Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth)
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@landp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
I do look at Dave Rennie and Wayne Pivac plus the 3 wise men and suspect that NH head coaching experience really can help at this level.
With the passage of time I become even more entrenched in my view that certain resumes have been padded by the benefit of working with Wayne Smith.
@antipodean said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@landp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
I do look at Dave Rennie and Wayne Pivac plus the 3 wise men and suspect that NH head coaching experience really can help at this level.
With the passage of time I become even more entrenched in my view that certain resumes have been padded by the benefit of working with Wayne Smith.
So smart, smart enough to put his ego to the side knowing he's probably not the right head coach. I rate Henry fwiw.
Been a bit meh and dropped in terms of tactics and selection clarity since 2016. Looks a bit chummy then and now, too hard to get dropped. Too much flexibility positional flexibility for favoured players blah blah
ABs now seem a bit "we win with our superior AB skillz(TM) and dual-playmaker (TM)".
But really I'd prefer to see more ... "Sod a dual-playmaker(TM), we win with our brutal uncompromising edge and THEN crush them with the skillz(TM)"
Rant over, I'm new here, apologies to all offended
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@antipodean said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@landp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
I do look at Dave Rennie and Wayne Pivac plus the 3 wise men and suspect that NH head coaching experience really can help at this level.
With the passage of time I become even more entrenched in my view that certain resumes have been padded by the benefit of working with Wayne Smith.
So smart, smart enough to put his ego to the side knowing he's probably not the right head coach. I rate Henry fwiw.
Been a bit meh and dropped in terms of tactics and selection clarity since 2016. Looks a bit chummy then and now, too hard to get dropped. Too much flexibility positional flexibility for favoured players blah blah
ABs now seem a bit "we win with our superior AB skillz(TM) and dual-playmaker (TM)".
But really I'd prefer to see more ... "Sod a dual-playmaker(TM), we win with our brutal uncompromising edge and THEN crush them with the skillz(TM)"
Rant over, I'm new here, apologies to all offended
@landp LOL you need to work on your ranting, far tooo tame for here!
But I think a lot of people agree after the miracle year of '16 he stayed on too long. Original plan was to be there for the Lions, then go. Would've been ideal, Foster would've got his two years to RWC, failed just as badly as Hansen I'm sure. Then we would've a got a new broom. Instead we've got 4 more years, and I am sure we'll be samshed up front in an improtant game in the RWC, and still have no plan (that works) to defeat an uncompromising defence oriented team when they get in our face and our skillz(TM) aren't working.
Hope I'm wrong and we never lose another game ever and Fozzie is the second coming. But really think we're on a downward spiral of losing to Argentina type mediocrity
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@landp LOL you need to work on your ranting, far tooo tame for here!
But I think a lot of people agree after the miracle year of '16 he stayed on too long. Original plan was to be there for the Lions, then go. Would've been ideal, Foster would've got his two years to RWC, failed just as badly as Hansen I'm sure. Then we would've a got a new broom. Instead we've got 4 more years, and I am sure we'll be samshed up front in an improtant game in the RWC, and still have no plan (that works) to defeat an uncompromising defence oriented team when they get in our face and our skillz(TM) aren't working.
Hope I'm wrong and we never lose another game ever and Fozzie is the second coming. But really think we're on a downward spiral of losing to Argentina type mediocrity
@machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@landp LOL you need to work on your ranting, far tooo tame for here!
But I think a lot of people agree after the miracle year of '16 he stayed on too long. Original plan was to be there for the Lions, then go. Would've been ideal, Foster would've got his two years to RWC, failed just as badly as Hansen I'm sure. Then we would've a got a new broom. Instead we've got 4 more years, and I am sure we'll be samshed up front in an improtant game in the RWC, and still have no plan (that works) to defeat an uncompromising defence oriented team when they get in our face and our skillz(TM) aren't working.
Hope I'm wrong and we never lose another game ever and Fozzie is the second coming. But really think we're on a downward spiral of losing to Argentina type mediocrity
Not even sure if that's the case - no Barrett at blindside and Cane picking up daisys for one.
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@antipodean said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@landp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
I do look at Dave Rennie and Wayne Pivac plus the 3 wise men and suspect that NH head coaching experience really can help at this level.
With the passage of time I become even more entrenched in my view that certain resumes have been padded by the benefit of working with Wayne Smith.
He was clearly an integral piece of the puzzle. GH was no slug either mind you. No coincidence the previous super rugby title the Blues won, GH was in the management team
@canefan said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@antipodean said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@landp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
I do look at Dave Rennie and Wayne Pivac plus the 3 wise men and suspect that NH head coaching experience really can help at this level.
With the passage of time I become even more entrenched in my view that certain resumes have been padded by the benefit of working with Wayne Smith.
He was clearly an integral piece of the puzzle. GH was no slug either mind you. No coincidence the previous super rugby title the Blues won, GH was in the management team
Yes, plus rebuilt a poor AB culture. Plus had the balls to stick around after a gut-wrenching 2007 WC loss, serious balls and must have been very very driven to do keep going tbh.
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@canefan said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@antipodean said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@landp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
I do look at Dave Rennie and Wayne Pivac plus the 3 wise men and suspect that NH head coaching experience really can help at this level.
With the passage of time I become even more entrenched in my view that certain resumes have been padded by the benefit of working with Wayne Smith.
