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Chiefs 2022

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/126235444/chiefs-confirm-damian-mckenzies-departure-confident-in-josh-ioanes-character

    “Look, all I know is Damian’s not going to be with us, at the moment that’s all I can sort of comment on,” Collins told Stuff on Tuesday.

    Collins confirmed there were “a couple of spots” left to fill in the Chiefs’ 38-man squad for next year and that when the NPC resumed they were eagerly tracking several players from the provincial unions within the region.

    No mention of Reihana in the article.

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    @bovidae no but they mention Gatland is out of MIQ. There goes my cunning plan.

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      so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

      ....can we have smith or gatland back?

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        so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

        ....can we have smith or gatland back?

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        @kiwiwomble I feel your pain, the Blues did the same to us.

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

          ....can we have smith or gatland back?

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          @kiwiwomble Didn't you take Hunt from the Crusaders? And Gatland from the Blues?

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            @kiwiwomble Didn't you take Hunt from the Crusaders? And Gatland from the Blues?

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            @stargazer and both were really upset and have really fall on hard times....poor blues with BB and crusaders with Mo'unga

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

              ....can we have smith or gatland back?

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              @kiwiwomble Plenty of Chiefs players have moved in the other direction too, maybe not just in the same position.

              Smith might be available if he isn't heading back to Japan.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @kiwiwomble Plenty of Chiefs players have moved in the other direction too, maybe not just in the same position.

                Smith might be available if he isn't heading back to Japan.

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                @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                @kiwiwomble Plenty of Chiefs players have moved in the other direction too, maybe not just in the same position.

                Smith might be available if he isn't heading back to Japan.

                He won't be going back to the Shining Arcs (Otere Black) but there will be other spots open I assume.

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

                  ....can we have smith or gatland back?

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                  @kiwiwomble said in Chiefs 2022:

                  so in the last few years waikato or the chiefs have taken fletcher smith, gatland and now Ioane...leave us alone, pick on the saders!

                  ....can we have smith or gatland back?

                  You're welcome to Gatland. He comes as a package deal mind you.

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                    Well, I was really a bit pissed off with the Chiefs for losing Dmac with seemingly nothing in sight, but we have done as well as can be expected, given that we are losing our key game driver.

                    It should open up opportunities for younger players to have an opportunity (e.g., Trask at 15 or Stevenson etc) and we still have a player who should be able to drive around a Super team at 10.

                    So, less of a fuck you to the Chiefs board and coaching team, that's my new position. Until we start losing.

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                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/126241412/super-rugby-pacific-highlanders-track-naholo-brothers-waisake-and-kini-for-2022

                      interesting article wonder who will replace kini

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                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/126241412/super-rugby-pacific-highlanders-track-naholo-brothers-waisake-and-kini-for-2022

                        interesting article wonder who will replace kini

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                        @ploughboy said in Chiefs 2022:

                        interesting article wonder who will replace kini

                        He would only have had a WTG contract this year.

                        While we would all like an explosive winger the coaches might think they've got enough cover with 5 players in this years squad able to play on the wing. If Wrampling gets a full contract he is an option there too. Maybe Narawa is available but not really a step up from who is there at the moment.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          Well, I was really a bit pissed off with the Chiefs for losing Dmac with seemingly nothing in sight, but we have done as well as can be expected, given that we are losing our key game driver.

                          It should open up opportunities for younger players to have an opportunity (e.g., Trask at 15 or Stevenson etc) and we still have a player who should be able to drive around a Super team at 10.

                          So, less of a fuck you to the Chiefs board and coaching team, that's my new position. Until we start losing.

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                          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                          Well, I was really a bit pissed off with the Chiefs for losing Dmac with seemingly nothing in sight, but we have done as well as can be expected, given that we are losing our key game driver.

                          I don't get this 'losing DMac' like the Chiefs can compete. If he feels the need to make a load of cash he has to go overseas, this is one of the reasons that NZR want Silver Lake. If the players want the money, we're stuffed. It's only those that want to balance that with the awesomeness of being an All Black we have a chance with.

