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Wallabies vs Springboks I

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  • S SidBarret

    @smuts I have theory as why we struggle to produce centres as compared to say locks. When they select the craven week teams (especially here in the WC) they only look at the big three schools. It is far harder to miss a 6'8 guy from Tygerberg than it is a center playing in for Bellville.

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    @sidbarret that’s definitely one facet of the problem. In general I’d say there have been far, far too many bang-average Bishops (insert overpriced school of Capistagno’s choice here) okes selected (at every level) and far, far too few rougher players from De Aar Technical College (no idea what the actual WP schools catchment is.)

    But another problem is how few Bobos and JP Pietersens there are. On the one game I saw him play, Bobo was a pretty average schoolboy flank but a more than handy super level centre. Most of our schoolboy coaches are unimaginative, naturally conservative and not all that technically adept. So if a kid was labelled a lock, loosie or prop by the poor bugger coaching u14Cs that’s what he was at open level. And all too often they refuse to drop the old boy’s son who was the hormone wing for the feeder school but is now an undersized, three-legged rocking horse who envies the hands on a digital watch.

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      @sidbarret Ellende is from Milnerton, Am from High School de Vos Malan. They are less rugby schools then Bellville

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      @oompb you’re underlining SB’s point: DdA was a freak. So the system picked him out. Am very, very nearly got lost.

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        @oompb you’re underlining SB’s point: DdA was a freak. So the system picked him out. Am very, very nearly got lost.

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        @smuts sure.

        Craven Week is not the breed of talented players nowadays. Easter Tournaments is more the scouters dream. Problem is we don't had any schoolboy rugby for two seasons.

        I know the Western Cape schoolboy setup well, walking line for my kids schooled at Paarl Gim and the youngest at Paul Roos.

        Paul Roos advert running rugby (win or loose), delivering modern players like Kitshoff, Schalk Brits, Willie , Willemse & Hershell Jantjies.

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        • SmutsS Smuts

          @oompb you’re underlining SB’s point: DdA was a freak. So the system picked him out. Am very, very nearly got lost.

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          @smuts said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

          @oompb you’re underlining SB’s point: DdA was a freak. So the system picked him out. Am very, very nearly got lost.

          Hard to believe De Allende's record against NZ is 1/10 and against Australia is 0/3.

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          • P pakman

            The Boks feed off mistakes. I think I’d start with To’omua at 10 with Lolesio to come off bench.

            Also, Boks defence struggles with 10 who plays flat, that would be the way I’d want them to play.

            Need best scrummaging hooker (BPA?) to start. Mbonambi Is the key to Bok scrum. The first half scrums will be a searching examination, so also start best scrummaging locks. @NTA best placed to fill in names!

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            @pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

            The Boks feed off mistakes. I think I’d start with To’omua at 10 with Lolesio to come off bench.

            The media is saying that Quade will be starting.

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              @pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

              The Boks feed off mistakes. I think I’d start with To’omua at 10 with Lolesio to come off bench.

              The media is saying that Quade will be starting.

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              @bovidae :astonished_face:

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                The Boks feed off mistakes. I think I’d start with To’omua at 10 with Lolesio to come off bench.

                The media is saying that Quade will be starting.

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                @bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                @pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                The Boks feed off mistakes. I think I’d start with To’omua at 10 with Lolesio to come off bench.

                The media is saying that Quade will be starting.

                Secure your laptops

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                  Hilarious if he was crucial in a Wallabies win and he still got denied citizenship.

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                    Hilarious if he was crucial in a Wallabies win and he still got denied citizenship.

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                    @frye said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                    Hilarious if he was crucial in a Wallabies win and he still got denied citizenship.

                    It is a bit of a joke

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                      @frye said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                      Hilarious if he was crucial in a Wallabies win and he still got denied citizenship.

                      It is a bit of a joke

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                      @canefan said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                      @frye said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                      Hilarious if he was crucial in a Wallabies win and he still got denied citizenship.

                      It is a bit of a joke

                      He's being a whinger, he's not living in Oz and wondering why he can't get citizenship? He spends all his times overseas, so he'll need to wait ntil he retires.

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                      • P pakman

                        The Boks feed off mistakes. I think I’d start with To’omua at 10 with Lolesio to come off bench.

                        Also, Boks defence struggles with 10 who plays flat, that would be the way I’d want them to play.

                        Need best scrummaging hooker (BPA?) to start. Mbonambi Is the key to Bok scrum. The first half scrums will be a searching examination, so also start best scrummaging locks. @NTA best placed to fill in names!

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                        @pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                        Need best scrummaging hooker (BPA?) to start. Mbonambi Is the key to Bok scrum. The first half scrums will be a searching examination, so also start best scrummaging locks. @NTA best placed to fill in names!

                        If you want big lumps, then Philip and Rodda. LSL is out, and not sure Swain is quite ready tho we did alright against the ABs with him in the row.

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                          https://twitter.com/NrcSydney/status/1436134483363864576?s=20

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                              @kiwiwomble Rob Leota v the Springbok giants???

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                                @kiwiwomble Rob Leota v the Springbok giants???

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                                @arhs i just post it...i didn't choose it

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                                  1 Reds player in that starting XV. Strange that Wilson is no longer rated by Rennie.

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                                    Hooper with all the work to do again. Nice to see Bell get a start but that's underwhelming. Why are they persisting with that donkey at fullback?

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                                      @pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                                      Need best scrummaging hooker (BPA?) to start. Mbonambi Is the key to Bok scrum. The first half scrums will be a searching examination, so also start best scrummaging locks. @NTA best placed to fill in names!

                                      If you want big lumps, then Philip and Rodda. LSL is out, and not sure Swain is quite ready tho we did alright against the ABs with him in the row.

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                                      @nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                                      @pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:

                                      Need best scrummaging hooker (BPA?) to start. Mbonambi Is the key to Bok scrum. The first half scrums will be a searching examination, so also start best scrummaging locks. @NTA best placed to fill in names!

                                      If you want big lumps, then Philip and Rodda

                                      Picked it.

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                                        Who knows what Tom Banks needs to do to play himself out of the 15 jersey. At this point I'd even be willing to give Jock Campbell a run.

                                        Ditto Valetini at 8. Wilson a way, way better option. Particularly because they keep sticking Valetini on that right flank when he can't do the showboating loose forward bit.

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                                          Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.

                                          Hope Bok rush defense is on it.

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