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@chris-b said in Other Cricket:
@mn5 said in Other Cricket:
Recently retired Dale Steyn was certainly some bowler and an absolute all time great. That average was as good as anyone’s in an era where batting averages of 50+ were far more common. He looked like an unhinged psycho too which always helps.
Top ten fast bowlers of all time ? Yeah I’d say so. Others ( purely off the top of my head and factoring ability/longevity ) include our own Paddles, Marshall, Ambrose, Akram, Younis, Imran……Lillee……McGrath…..
Any glaring omissions ?
Really good bowlers like Walsh, Anderson, Donald, Garner, Holding, Roberts, Croft, Bishop might miss out, just not as good or in some cases their careers weren’t long enough.
To take the other side of the rugby conversation
- there's a bunch of guys prior to Lillee - Sid Barnes, Fred Trueman, Frank Tyson, Ray Lindwall, Keith Miller.Jeff Thomson probably fits into the bunch of really good guys who might miss out, but at his peak he would have been as tough to face as anyone and might have been the fastest.
Yeah all those real old timers had bloody good records, add Millers batting in as well and you’ve got a sensational player. One of the GOAT.
Thomson’s aura definitely exceeds his record, I think once he slowed down he became much easier to handle. 200 wickets at 28.00 isn’t that incredible for someone being talked of in this conversation. Our own Southee and Boult have taken considerably more wickets at around the same average and whilst they’re both kiwi greats no one is gonna mention them amongst the best of their generation.
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@chris-b said in Other Cricket:
@mn5 Yeah -Thommo was never the same after he injured his shoulder (colliding with a teammate), so his peak was probably only a couple of years - and really maybe just one series against England.
Same thing with Andrew Flintoff, Amazing in an Ashes series or two but otherwise kinda ordinary.
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@mn5 said in Other Cricket:
@chris-b said in Other Cricket:
@mn5 Yeah -Thommo was never the same after he injured his shoulder (colliding with a teammate), so his peak was probably only a couple of years - and really maybe just one series against England.
Same thing with Andrew Flintoff, Amazing in an Ashes series or two but otherwise kinda ordinary.
Good point. Both had their moments when they were sensational but either not consistent enough or durable enough.
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All out for 17 in a World Cup qualification international. Is that a new world international record set? Did New Zealand finally lose their longstanding record tonight? Could have been touch and go when the number 9 got into stride and scored 3. The rest of the team only scored 4 between them. Some Immaculate bowling it seems.
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@catogrande listened to his desert island discs only yesterday. Interesting even though the presenter got her facts hopelessly wrong a couple of times. Comes across as a lovely guy.
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@Daffy-Jaffy Did the non striking batsman get given out for handled ball when she stole it from the dog? Incidentally they could have got another couple of runs had they kept going whilst the field invader was enjoying the limelight. You would not be surprised if a couple of Aussies continued running!!!
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