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                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/126241412/super-rugby-pacific-highlanders-track-naholo-brothers-waisake-and-kini-for-2022

                            interesting article wonder who will replace kini

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                            Boo. So, we’ll have tiny and/or ineffective wings.

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                              who was that winger playing for bop fijiian guy

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                                @ploughboy

                                Boo. So, we’ll have tiny and/or ineffective wings.

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                                @gt12 Kini is not a big winger like his brother. In fact, he would be smaller than what we have now.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @gt12 Kini is not a big winger like his brother. In fact, he would be smaller than what we have now.

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                                  @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                  @gt12 Kini is not a big winger like his brother. In fact, he would be smaller than what we have now.

                                  I know, which is why I added ‘ineffective’

                                  I know he’s an injury risk, but we don’t have much class on the wings, and he does have potential to be useful.

                                  I hope we still have Lowe as he should be a starter, so with luck, ENS will turn the corner or Stevenson will get a bit more consistent.

                                  There is also Wainui I guess, and we also have? Wrampling?

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                                    @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                    @gt12 Kini is not a big winger like his brother. In fact, he would be smaller than what we have now.

                                    I know, which is why I added ‘ineffective’

                                    I know he’s an injury risk, but we don’t have much class on the wings, and he does have potential to be useful.

                                    I hope we still have Lowe as he should be a starter, so with luck, ENS will turn the corner or Stevenson will get a bit more consistent.

                                    There is also Wainui I guess, and we also have? Wrampling?

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                                    @gt12 Ratave and Dawai looked worthy of further inspection in early rounds of NPC. Would like to see Regan Ware in 15s too.

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                                      ENS has similar skills to Naholo so could definitely fill that role. He would be competing with Wainui on the left wing, but I'd really like to see him at fullback with his speed and stepping to provide a similar threat to DMac from deep. That leaves Lowe and Stevenson for the right wing, along with Sullivan.

                                      I don't really see any explosive winger out there who isn't contracted.

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                                        ENS has similar skills to Naholo so could definitely fill that role. He would be competing with Wainui on the left wing, but I'd really like to see him at fullback with his speed and stepping to provide a similar threat to DMac from deep. That leaves Lowe and Stevenson for the right wing, along with Sullivan.

                                        I don't really see any explosive winger out there who isn't contracted.

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                                        @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                        ENS has similar skills to Naholo so could definitely fill that role. He would be competing with Wainui on the left wing, but I'd really like to see him at fullback with his speed and stepping to provide a similar threat to DMac from deep. That leaves Lowe and Stevenson for the right wing, along with Sullivan.

                                        I don't really see any explosive winger out there who isn't contracted.

                                        Yet, really good wingers will sit on the bench (if they are lucky) for the Blues. Strange.

                                        I think ENS is a bit shit at 15s, but I hope we’ll see him perform better this year. He can beat a man, but he’s a bit of a small turn-style on D.

                                        By not having Dmac back there, we should have better balance in terms of size at least, I guess.

                                        Do you think Sullivan will get some opportunities in the midfield this year?

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                                          @bovidae said in Chiefs 2022:

                                          ENS has similar skills to Naholo so could definitely fill that role. He would be competing with Wainui on the left wing, but I'd really like to see him at fullback with his speed and stepping to provide a similar threat to DMac from deep. That leaves Lowe and Stevenson for the right wing, along with Sullivan.

                                          I don't really see any explosive winger out there who isn't contracted.

                                          Yet, really good wingers will sit on the bench (if they are lucky) for the Blues. Strange.

                                          I think ENS is a bit shit at 15s, but I hope we’ll see him perform better this year. He can beat a man, but he’s a bit of a small turn-style on D.

                                          By not having Dmac back there, we should have better balance in terms of size at least, I guess.

                                          Do you think Sullivan will get some opportunities in the midfield this year?

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                                          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2022:

                                          Do you think Sullivan will get some opportunities in the midfield this year?

                                          He would say that centre is his favoured position. Sullivan has had so few opportunities since he has been in the main squad, so I'm not sure what the situation is there.

                                          The first choice midfield will be Tupaea-ALB with Nankivell as the backup. I'd hope Sullivan is the next option, if he is still contracted, ahead of Wainui and Lowe. Wrampling is one for the future at centre.

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