All Blacks vs Pumas II
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@chris said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Calling for the end to his career as a couple of people did last night was over the top,
That was me, and I wasn't saying he should never play again. I was saying that stupidly giving a pointless penalty straight after a score to let the opposition back in the game is an act that gives coaches the shits. It is the sort of thing that make coaches say Yeah, Nah - a career ending level of stupidity if that is the norm. He was not under pressure, and neither were the ABs. He's lucky Eddie wasn't coach! He has a great engine but made far too many mistakes.
Commentators and mainstream media seem to rate players on the number of times they mention their name, rather than accuracy and intelligent play. Means those grafters who are core to good test match rugby are often under rated, and those that are here there and everywhere get the points. DMac very much in this mold, normally. Rated high when really he causes his team a load of problems with the flashy shit. Not this game tho.
So yeah Ethan is a late starter at 26 and need sto get his accuracy up to feature more. Hopefully he will.
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Calling for the end to his career as a couple of people did last night was over the top,
That was me, and I wasn't saying he should never play again. I was saying that stupidly giving a pointless penalty straight after a score to let the opposition back in the game is an act that gives coaches the shits. It is the sort of thing that make coaches say Yeah, Nah. He's lucky Eddie wasn't coach! He has a great engine but made far too many mistakes.
Commentators and mainstream media seem to rate players on the number of times they mention their name, rather than accuracy and intelligent play. Means those grafters who are core to good test match rugby are often under rated, and those that are here there and everywhere get the points. DMac very much in this mold, normally. Rated high when really he causes his team a load of problems with the flashy shit. Not this game tho.
So yeah Ethan is a late starter at 26 and need sto get his accuracy up to feature more
Seems a reasonable post,I don't disagree with all your points.But Blackadder is a wait and see if he fine tunes his game to grow as a 6.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Hell of an effort from Vaa'i to go 80, but the only time I've "seen" him is when he's dotting down. Struggling with if that's a good thing or not.
He's not much of a presence eh.
Can't say I've noticed him carrying much. Seems to be used as support.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Hell of an effort from Vaa'i to go 80, but the only time I've "seen" him is when he's dotting down. Struggling with if that's a good thing or not.
He's not much of a presence eh.
Can't say I've noticed him carrying much. Seems to be used as support.
Vaa'i was being used as a distributor with those short passes in the midfield. But he did have more carries and run metres than Tuipulotu.
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@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points
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@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points
Haha so the Boks play Australia in Australia and World Rugby consider it a home game for the Boks.
I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly. Who cares where the game was originally scheduled to be played 6 months ago
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Not unusual for a loose forward to get caught out of position on defense in their first season of test rugby. Happened with Papalii a few times, but now he's a gun.
Blackadder had some good impact, but has noticeably missed tackles in his previous outings. Nothing wrong with his technique, rather his positioning. He will likely improve.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points
Haha so the Boks play Australia in Australia and World Rugby consider it a home game for the Boks.
I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly. Who cares where the game was originally scheduled to be played 6 months ago
@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points
Haha so the Boks play Australia in Australia and World Rugby consider it a home game for the Boks.
I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly. Who cares where the game was originally scheduled to be played 6 months ago
We'll find out on Monday, if we are world 1, then that is what has happened for the rankings If not, WR have at least 2 brain cells to rub together.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points
Haha so the Boks play Australia in Australia and World Rugby consider it a home game for the Boks.
I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly. Who cares where the game was originally scheduled to be played 6 months ago
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@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly.
Rugby administrators making a bollocks of their competitions?
I find that extremely hard to believe.
@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly.
Rugby administrators making a bollocks of their competitions?
I find that extremely hard to believe.
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Anyone know what the actual rule on picking up the ball from inside a ruck is? Do you just need something behind that last foot? Because ruling one out last week and letting it stand this week is a bad look for world rugby.
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@african-monkey nice post. Agree about Blackadder compared with options out there except maybe the Ginger.
Agree about the hookers. I think Taylor’s form has dropped as well and with the go forward with ST and AA it means we are on the front foot more. Lineouts I don’t remember being a problem yesterday.
Agree with Dmac covering on the bench. JB to start.
TV and Lomax were pretty good and I am with you in him replacing PT.
Understand the safety of Bridge but you lost me there. Did not do anything wrong but not in my starting 23.
@broughie On Bridge, yeah, I wouldn't usually have him in my 23, but against a team that likes to put the ball up, I think he may be a good option. As I said, not really a fan of his, but I can understand why if he does get the nod for the boks with De Klerk, Pollard and Le Roux putting a lot of bombs up.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Anyone know what the actual rule on picking up the ball from inside a ruck is? Do you just need something behind that last foot? Because ruling one out last week and letting it stand this week is a bad look for world rugby.
From the most recent Game Management Guidelines:
"At a tackle, a player can pick up the ball as long as one foot is level with or behind the ball. At a ruck, a
player can pick up the ball as long as both feet are level with or behind the ball. If a player is still bound
with an opponent, then they cannot pick up the ball."So if there is no ruck, one foot. If it's a ruck and you're not bound to an opponent, two feet.
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One thing that has impressed me about this coaching staff is the ability to get players to have their error rate lower than Super Rugby.
Samisoni, QT (before he gassed out), Jordie, Akira (didn't play last night but in earlier games), Lomax etc.
A lot more accurate in black.
