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Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth)

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  • TimT Away
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    Akira Ioane's big work ons:

    Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

    Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

    Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

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    • O Old Samurai Jack

      @booboo Soooo..... Havili....mmm.....more specific, please. I can't fault him at this stage. Defense is sound, an extra playmaker, involved in everything, great distribution....
      So what's the problem?

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      @old-samurai-jack I agree. I think some people are still comparing him too Nonu, and that's unfair. It's better to compare him with Crotty, and then he's really growing well into that role. He was excellent tonight.

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      • boobooB booboo

        @nzzp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

        SHUT UP JUSTIN

        Liked for content even though I'm unaware of the contexr

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        @booboo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

        @nzzp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

        SHUT UP JUSTIN

        Liked for content even though I'm unaware of the contexr

        Context was that he was talking.
        That was one of his worst stints at the mike tonight and he’s had some shockers.
        Tripping over himself, spouting his lack of knowledge at the laws then carrying on about his opinion even when he realises it was incorrect, praising Will Jordan effusively whenever he got within 20 metres of the play, calling Bridges try as if he had just stepped and fended his way through the defence.....it was endless verbal diarrhoea.

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          I could be wrong but it seemed obvious that Nisbo and Meg were commentating from a studio in NZ, not at the stadium. That doesn't excuse Marshall's lack of knowledge of the laws, but at least he is consistent.

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            be interesting to see how this AB backrow go against a real team. Akira always looked legit to me and was surprised when guys like Frizell got a go ahead of him.

            That said, hes only played Aus which basically counts for nothing.

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            • N Nevorian

              Akita man of the match hardly suprising

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              @nevorian said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

              Akita man of the match hardly suprising

              Akita must be his beastmode name..

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                Haven't seen a performance from a NZ No.6 like tonight since peak Kaino. Akira's influence was huge.

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                • O Old Samurai Jack

                  Haven't seen a performance from a NZ No.6 like tonight since peak Kaino. Akira's influence was huge.

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                  @old-samurai-jack Think his decision making and jackling could get a lot better too.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @nzzp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                    @akan004 said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                    @nzzp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                    their anthem always beats ours. So much better

                    No way. Ours is one of the best imo.

                    I love our anthem as much as anyone, but it's a goddamn dirge. Aus's is faster, upbeat and uplifting.

                    As long as we win the rugby I'm happy, but we start behind in the anthem contest

                    Nup

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                    @booboo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                    @nzzp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                    @akan004 said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                    @nzzp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                    their anthem always beats ours. So much better

                    No way. Ours is one of the best imo.

                    I love our anthem as much as anyone, but it's a goddamn dirge. Aus's is faster, upbeat and uplifting.

                    As long as we win the rugby I'm happy, but we start behind in the anthem contest

                    Nup

                    Australia national anthem is shit. Should replace it with that We are Australian song. No young and free to be upset about either. I've always really liked GDNZ. Any foreign mates who've heard it have also rated it.

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                      #1076

                      That is now the worst red card I've ever seen

                      Yay rugby

                      Lol

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                        Thanks to Perth and the ARU for being tremendous hosts for such a great fixture. Look forward to next time.

                        What a rabble. I really rated Rennie but that was embarrassing.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                          Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                          Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                          Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

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                          #1078

                          @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                          Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                          Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                          Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                          Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

                          I thought after watching today his only work on for me is a huge nit pick, but I would've preferred to see him take those tries himself - extra pass makes room for a mistake and getting those tries himself maybe has an effect on the oppo"s head space too? Best game in black for me, although admittedly against a fairly ordinary Oz.

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                            People seem to have seen a different Weber to me, linking play, yeah great, but while his passing from the base was generally in the right direction, it was made to look a lot better by everyone else (especially BB) having glue hands and picking it up on the bounce off their shins.

                            Much happier with Jordan today, couple of Bizarre kicks, but some great defence and actually linking with his teammates when ball in hand.

                            Thought the midfield "mix" (i.e. including when Roane often found himself there) was excellent on defence.

                            Shame to see Taukieaho drop his standard on throwing, hopefully that's an easy fix.

                            Liked the physicality from Bower.

                            Probably the worst ref performance since lions 17 for mine. Murphy misses a ridiculous amount of obvious stuff right in front of him and then makes stuff up. Both ways. Where was the yellow card when Ardie took the quick tap?

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                              @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                              Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                              Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                              Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                              Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

                              I thought after watching today his only work on for me is a huge nit pick, but I would've preferred to see him take those tries himself - extra pass makes room for a mistake and getting those tries himself maybe has an effect on the oppo"s head space too? Best game in black for me, although admittedly against a fairly ordinary Oz.

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                              @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                              @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                              Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                              Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                              Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                              Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

                              I thought after watching today his only work on for me is a huge nit pick, but I would've preferred to see him take those tries himself - extra pass makes room for a mistake and getting those tries himself maybe has an effect on the oppo"s head space too? Best game in black for me, although admittedly against a fairly ordinary Oz.

                              I agree with this, almost like he was showboating that the gams is too easy for him, look at how unselfish I am etc. Just run over that last defender!!

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                              • voodooV voodoo

                                @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                                Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                                Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                                Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

                                I thought after watching today his only work on for me is a huge nit pick, but I would've preferred to see him take those tries himself - extra pass makes room for a mistake and getting those tries himself maybe has an effect on the oppo"s head space too? Best game in black for me, although admittedly against a fairly ordinary Oz.

                                I agree with this, almost like he was showboating that the gams is too easy for him, look at how unselfish I am etc. Just run over that last defender!!

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                                @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                                Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                                Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                                Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

                                I thought after watching today his only work on for me is a huge nit pick, but I would've preferred to see him take those tries himself - extra pass makes room for a mistake and getting those tries himself maybe has an effect on the oppo"s head space too? Best game in black for me, although admittedly against a fairly ordinary Oz.

