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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
the last vader saw of obi he was a live and not with any troopers, so quite possible vader believes obi is alive and so we might get some vader trying to hunt him down, maybe obi has to fake his death to shake vader before properly going into exile
Moff Tarkin ( one of the most shrewd non force users in the series history ) also said that Obi Wan must have died years ago but I’m not sure if that was Tarkin trying to outsmart Vader ( unlikely ) or him underestimating Obi Wan ( who was still not even 60 years old by that stage )
that might just be him assuming seeing as so many of the jedi were caught in order 66 or in the years immediately after, if you havent heard trace of one of the more prominent jedi for years then you might assume they had been caught
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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i can imagine a whole episode with no dialogue, one big montage of a broken man trying to learn this new life in exile, showing how hard life is, maybe afraid to use the force incase someone senses it, also explaining how much he aged
@MN5 can you remember where you might have heard that, never leaving tattoine?
Ha, coulda been one of those fan theories but it does fit don’t you think ? When we met him in ANH he didn’t even have a speeder bike or other vehicle much less a spaceship so I don’t see him doing much travel. He needed a ride with Luke to Mos Easley !
I agree about him being afraid to use the force too, even those scumbags on tattooine might rat him out to the Empire if they saw him doing Jedi shit. Even given how crap Storm Troopers had become by the original trilogy enough of them storming his hut would be able to wipe him out.
Don't forget that Obi Wan was also tracked down on Tatooine by Maul.
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
the last vader saw of obi he was a live and not with any troopers, so quite possible vader believes obi is alive and so we might get some vader trying to hunt him down, maybe obi has to fake his death to shake vader before properly going into exile
No reason why they can't focus on a life before his exile as a hermit. Maybe he dropped the kid off and left for a while
that what im thinking and what @Kirwan kind of said, we might get this series spread over the full 20 years, a few episodes out looking, maybe a run in with DV, fake death, back to tattoine and a few episodes carving out a life growing old before his time
Yeah. I don't even see a major need to see DV a lot. Like other shows in the universe, there's plenty of space to explore
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
the last vader saw of obi he was a live and not with any troopers, so quite possible vader believes obi is alive and so we might get some vader trying to hunt him down, maybe obi has to fake his death to shake vader before properly going into exile
No reason why they can't focus on a life before his exile as a hermit. Maybe he dropped the kid off and left for a while
that what im thinking and what @Kirwan kind of said, we might get this series spread over the full 20 years, a few episodes out looking, maybe a run in with DV, fake death, back to tattoine and a few episodes carving out a life growing old before his time
Yeah. I don't even see a major need to see DV a lot. Like other shows in the universe, there's plenty of space to explore
Agree normally, but it's a crucial part of Obi Wan's character arc.
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Wonder no more fellas…..
thats like one episode
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@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
the last vader saw of obi he was a live and not with any troopers, so quite possible vader believes obi is alive and so we might get some vader trying to hunt him down, maybe obi has to fake his death to shake vader before properly going into exile
No reason why they can't focus on a life before his exile as a hermit. Maybe he dropped the kid off and left for a while
that what im thinking and what @Kirwan kind of said, we might get this series spread over the full 20 years, a few episodes out looking, maybe a run in with DV, fake death, back to tattoine and a few episodes carving out a life growing old before his time
Yeah. I don't even see a major need to see DV a lot. Like other shows in the universe, there's plenty of space to explore
Agree normally, but it's a crucial part of Obi Wan's character arc.
agreed, thinkit will be like rebels though, one key episode per season kind of thing
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@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
the last vader saw of obi he was a live and not with any troopers, so quite possible vader believes obi is alive and so we might get some vader trying to hunt him down, maybe obi has to fake his death to shake vader before properly going into exile
No reason why they can't focus on a life before his exile as a hermit. Maybe he dropped the kid off and left for a while
that what im thinking and what @Kirwan kind of said, we might get this series spread over the full 20 years, a few episodes out looking, maybe a run in with DV, fake death, back to tattoine and a few episodes carving out a life growing old before his time
Yeah. I don't even see a major need to see DV a lot. Like other shows in the universe, there's plenty of space to explore
Agree normally, but it's a crucial part of Obi Wan's character arc.
As KW said, often, but just not every episode
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I think we may see Yoda as well. There could well be a lot of gap filling done to show that there was a 'plan' all along and the force would see that Luke/ Leia were brought forward when the time was right.
Obi Wan would also be studying how to move on to being a force ghost, possibly with guidance from Qui-Gon (who has a 'very particular set of skills') -
@crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I think we may see Yoda as well. There could well be a lot of gap filling done to show that there was a 'plan' all along and the force would see that Luke/ Leia were brought forward when the time was right.
Obi Wan would also be studying how to move on to being a force ghost, possibly with guidance from Qui-Gon (who has a 'very particular set of skills')Yoga would be massive though, could be one of those Luke on Mando style reveals.
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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i can imagine a whole episode with no dialogue, one big montage of a broken man trying to learn this new life in exile, showing how hard life is, maybe afraid to use the force incase someone senses it, also explaining how much he aged
@MN5 can you remember where you might have heard that, never leaving tattoine?
Ha, coulda been one of those fan theories but it does fit don’t you think ? When we met him in ANH he didn’t even have a speeder bike or other vehicle much less a spaceship so I don’t see him doing much travel. He needed a ride with Luke to Mos Easley !
I agree about him being afraid to use the force too, even those scumbags on tattooine might rat him out to the Empire if they saw him doing Jedi shit. Even given how crap Storm Troopers had become by the original trilogy enough of them storming his hut would be able to wipe him out.
