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All Blacks vs Pumas II

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  • M Machpants

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    Argies are good at spoiling not much else.

    I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.

    Dunno, Argentina are SA lite. Ozzie should smash them

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    @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

    Argies are good at spoiling not much else.

    I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.

    Dunno, Argentina are SA lite. Ozzie should smash them

    Been a great warm up for the boks.

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

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      @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

      Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

      Yep, because in addition to the negatives mentioned here, he was also responsible for most tackles made, most offloads, won a turnover and had a massive positive role in the lead-up to some of the tries.

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      • M Machpants

        @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        Argies are good at spoiling not much else.

        I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.

        Dunno, Argentina are SA lite. Ozzie should smash them

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        #831

        @machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

        Argies are good at spoiling not much else.

        I can see that spoiling approach frustrating the Aussies. Their defensive system is pretty sound. We looked good when we got our offload game going. That will be key for the Aussies.

        Dunno, Argentina are SA lite. Ozzie should smash them

        I know it’s somewhat difficult to compare games but from an armchair view, Argentina played with more pace and endeavour than the Boks did.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.

          Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

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          @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

          Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.

          Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

          Could tell him to picture the opposition wearing dresses? Might end up with a red card though.

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

            @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

            Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.

            Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

            Could tell him to picture the opposition wearing dresses? Might end up with a red card though.

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            Bones
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            @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

            @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

            @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

            Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.

            Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

            Could tell him to picture the opposition wearing dresses? Might end up with a red card though.

            Mitigating circumstances, let off with a warning.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              Really am annoyed by Fakatava's injury right now.

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              @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

              Really am annoyed by Fakatava's injury right now.

              I forgot about him 😞

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                Yep, because in addition to the negatives mentioned here, he was also responsible for most tackles made, most offloads, won a turnover and had a massive positive role in the lead-up to some of the tries.

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                @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                Yep, because in addition to the negatives mentioned here, he was also responsible for most tackles made, most offloads, won a turnover and had a massive positive role in the lead-up to some of the tries.

                Five missed tackles and four penalties would lose us a game against better opposition.

                He was busy, but not good.

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                  Anyway, Taukei'aho should start.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                    @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                    Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                    Yep, because in addition to the negatives mentioned here, he was also responsible for most tackles made, most offloads, won a turnover and had a massive positive role in the lead-up to some of the tries.

                    Five missed tackles and four penalties would lose us a game against better opposition.

                    He was busy, but not good.

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                    @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                    four penalties

                    Gunning for Laulala's record!

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                      Christie’s actual pass seems a lot more swifter and crisp than TJ’s but his inexperience to manage the play showed tonight. The time and space is less and he seems to fluff around at the back too often.

                      Early days though.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        Christie’s actual pass seems a lot more swifter and crisp than TJ’s but his inexperience to manage the play showed tonight. The time and space is less and he seems to fluff around at the back too often.

                        Early days though.

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                        @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                        Christie’s actual pass seems a lot more swifter and crisp than TJ’s but his inexperience to manage the play showed tonight. The time and space is less and he seems to fluff around at the back too often.

                        Early days though.

                        Yeah, when he was getting the pass away, there was a noticeable difference. But the rest...

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                          https://twitter.com/rugbycology/status/1439198587338903552

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                          • KirwanK Kirwan

                            @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                            Yep, because in addition to the negatives mentioned here, he was also responsible for most tackles made, most offloads, won a turnover and had a massive positive role in the lead-up to some of the tries.

                            Five missed tackles and four penalties would lose us a game against better opposition.

                            He was busy, but not good.

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                            @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            @stargazer said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            @nepia said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                            Let's not completely throw the baby out with the bathwater with Blackadder. If he can improve his accuracy he'll be a useful squad option going forward.

                            Yep, because in addition to the negatives mentioned here, he was also responsible for most tackles made, most offloads, won a turnover and had a massive positive role in the lead-up to some of the tries.

                            Five missed tackles and four penalties would lose us a game against better opposition.

                            He was busy, but not good.

                            And whilst @Stargazer is right about those other stats (from ESPN, I assume), the difference between his positive ones (3 offloads versus 2 to the next three people, 12 tackles made versus 10 to the next three pkayers) and his negatives (5 missed versus 2 for next person and 4 penalties versus 1 for the next) mean that his inaccuracy is a big work on.

                            I think he has a big future, but @Kirwan has a good point here, those positives don't outweigh the negatives.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                              Would have ahead of Frizzell obviously.

                              Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

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                              @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                              Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

                              Blackadder doesn't knock out teeth as well as Frizell.

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                              • F Frank

                                @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

                                Blackadder doesn't knock out teeth as well as Frizell.

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                                @frank said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

                                Blackadder doesn't knock out teeth as well as Frizell.

                                Prove it

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                                • F Frank

                                  @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                  Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

                                  Blackadder doesn't knock out teeth as well as Frizell.

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                                  @frank said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                  @bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                  Yeah can't see Frizzel doing much different than Blackadder, so give Blackadder the same chances.

                                  Blackadder doesn't knock out teeth as well as Frizell.

                                  You say that like it's a bad thing.

                                  Too soon?

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                                    Old Samurai Jack
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                                    Just been over the comments after watching the game. All I can say is that provincialism is alive and well!

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                                    • O Old Samurai Jack

                                      Just been over the comments after watching the game. All I can say is that provincialism is alive and well!

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                                      @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                      Just been over the comments after watching the game. All I can say is that provincialism is alive and well!

                                      What makes ya say that?

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                                        #847

                                        Despite the bombed tries this team was looking very slick until the changes were rung at about 48min. Weren't the same afterwards. Crap use of the bench all round actually.

                                        Top game by TJP. Looked very good. Moody has a great physical presence. Bridge didn't do anything wrong but he's pretty toothless. Jordie looked very good until that weird brain fart. Actually he was outstanding. Very involved and safe as houses under the high ball.

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                                        • O Old Samurai Jack

                                          Just been over the comments after watching the game. All I can say is that provincialism is alive and well!

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                                          #848

                                          @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                          Just been over the comments after watching the game. All I can say is that provincialism is alive and well!

                                          Some of the one-eyed stuff is pretty deplorable. Check this idiot out

                                          @act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:

                                          Moody, Blackadder, Bridge and Jordan have been very good.

                                          Ennor and Scott Barrett warm ups have also been exceptional.

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