All Blacks vs Pumas II
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Aumua has a bruised calf, Akira Ioane and Papalii both have "knocks".
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@darren said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
That looks like the worst tight 5 I have seen us put out in a long time.
I really like the front row.
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2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5) - 1st start
3 Tyrel Lomax (9) - 2nd start
5 Tupou Vaa’i (6) - 2nd start
6 Ethan Blackadder (4) - 2nd start
8 Hoskins Sotutu (6) - 3rd start
10 Damian McKenzie (34) - 2nd start at 1st 5
12 Quinn Tupaea (2) - 2nd start
14 Will Jordan (7) - 5th start
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This seems like a make or break test for Hoskins as he appears to have slipped down the pecking order. He’s at best the 3rd 8.
Hopefully he can overcome his second season blues.
@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
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@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
@themojoman said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
Welcome back bro.
Big fan of Sotutu, hope he plays well.
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@themojoman said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
Welcome back bro.
Big fan of Sotutu, hope he plays well.
@act-crusader :thumbs_up: Great to be back!
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@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
@themojoman said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nepia Sotutu is a curious case. IMO he was the or in top 3 Number 8's in Super Rugby but then got surpassed by Jacobson. Now Blackadder has leapt frogged him in the squad due to his versatility.
Went off the boil a little. His appearances in the NPC were underwhelming. Has some good skills though so worth keeping in the mix. He'll come right.
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I just bought tickets for the whole fam for this game so I hope we don't get ambushed by the Pumas.
It's a calculated risk by Foster and co. They had to rotate given the Boks next week but they've got some experience on the bench in Taylor, Tu'ungafasi, Barrett they can call upon of the crap hits the fan. I was at the game last year in Sydney and when things became an arm wrestle the bench wasn't able to turn things around so theres that too.
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@Hooroo to your B team comment, this is where I’d have these players with some conjecture over some of the rankings. Incoming
1 Joe Moody (51) - 1st choice LH
2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5) - 3rd/4th choice Hooker (Coles, Taylor, Aumua(?))
3 Tyrel Lomax (9) - 3rd choice TH (Ofa, Laulala)
4 Patrick Tuipulotu (38) - 4th choice Lock (Whitelock, Retallick, Barrett)
5 Tupou Vaa’i (6) - 5th choice Lock (as above)
6 Ethan Blackadder (4) - 3rd choice Blindside (Ioane, Frizell)
7 Ardie Savea (53) – captain - 2nd/3rd choice Openside (Cane, Papali’i(?))
8 Hoskins Sotutu (6) - 3rd choice No. 8 (Savea, Jacobsen)
9 TJ Perenara (72) - 2nd choice HB (Smith)
10 Damian McKenzie (34) - 3rd choice 1st 5 (Mo’unga, Barrett)
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
12 Quinn Tupaea (2) - 3rd choice 2nd 5 (Havili, Goodhue)
13 Rieko Ioane (41) - 2nd/3rd choice centre (ALB, Goodhue(?))
14 Will Jordan (7) - 2nd choice RW (Reece)
15 Jordie Barrett (29) - 1st choice FB -
@Hooroo to your B team comment, this is where I’d have these players with some conjecture over some of the rankings. Incoming
1 Joe Moody (51) - 1st choice LH
2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5) - 3rd/4th choice Hooker (Coles, Taylor, Aumua(?))
3 Tyrel Lomax (9) - 3rd choice TH (Ofa, Laulala)
4 Patrick Tuipulotu (38) - 4th choice Lock (Whitelock, Retallick, Barrett)
5 Tupou Vaa’i (6) - 5th choice Lock (as above)
6 Ethan Blackadder (4) - 3rd choice Blindside (Ioane, Frizell)
7 Ardie Savea (53) – captain - 2nd/3rd choice Openside (Cane, Papali’i(?))
8 Hoskins Sotutu (6) - 3rd choice No. 8 (Savea, Jacobsen)
9 TJ Perenara (72) - 2nd choice HB (Smith)
10 Damian McKenzie (34) - 3rd choice 1st 5 (Mo’unga, Barrett)
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
12 Quinn Tupaea (2) - 3rd choice 2nd 5 (Havili, Goodhue)
13 Rieko Ioane (41) - 2nd/3rd choice centre (ALB, Goodhue(?))
14 Will Jordan (7) - 2nd choice RW (Reece)
15 Jordie Barrett (29) - 1st choice FB -
@Hooroo to your B team comment, this is where I’d have these players with some conjecture over some of the rankings. Incoming