                                I agree with this, almost like he was showboating that the gams is too easy for him, look at how unselfish I am etc. Just run over that last defender!!

                                Not sure on that! Think he probably thought he was taking the option that he won't get criticised for and would appear to be better for the team, not showing off. Can't fault him for doing it, just my preference would be he didn't.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                                  Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                                  Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                                  Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

                                  I thought after watching today his only work on for me is a huge nit pick, but I would've preferred to see him take those tries himself - extra pass makes room for a mistake and getting those tries himself maybe has an effect on the oppo"s head space too? Best game in black for me, although admittedly against a fairly ordinary Oz.

                                  I agree with this, almost like he was showboating that the gams is too easy for him, look at how unselfish I am etc. Just run over that last defender!!

                                  Not sure on that! Think he probably thought he was taking the option that he won't get criticised for and would appear to be better for the team, not showing off. Can't fault him for doing it, just my preference would be he didn't.

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                                  @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                  Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                                  Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                                  Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                                  Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

                                  I thought after watching today his only work on for me is a huge nit pick, but I would've preferred to see him take those tries himself - extra pass makes room for a mistake and getting those tries himself maybe has an effect on the oppo"s head space too? Best game in black for me, although admittedly against a fairly ordinary Oz.

                                  I agree with this, almost like he was showboating that the gams is too easy for him, look at how unselfish I am etc. Just run over that last defender!!

                                  Not sure on that! Think he probably thought he was taking the option that he won't get criticised for and would appear to be better for the team, not showing off. Can't fault him for doing it, just my preference would be he didn't.

                                  Could have scored two on his own easy. But if he wants to demonstrate he's a team man, good on him. I hope he will take it on his own as he gets increasingly settled in his position

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                    @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                    @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                    Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                                    Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                                    Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                                    Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

                                    I thought after watching today his only work on for me is a huge nit pick, but I would've preferred to see him take those tries himself - extra pass makes room for a mistake and getting those tries himself maybe has an effect on the oppo"s head space too? Best game in black for me, although admittedly against a fairly ordinary Oz.

                                    I agree with this, almost like he was showboating that the gams is too easy for him, look at how unselfish I am etc. Just run over that last defender!!

                                    Not sure on that! Think he probably thought he was taking the option that he won't get criticised for and would appear to be better for the team, not showing off. Can't fault him for doing it, just my preference would be he didn't.

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                                    @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                    @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                    @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                    @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                    Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                                    Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                                    Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                                    Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

                                    I thought after watching today his only work on for me is a huge nit pick, but I would've preferred to see him take those tries himself - extra pass makes room for a mistake and getting those tries himself maybe has an effect on the oppo"s head space too? Best game in black for me, although admittedly against a fairly ordinary Oz.

                                    I agree with this, almost like he was showboating that the gams is too easy for him, look at how unselfish I am etc. Just run over that last defender!!

                                    Not sure on that! Think he probably thought he was taking the option that he won't get criticised for and would appear to be better for the team, not showing off. Can't fault him for doing it, just my preference would be he didn't.

                                    Showboating maybe too harsh, but it felt like he was trying trying to show he can do it all. The big wide skip passes from deep are one thing, but when he's in sight of the line, I just want him to tuck it and go alone

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                                    • voodooV voodoo

                                      @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                      @voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                      @bones said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                      @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                      Akira Ioane's big work ons:

                                      Jackling. He's a big guy, but that's not an excuse. Gets the odd turnover for the Blues but gives away ruck penalties too. May lack confidence as well as skills there.

                                      Link play. Not a traditional big six strength, but could up fitness and improve decision making to get involved more in support. First half of 2019 Super Rugby his link play was excellent, maybe lacks confidence or decision making of when to switch lines.

                                      Decision making of when to stay on his lines and when to hit the ruck or link off his line. Does this very well late in the game, but could increase involvement in first 50 minutes by being able to pick when to get involved. That kind of decision making could be the difference between a very good player and a great player.

                                      I thought after watching today his only work on for me is a huge nit pick, but I would've preferred to see him take those tries himself - extra pass makes room for a mistake and getting those tries himself maybe has an effect on the oppo"s head space too? Best game in black for me, although admittedly against a fairly ordinary Oz.

                                      I agree with this, almost like he was showboating that the gams is too easy for him, look at how unselfish I am etc. Just run over that last defender!!

                                      Not sure on that! Think he probably thought he was taking the option that he won't get criticised for and would appear to be better for the team, not showing off. Can't fault him for doing it, just my preference would be he didn't.

                                      Showboating maybe too harsh, but it felt like he was trying trying to show he can do it all. The big wide skip passes from deep are one thing, but when he's in sight of the line, I just want him to tuck it and go alone

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                                      I loved seeing some of the passing in this game, reminded me of Nonu (here he is last year)

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                                        Bower has grown one me. Couldn’t understand his initial selection but he’s been solid.

                                        If Toke could sort his throwing id have him ahead of Taylor who has been underwhelming.

                                        BBBR best game since his return.

                                        Akira’s best game in black.

                                        Thought Weber was fine.

                                        As much as I like goodhue at 13, the havili/alb combo is making a compelling case.

                                        Reiko is a winger who can cover 13.

                                        It will be nice to see some other team than Aussie. A few ferns pundits still rate rennie as a fantastic coach but if he wasn’t called rennie, results are pretty underwhelming.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Fuck that first try was absolute sex.

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                                          @tim said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):

                                          Fuck that first try was absolute sex.

                                          To be honest almost all the tries were a little bit jizz worthy. Even Havili’s was enough to justify a semi

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