Wallabies vs Springboks I
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@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Aussies looking good, they’re at home on the sunny Gold Coast. There will be hundreds of people supporting the men in gold(en orange). Quade is back, Hooper is fit, the right halfback is starting, they’ve got experience off the bench with Slipper and Hodge to close out the match, they have devastating runners in Koro and Kerevi.
On the other hand it could be a massive boil over and the Boks win.
@act-crusader said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Aussies looking good, they’re at home on the sunny Gold Coast. There will be hundreds of people supporting the men in gold(en orange). Quade is back, Hooper is fit, the right halfback is starting, they’ve got experience off the bench with Slipper and Hodge to close out the match, they have devastating runners in Koro and Kerevi.
On the other hand it could be a massive boil over and the Boks win.
I LOVE to see Quade back, and I will watch live just because of him. He and Carlos Spencer are compulsive viewing no matter win or lose. Their highlights reels are matched by their "fail/omg what were they thinking" reels, but they give it a go and they play rugby the way God(TM) intended it to be played**.
**Biblical references (sadly both omitted by the Council of Trent from 1563 onwards)
Eleventh Commandment
"Thou shalt exhalt the the Spiritual Guardianship of the Lord by playing running rugby 'as the angels do'. Though shalt risk earthly disregard or dishour to please Him through occasional heavenly reverse passes, banana kicks, and mortal heart-attack playmaking from the in-goal area. Amen"Twelth Commandment
"Though shalt not worship at the idolatrous altar of the round ball game. Evil doers that succumb to temptation shall suffer everlasting destruction, and be shut out from the blinding Aura of the Lord forever, for the glory of his One True Game. Hallelujah"(There were more passages about a special place in hell for 'believers' mininimising scrums, removing the breakdown, or any vile "perversions" of His Game specifically involving 10,12, 13 or 666 players).
Seriously I sense Dave Rennie is just starting to lose the selection plot and pander to populist opinion (yeah, including me). The Aussies need game management at both 9 and 10 ... I'd have chosen White and Hodge and have explained why, but dropping Tate MacDermott would be very unpopular - even if he's part of a wider problem imho. So Noah takes the hit.
Quade to play relatively conservatively, Boks by 10-17.
This is the prophecy :winking_face:
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@l_n_p said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
I've watched Bledisloe 3 a couple of times but with my AB eye-patch on :winking_face:
I don't really get the Aussie tactics. Playing the AB's at their own game as they did seems insane, the result was pretty much what you'd expect.
Especially with the Boks next up, why did they not try a tighter more set-piece (yes defensive) orientated game. Perhaps it would have been damage limitation but occasionally you get lucky. The aussie backs look either pretty average or pretty inexperienced (or both) at the moment.
For all the hyping of Tate McDermott, he has a slow pass with limited range. And his running game doesn't bring others into play ... perhaps says more about aussie team than him. Noah Lolisio may be good in time but in NZ rugby he would probably be treated more like Zarn Sullivan i.e. give him time to develop (and Zarn, from what I've seen, may have that ultimate gift for a 10, he always seems to have time).
I'd have Nick White at 9 versus the Boks. Decent pass. Brings his forwards in better. Better kicking game. There are no decent options at 10 until JOC is back and JOC is still only a safe pair of hands at 10.
I don't envy Dave Rennie tbh.
Dave's big problem is that Aussie sports / rugby fans will never get behind a team that plays "pragmatic" rugby. They love a winner that plays hard and pushes boundaries, but they really hate dour, defence-first, conservative teams. It's probably part of the national psyche that their sports teams, and people, are meant to have a crack.
@junior said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Dave's big problem is that Aussie sports / rugby fans will never get behind a team that plays "pragmatic" rugby. They love a winner that plays hard and pushes boundaries, but they really hate dour, defence-first, conservative teams. It's probably part of the national psyche that their sports teams, and people, are meant to have a crack.
Yeah, I don't disagree but even the AB's have been known when to play dour risk free rugby when conditions (wet/windy/greasy), opposition (a crack French pack) or situation ("must win") requires.
Admittedly less so since St. Richie stopped playing in 2015, witness the second half of the RWC final vs France in 2011. But I'd argue that's been part of the AB problems recently ... either tactical inflexibility or lack of ability to switch into this mode.
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@frank said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Seriously ? No way.
Totally not serious. He's just desperate for that under dog card. World champion, world number one, lion taming boks are the favourite in every match they play for a while yet
@machpants said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@frank said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Seriously ? No way.
Totally not serious. He's just desperate for that under dog card. World champion, world number one, lion taming boks are the favourite in every match they play for a while yet
Would it be fair to say that the Boks have a bit of an “aura” about them…? @booboo
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@machpants said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@frank said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Seriously ? No way.
Totally not serious. He's just desperate for that under dog card. World champion, world number one, lion taming boks are the favourite in every match they play for a while yet
Would it be fair to say that the Boks have a bit of an “aura” about them…? @booboo
@junior said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@machpants said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@frank said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Seriously ? No way.
Totally not serious. He's just desperate for that under dog card. World champion, world number one, lion taming boks are the favourite in every match they play for a while yet
Would it be fair to say that the Boks have a bit of an “aura” about them…? @booboo
Que?
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@nta with all due respect Saffers want to measure against the All Blacks. So don't read to much from Mallet. That 100th test is going to be the test to win. Springboks are weak as favorites.