1 Joe Moody (51) - 1st choice LH
2 Samisoni Taukei’aho (5) - 3rd/4th choice Hooker (Coles, Taylor, Aumua(?))
3 Tyrel Lomax (9) - 3rd choice TH (Ofa, Laulala)
4 Patrick Tuipulotu (38) - 4th choice Lock (Whitelock, Retallick, Barrett)
5 Tupou Vaa’i (6) - 5th choice Lock (as above)
6 Ethan Blackadder (4) - 3rd choice Blindside (Ioane, Frizell)
7 Ardie Savea (53) – captain - 2nd/3rd choice Openside (Cane, Papali’i(?))
8 Hoskins Sotutu (6) - 3rd choice No. 8 (Savea, Jacobsen)
9 TJ Perenara (72) - 2nd choice HB (Smith)
10 Damian McKenzie (34) - 3rd choice 1st 5 (Mo’unga, Barrett)
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
12 Quinn Tupaea (2) - 3rd choice 2nd 5 (Havili, Goodhue)
13 Rieko Ioane (41) - 2nd/3rd choice centre (ALB, Goodhue(?))
14 Will Jordan (7) - 2nd choice RW (Reece)
15 Jordie Barrett (29) - 1st choice FB@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
Reece is ahead of him on that side too, so Ioane, Clarke, Reece, daylight, Bridge.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
Reece is ahead of him on that side too, so Ioane, Clarke, Reece, daylight, Bridge.
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
Reece is ahead of him on that side too, so Ioane, Clarke, Reece, daylight, Bridge.
Clarke is not, he is available for selection and not selected - with his play this year and the fact he did 7s, he's now behind all those other players for this year.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
Reece is ahead of him on that side too, so Ioane, Clarke, Reece, daylight, Bridge.
Clarke is not, he is available for selection and not selected - with his play this year and the fact he did 7s, he's now behind all those other players for this year.
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
Reece is ahead of him on that side too, so Ioane, Clarke, Reece, daylight, Bridge.
Clarke is not, he is available for selection and not selected - with his play this year and the fact he did 7s, he's now behind all those other players for this year.
Hopefully they will add him to squad for the end of year tour.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
Reece is ahead of him on that side too, so Ioane, Clarke, Reece, daylight, Bridge.
Clarke is not, he is available for selection and not selected - with his play this year and the fact he did 7s, he's now behind all those other players for this year.
Hopefully they will add him to squad for the end of year tour.
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
Reece is ahead of him on that side too, so Ioane, Clarke, Reece, daylight, Bridge.
Clarke is not, he is available for selection and not selected - with his play this year and the fact he did 7s, he's now behind all those other players for this year.
Clarke. Hopefully they will add him to squad for the end of year tour.
Maybe, on his play this season I wouldn't. They've got a shortage of numbers, he's well down the list.
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@frye said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
de Groot (if fit) won't get a game until the USA now.
Patrick needs to step up as
the senior lock.a test playerFIFY
When was the last time he got game time? It's incredibly tough to come in cold.
True. Just has a history of being average at this level IMO. For such a big unit he makes little impact. I will concede that every now and then he has a stormer but hasn't been able to put together consistent performances through regular play.
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@frye said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
de Groot (if fit) won't get a game until the USA now.
Patrick needs to step up as
the senior lock.a test playerFIFY
When was the last time he got game time? It's incredibly tough to come in cold.
True. Just has a history of being average at this level IMO. For such a big unit he makes little impact. I will concede that every now and then he has a stormer but hasn't been able to put together consistent performances through regular play.
Yeah, keen to see if Foster can get more out of Pat the same way he has with Akira. I don't think all players really thrived under Hansen in his later years as coach.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
Reece is ahead of him on that side too, so Ioane, Clarke, Reece, daylight, Bridge.
Clarke is not, he is available for selection and not selected - with his play this year and the fact he did 7s, he's now behind all those other players for this year.
Clarke. Hopefully they will add him to squad for the end of year tour.
Maybe, on his play this season I wouldn't. They've got a shortage of numbers, he's well down the list.
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
Reece is ahead of him on that side too, so Ioane, Clarke, Reece, daylight, Bridge.
Clarke is not, he is available for selection and not selected - with his play this year and the fact he did 7s, he's now behind all those other players for this year.
Clarke. Hopefully they will add him to squad for the end of year tour.
Maybe, on his play this season I wouldn't. They've got a shortage of numbers, he's well down the list.
Foster has said in the past players don't go backwards when they are injured. He's over that now, so should be good to go.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
11 George Bridge (14) - 2nd/3rd choice LW (Ioane, Clarke(?))
Reece is ahead of him on that side too, so Ioane, Clarke, Reece, daylight, Bridge.
Clarke is not, he is available for selection and not selected - with his play this year and the fact he did 7s, he's now behind all those other players for this year.
Clarke. Hopefully they will add him to squad for the end of year tour.
Maybe, on his play this season I wouldn't. They've got a shortage of numbers, he's well down the list.
@machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..
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@machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..
@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..
Sigh. He was playing with a misdiagnosed injury.
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..
Sigh. He was playing with a misdiagnosed injury.
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@machpants He was pretty dire in Super rugby. He needs to go and get back some confidence in domestic rugby like Grace Cullen. Huge futures but right now there are better players ahead of them..
Sigh. He was playing with a misdiagnosed injury.
He had an excellent game vs the Highlanders. One of the best games by a winger in SR.