He was clearly an integral piece of the puzzle. GH was no slug either mind you. No coincidence the previous super rugby title the Blues won, GH was in the management team
Yes, plus rebuilt a poor AB culture. Plus had the balls to stick around after a gut-wrenching 2007 WC loss, serious balls and must have been very very driven to do keep going tbh.
How do I rep on this forum??
@landp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@canefan said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@antipodean said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@landp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
I do look at Dave Rennie and Wayne Pivac plus the 3 wise men and suspect that NH head coaching experience really can help at this level.
With the passage of time I become even more entrenched in my view that certain resumes have been padded by the benefit of working with Wayne Smith.
He was clearly an integral piece of the puzzle. GH was no slug either mind you. No coincidence the previous super rugby title the Blues won, GH was in the management team
Yes, plus rebuilt a poor AB culture. Plus had the balls to stick around after a gut-wrenching 2007 WC loss, serious balls and must have been very very driven to do keep going tbh.
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@antipodean said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@landp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
I do look at Dave Rennie and Wayne Pivac plus the 3 wise men and suspect that NH head coaching experience really can help at this level.
With the passage of time I become even more entrenched in my view that certain resumes have been padded by the benefit of working with Wayne Smith.
So smart, smart enough to put his ego to the side knowing he's probably not the right head coach. I rate Henry fwiw.
Been a bit meh and dropped in terms of tactics and selection clarity since 2016. Looks a bit chummy then and now, too hard to get dropped. Too much flexibility positional flexibility for favoured players blah blah
ABs now seem a bit "we win with our superior AB skillz(TM) and dual-playmaker (TM)".
But really I'd prefer to see more ... "Sod a dual-playmaker(TM), we win with our brutal uncompromising edge and THEN crush them with the skillz(TM)"
Rant over, I'm new here, apologies to all offended
@landp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Rant over, I'm new here, apologies to all offended
If it's not deleted there's nothing to apologise for.
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I'm assuming the teams are names 11am Perth time? Is that in 15 mins or 1 hour and 15 mins?
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I'm assuming the teams are names 11am Perth time? Is that in 15 mins or 1 hour and 15 mins?
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And remember how boring it was for all those years when we were awesome and the team naming was utterly predictable and without much argument on here?
I do not miss those days. I look forward to the howls that follow the team naming!
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I'm assuming the teams are names 11am Perth time? Is that in 15 mins or 1 hour and 15 mins?
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who was it that implemented the less than successful "flat backline"? Was that Wayne SMith?
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who was it that implemented the less than successful "flat backline"? Was that Wayne SMith?
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@taniwharugby The Ella brothers.
@old-samurai-jack I dont recall them playing for us
Either way, that was probably the only real blip for Smith as an AB coach.
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https://www.rugbypass.com/news/kerevi-re-call-set-to-break-giteau-law/
Samu Kerevi will start for the Wallabies on Sunday, two years after his last appearance and a move to Japan he feared would end his Test career.
The explosive tackle-buster will be named at inside centre against New Zealand in Perth, replacing Hunter Paisami who returned home for the birth of his child.
He’s back in the Wallabies fold now thanks to a relaxation of the Giteau Law, the veteran of 33 Tests one of two overseas-based players allowed despite not meeting the 60-cap qualification.
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Dave Rennie shuffling deckchairs. Obviously not a fan of established partnerships.
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i really rated Kerevi when he left, i hope for Australia's sake he comes back the same player.
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@landp LOL you need to work on your ranting, far tooo tame for here!
But I think a lot of people agree after the miracle year of '16 he stayed on too long. Original plan was to be there for the Lions, then go. Would've been ideal, Foster would've got his two years to RWC, failed just as badly as Hansen I'm sure. Then we would've a got a new broom. Instead we've got 4 more years, and I am sure we'll be samshed up front in an improtant game in the RWC, and still have no plan (that works) to defeat an uncompromising defence oriented team when they get in our face and our skillz(TM) aren't working.
Hope I'm wrong and we never lose another game ever and Fozzie is the second coming. But really think we're on a downward spiral of losing to Argentina type mediocrity
@machpants I love watching AB rugby and the Skillz (TM) on display, no team does it better
But what I really love is when an AB pack comes out totally fired up against a full French or English pack who are ALSO totally fired up and gradually not just get "parity" but beat them head on physically. Often that takes 65+ minutes and it's 9-6 or 6-9 but the other side is dead on their feet by then
THEN you can show the skills and maybe let BB shovel a pass to 12 to run a crash ball and set up next forward phase :winking_face:
I'm half joking tbh, but the great teams know when that upfront edge is pretty mainly what is needed on a certain day ... it seems to go missing sometimes in the ABs the last few years.
If not NZ, I really hope France win the next world cup btw
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have i missed the team announcement? thought it would have been done by now
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@machpants I love watching AB rugby and the Skillz (TM) on display, no team does it better
But what I really love is when an AB pack comes out totally fired up against a full French or English pack who are ALSO totally fired up and gradually not just get "parity" but beat them head on physically. Often that takes 65+ minutes and it's 9-6 or 6-9 but the other side is dead on their feet by then
THEN you can show the skills and maybe let BB shovel a pass to 12 to run a crash ball and set up next forward phase :winking_face:
I'm half joking tbh, but the great teams know when that upfront edge is pretty mainly what is needed on a certain day ... it seems to go missing sometimes in the ABs the last few years.
If not NZ, I really hope France win the next world cup btw