Oom, one of the intriguing aspects of the 100th match is that we haven’t played the boks for 2 years (September 21 was the date of our our last match) not even the super franchises.
So there is some mystique attached to the boks, a bit like there was in the apartheid era.
Both sides are eager to renew rivalries on the pitch and friendships off it. Winning the 100th will be special.
From a NZ point of view, we feel we are rebuilding a side while the boks have one of their best side in the pro era.
It will be fascinating and let’s hope the match was worth the 2 year wait!
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I honestly didn't even know Quade was still playing rugby. This feels like one of those old stories where some dude was plucked out of reserve grade to start a test on Saturday.
I know you peaked as a coach in 2012 Dave but you can't just keep pretending we're still there.
Quade Cooper. Fuck me dead.
If the Boks drop this I will laugh for an hour.
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Oom, one of the intriguing aspects of the 100th match is that we haven’t played the boks for 2 years (September 21 was the date of our our last match) not even the super franchises.
So there is some mystique attached to the boks, a bit like there was in the apartheid era.
Both sides are eager to renew rivalries on the pitch and friendships off it. Winning the 100th will be special.
From a NZ point of view, we feel we are rebuilding a side while the boks have one of their best side in the pro era.
It will be fascinating and let’s hope the match was worth the 2 year wait!
@junior said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@machpants said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@frank said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Seriously ? No way.
Totally not serious. He's just desperate for that under dog card. World champion, world number one, lion taming boks are the favourite in every match they play for a while yet
Would it be fair to say that the Boks have a bit of an “aura” about them…? @booboo
@dagrubster said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Oom, one of the intriguing aspects of the 100th match is that we haven’t played the boks for 2 years (September 21 was the date of our our last match) not even the super franchises.
So there is some mystique attached to the boks, a bit like there was in the apartheid era.
Both sides are eager to renew rivalries on the pitch and friendships off it. Winning the 100th will be special.
From a NZ point of view, we feel we are rebuilding a side while the boks have one of their best side in the pro era.
It will be fascinating and let’s hope the match was worth the 2 year wait!
Aura and Mystique back together again, but hanging with the wrong crowd.
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Is To'omua injured? I would have thought he could play a similar role to Cooper in this test, and with some recent form on his side.
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Is To'omua injured? I would have thought he could play a similar role to Cooper in this test, and with some recent form on his side.
@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Is To'omua injured? I would have thought he could play a similar role to Cooper in this test, and with some recent form on his side.
He doesn't have any recent form. Fifteen minutes ripping into Bled 1 doesn't offset the rubbish Super season he had playing a rubbish game plan at the Rabble.
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@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Is To'omua injured? I would have thought he could play a similar role to Cooper in this test, and with some recent form on his side.
He doesn't have any recent form. Fifteen minutes ripping into Bled 1 doesn't offset the rubbish Super season he had playing a rubbish game plan at the Rabble.
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@machpants said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@frank said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Seriously ? No way.
Totally not serious. He's just desperate for that under dog card. World champion, world number one, lion taming boks are the favourite in every match they play for a while yet
Would it be fair to say that the Boks have a bit of an “aura” about them…? @booboo
@junior said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@machpants said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@frank said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@oompb said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Very strong Wallabies team. Definitely favorates with Cooper back in 10.
Hope Bok rush defense is on it.
Seriously ? No way.
Totally not serious. He's just desperate for that under dog card. World champion, world number one, lion taming boks are the favourite in every match they play for a while yet
Would it be fair to say that the Boks have a bit of an “aura” about them…? @booboo
Whiff of boerewors?
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@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta But compared to Quade?
Well, yeah... I'm really not sure what is going on with that.
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta But compared to Quade?
Well, yeah... I'm really not sure what is going on with that.
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@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta But compared to Quade?
Well, yeah... I'm really not sure what is going on with that.
@pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta But compared to Quade?
Well, yeah... I'm really not sure what is going on with that.
Decidedly awkward interview but I thought Quade spoke very well (as an aside, his voice-sounds like SBW).
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@pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta But compared to Quade?
Well, yeah... I'm really not sure what is going on with that.
Decidedly awkward interview but I thought Quade spoke very well (as an aside, his voice-sounds like SBW).
@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta But compared to Quade?
Well, yeah... I'm really not sure what is going on with that.
Decidedly awkward interview but I thought Quade spoke very well (as an aside, his voice-sounds like SBW).
He seems to have grown up.
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@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@pakman said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta But compared to Quade?
Well, yeah... I'm really not sure what is going on with that.
Decidedly awkward interview but I thought Quade spoke very well (as an aside, his voice-sounds like SBW).
He seems to have grown up.
@pakman yes. And I think the NZ fanboi reactions and cheapshots (from me too) obscure from his decided entertainment value as a 10. Might still be a defensive liability but has some great skills. Hope he plays well, have not followed his recent games overseas...
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Frankly I thought Quade wasn't as bad as we made him out to be.
But that was mainly because he wasn't as awesome as the Aussie's made him out to be.
I think most of the opprobrium (my current favourite word) directed at him was a direct result of the overrating of him by the Aussie media (particularly the Fox Sport cheerleaders).
Frankly I rate him as one of the better Aussie 10s in recent times.
And he can tackle.
Not sure what his current form is like.
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@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
https://twitter.com/bendarwin/status/1436493786578776067?s=19
What do ex-props know?!