He didn't seem to have a problem whipping out his light saber in Ep4. But maybe non Jedi used them at that stage? It is a farking cool weapon.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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i can imagine a whole episode with no dialogue, one big montage of a broken man trying to learn this new life in exile, showing how hard life is, maybe afraid to use the force incase someone senses it, also explaining how much he aged
@MN5 can you remember where you might have heard that, never leaving tattoine?
Ha, coulda been one of those fan theories but it does fit don’t you think ? When we met him in ANH he didn’t even have a speeder bike or other vehicle much less a spaceship so I don’t see him doing much travel. He needed a ride with Luke to Mos Easley !
I agree about him being afraid to use the force too, even those scumbags on tattooine might rat him out to the Empire if they saw him doing Jedi shit. Even given how crap Storm Troopers had become by the original trilogy enough of them storming his hut would be able to wipe him out.
He didn't seem to have a problem whipping out his light saber in Ep4. But maybe non Jedi used them at that stage? It is a farking cool weapon.
But it was only in the cantina when they were leaving. And as soon as he used it that gonzo looking spy informed the imperials
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@rancid-schnitzel i think the light saber is just a weapon (cool one) not sure the use of it would be sensed
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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i can imagine a whole episode with no dialogue, one big montage of a broken man trying to learn this new life in exile, showing how hard life is, maybe afraid to use the force incase someone senses it, also explaining how much he aged
@MN5 can you remember where you might have heard that, never leaving tattoine?
Ha, coulda been one of those fan theories but it does fit don’t you think ? When we met him in ANH he didn’t even have a speeder bike or other vehicle much less a spaceship so I don’t see him doing much travel. He needed a ride with Luke to Mos Easley !
I agree about him being afraid to use the force too, even those scumbags on tattooine might rat him out to the Empire if they saw him doing Jedi shit. Even given how crap Storm Troopers had become by the original trilogy enough of them storming his hut would be able to wipe him out.
He didn't seem to have a problem whipping out his light saber in Ep4. But maybe non Jedi used them at that stage? It is a farking cool weapon.
But it was only in the cantina when they were leaving. And as soon as he used it that gonzo looking spy informed the imperials
Was it cos he used the lightsaber or because he’d spotted the droids though ?
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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i can imagine a whole episode with no dialogue, one big montage of a broken man trying to learn this new life in exile, showing how hard life is, maybe afraid to use the force incase someone senses it, also explaining how much he aged
@MN5 can you remember where you might have heard that, never leaving tattoine?
Ha, coulda been one of those fan theories but it does fit don’t you think ? When we met him in ANH he didn’t even have a speeder bike or other vehicle much less a spaceship so I don’t see him doing much travel. He needed a ride with Luke to Mos Easley !
I agree about him being afraid to use the force too, even those scumbags on tattooine might rat him out to the Empire if they saw him doing Jedi shit. Even given how crap Storm Troopers had become by the original trilogy enough of them storming his hut would be able to wipe him out.
He didn't seem to have a problem whipping out his light saber in Ep4. But maybe non Jedi used them at that stage? It is a farking cool weapon.
But it was only in the cantina when they were leaving. And as soon as he used it that gonzo looking spy informed the imperials
Was it cos he used the lightsaber or because he’d spotted the droids though ?
Who knows. I'd say cutting that dude's arm off and deflecting those blaster shots created some buzz
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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i can imagine a whole episode with no dialogue, one big montage of a broken man trying to learn this new life in exile, showing how hard life is, maybe afraid to use the force incase someone senses it, also explaining how much he aged
@MN5 can you remember where you might have heard that, never leaving tattoine?
Ha, coulda been one of those fan theories but it does fit don’t you think ? When we met him in ANH he didn’t even have a speeder bike or other vehicle much less a spaceship so I don’t see him doing much travel. He needed a ride with Luke to Mos Easley !
I agree about him being afraid to use the force too, even those scumbags on tattooine might rat him out to the Empire if they saw him doing Jedi shit. Even given how crap Storm Troopers had become by the original trilogy enough of them storming his hut would be able to wipe him out.
He didn't seem to have a problem whipping out his light saber in Ep4. But maybe non Jedi used them at that stage? It is a farking cool weapon.
But it was only in the cantina when they were leaving. And as soon as he used it that gonzo looking spy informed the imperials
Was it cos he used the lightsaber or because he’d spotted the droids though ?
Who knows. I'd say cutting that dude's arm off and deflecting those blaster shots created some buzz
He probably thought “fuck it I’m leaving, time to dice up these two fools, who cares if anyone sees me”
Then again, those two survived according to canon.
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 do they? i thought the canon was the other way around, we see them in rogue one and that is before tattoine
Yeah we do, they obviously jump straight on a ship and head off and escape the destruction on Jedda.
I found their cameo in that particularly unnecessary and gratuitious though.
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 but what canon has them after tatooine?
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Stumbled on this. Rating the top 10 sequel characters. Spoiler alert: Rose, yes Rose is 9. Tells you everything about the disconnect between normal people and the media. And of course how shit the sequels are. Not that I will probably ever watch number 8.
Now compare that to the OT or even the PT. Well you can't because there simply is no comparison.
But for shits and giggles.
OT
Luke
Han
Vader
Bob
Obi
Yoda
Wedge
Lando
Akbar
Leia
(Honourable mentions of course are Chewbacca, Tarkin, Jabba and the droids).PT
Obi
Yoda
Maul
Mace
Dooku
Qui Gon
Anniken
Palpatine
F Fett
Padme
(But if you include CW then a stack of Jedi and clone troopers can be added).