s….
Nobody says that about the lions/bears/Footscray any more
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A slight worry how difficult it's been to get inside 50 the last two quarters. But we've kicked a couple late-ish which was enough, and the Lions have made inside 50s look almost impossible. Credit to our D. Also a lot of unconverted snaps and set shots: 13.14 isn't ideal.
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@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
Just have this feeling about the Giants that they're artificial so find it difficult to support them.
I quite like their style. Can’t stand Greene but he is a damn good player.
In terms of their artificialness, I guess any expansion team is going to seem like that when they’re in the same comp as teams that have been around since the 1800’s….
Nobody says that about the lions/bears/Footscray any more
@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
Just have this feeling about the Giants that they're artificial so find it difficult to support them.
I quite like their style. Can’t stand Greene but he is a damn good player.
In terms of their artificialness, I guess any expansion team is going to seem like that when they’re in the same comp as teams that have been around since the 1800’s….
Nobody says that about the lions/bears/
FootscrayFitzroy any moreBrisbane were at least a relocation team from Fitzroy, so there was some history there albeit tenuous.
Same with Swans.
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Too good @shark well done to your boys
We're close, we just need that elite game breaker
And a more ruthless coach. Hi Clarko flutters eyelashes
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@mariner4life Maybe another key forward / half forward with some height. I don't think losing McStay was the difference; he would have needed more help. Why was Daniher so rarely forward??
Will be some funky match ups next week.
@mariner4life Maybe another key forward / half forward with some height. I don't think losing McStay was the difference; he would have needed more help. Why was Daniher so rarely forward??
Will be some funky match ups next week.
Hipwood and Rayner being available makes us a very different prospect
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@act-crusader said in AFL 2021:
A huge game next week between Giants and Geelong. Can’t stand Geelong even though I was a huge fan of both Ablett’s. Would love to see them go out in straight sets (again) under Chris Scott.
Giants are a bit Jekyll and Hyde, so hopefully they bring the heat.
Just have this feeling about the Giants that they're artificial so find it difficult to support them.
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I listened to a bit of SEN Victoria this morning. They chatted with the Tasmanian premiere about the business case for a 19th team based in Tassie. I haven't caught up with this beyond some idle Fern chat so didn't know things were this advanced. Presumably this has been put to the AFL? And it's not a relocation situation if it's a 19th team.
He was saying they'd be Hobart-based but play their blockbuster games in Launceston due to the greater capacity and the rest at Blundstone, but they'd also look to invest in both stadiums to increase capacities. Fascinating. But I can't imagine the state's largest metro base being happy with that arrangement. Secondly, how would the players feel about having to make a two hour drive to half their home games on top of away games? Effectively 3/4 of their games would involve travel. Yes I know the WA sides have long flights to endure but at least home games and a derby or two are comparatively restful. The Victorian teams would only be 30 mins or so in the air to get there while the Tassie team has a two hour roadie.
Sounds like the prem has been making contact with club executives to gauge and engender support, explain the financial benefits of including a Tasmanian side.
I love this kinda shit.
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@booboo do you mean artificial purely in terms of them being an expansion team? Or because they're an expansion team without a club history ala Adelaide and West Coast also?
@booboo do you mean artificial purely in terms of them being an expansion team? Or because they're an expansion team without a club history ala Adelaide and West Coast also?
Without any sort of history in the sport. They're trying to invent a fan base with no history just to try and tap into a non committed population.
West Coast and Adelaide basically had an immediate million strong fan base. A team in Tassie would be similar.
It reminds me of say the Warriors, where there was a real and long history of support for the sport vs. Adelaide Rams and Western Reds.
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@booboo do you mean artificial purely in terms of them being an expansion team? Or because they're an expansion team without a club history ala Adelaide and West Coast also?
Without any sort of history in the sport. They're trying to invent a fan base with no history just to try and tap into a non committed population.
West Coast and Adelaide basically had an immediate million strong fan base. A team in Tassie would be similar.
It reminds me of say the Warriors, where there was a real and long history of support for the sport vs. Adelaide Rams and Western Reds.
@booboo that's somewhat fair. However Tasmania's population is only 500k. Greater Sydney's is 5m and NSW a little over 8m, with a large amount of AFL fans among them. The Swans' average attendance in the last non-Covid affected season - 2019 - was 31k, and GWS 25K. Before you say they're all opposition fans, the Swans 2021 membership was over 50k, which is more than North and the Bulldogs and almost as many as the Dees. The Giants already have 30k. It makes absolute sense to have a second team in Sydney as the support base is 100% there.
I'd say the Giants are more organic than artificial.
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@booboo that's somewhat fair. However Tasmania's population is only 500k. Greater Sydney's is 5m and NSW a little over 8m, with a large amount of AFL fans among them. The Swans' average attendance in the last non-Covid affected season - 2019 - was 31k, and GWS 25K. Before you say they're all opposition fans, the Swans 2021 membership was over 50k, which is more than North and the Bulldogs and almost as many as the Dees. The Giants already have 30k. It makes absolute sense to have a second team in Sydney as the support base is 100% there.
I'd say the Giants are more organic than artificial.
@shark agree. I never thought GWS was a problem or bad idea given the economics made sense and more importantly the football history was there in western Sydney and more broadly NSW.
The Suns was always the more risky and ‘artificial’ one for me. It made for a great announcement “team on the Gold Coast, come up for some sun in winter and catch a live AFL match” - but there was really no connection there. Most kids on the coast play league first, play league second or third might play rugby. Basketball is huge on the coast too (bring back the Rollers or the Blaze).
In terms of population growth they decision may have made some sense, and there’s no shortage of people willing to throw cash around up there (whether they have it is another thing…), they would get a great stadium etc, but the fan base was going to have to been plucked from barely nothing.
