All Blacks vs Springboks I
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@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-three-key-all-blacks-selections-as-they-take-on-the-springboks/
What game did the writer watch?
"Braydon Ennor is percolating nicely in his return from a couple of debilitating setbacks in the last year. He came off the bench and looked the part and isn’t far away from being thrown a start."
Eh? The guy did SFA.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
having watched teh last two Bok tests it would be an enormously stupid error to pick an inferior all-round player just to negate one part of what the opposition does, and not look to making more of what we do well.
I wouldn't have Bridge in the 23, he is unnecessary.
We have a team full of finishers. We want someone who can create the opportunities.
well put, i really do miss people like B & C smith (and obviously others), sure they finished a lot themselves but i most fondly remember them just making those breaks/half beaks that then had two or three other feed off and finish
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
having watched teh last two Bok tests it would be an enormously stupid error to pick an inferior all-round player just to negate one part of what the opposition does, and not look to making more of what we do well.
I wouldn't have Bridge in the 23, he is unnecessary.
We have a team full of finishers. We want someone who can create the opportunities.
well put, i really do miss people like B & C smith (and obviously others), sure they finished a lot themselves but i most fondly remember them just making those breaks/half beaks that then had two or three other feed off and finish
Our current four wings are scoring tries at almost unprecedented rates.
Rieko 30/42
Even the much maligned George 12/15
Will 11/8
Sevu 10/13TOTAL 63 tries 78 tests 0.8 tries per test.
Doug Howlett got 49/62 at 0.79
Cully got 46/58 at 0.79
Goldie got 44/60 at 0.73
Big Jules got 46/64at 0.72
Joe Rok got 46/69 at 0.66
Jonah got 37/63 at 0.58
Bender got 39/84 at 0.46
Tana got 36/74 at 0.48 -
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
having watched teh last two Bok tests it would be an enormously stupid error to pick an inferior all-round player just to negate one part of what the opposition does, and not look to making more of what we do well.
I wouldn't have Bridge in the 23, he is unnecessary.
Cough* 2019 SF Cough*
Maybe we could try a Barrett at 6 as well?
That one sentence is enough to trigger most of the fern.
I'm now wondering who the non triggered are. Surely even the Cantabs wouldn't want him at 6?
@nepia I maintain the biggest issue with playing SB at 6, was the fact we carried on with the game plan we'd have had if Cane was out there rather than using SBs stregnth, BBBR was woefuly out of form too...
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@Chris-B if it wasn't for the knee injuries Cully would have been closer to 1.
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@nepia I maintain the biggest issue with playing SB at 6, was the fact we carried on with the game plan we'd have had if Cane was out there rather than using SBs stregnth, BBBR was woefuly out of form too...
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
...BBBR was woefuly out of form too...
BBBR was coming back from injury. This season has shown he needs a few games to really hit his straps, and dominate.
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@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@act-crusader ya reckon? If he's unfit I can't see it not being Bridge/Jordie/Reece.
Ugh, I just threw up a wee bit.
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@act-crusader ya reckon? If he's unfit I can't see it not being Bridge/Jordie/Reece.
Ugh, I just threw up a wee bit.
I see what you mean, I still have nightmares about the RWC game against England where both Reece and Bridge were quickly shut down. I'd rather both don't start together, picking one is fine. Reece has high workrate, Bridge slower but safer.
But one of Jordan or RIoane on the wing please. -
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
A typo or two aside ( Taylor’s r?r? (physical strength) ) I really enjoyed that article. Thanks. Good to see a sports journalist can also be a sharp dress man.
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@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-three-key-all-blacks-selections-as-they-take-on-the-springboks/
What game did the writer watch?
"Braydon Ennor is percolating nicely in his return from a couple of debilitating setbacks in the last year. He came off the bench and looked the part and isn’t far away from being thrown a start."
Eh? The guy did SFA.
@crucial had a nice show of hands but I hardly saw him..looks a bit lightweight for centre IMO..hope to be proven wrong cos the coaches love him...
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@crucial Being a Cantab automatically means that you played well......
@african-monkey said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@crucial Being a Cantab automatically means that your fans believe you played well......
FIFY
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
having watched teh last two Bok tests it would be an enormously stupid error to pick an inferior all-round player just to negate one part of what the opposition does, and not look to making more of what we do well.
I wouldn't have Bridge in the 23, he is unnecessary.
We have a team full of finishers. We want someone who can create the opportunities.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
having watched teh last two Bok tests it would be an enormously stupid error to pick an inferior all-round player just to negate one part of what the opposition does, and not look to making more of what we do well.
I wouldn't have Bridge in the 23, he is unnecessary.
We have a team full of finishers. We want someone who can create the opportunities.
the last game I saw Bridge in he only created a lot of rucks, by being tackled.
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@crucial had a nice show of hands but I hardly saw him..looks a bit lightweight for centre IMO..hope to be proven wrong cos the coaches love him...
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@crucial had a nice show of hands but I hardly saw him..looks a bit lightweight for centre IMO..hope to be proven wrong cos the coaches love him...
About the same weight as ALB 95kg v 96 kg Ennor slightly taller 187cm to 185cm.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@crucial had a nice show of hands but I hardly saw him..looks a bit lightweight for centre IMO..hope to be proven wrong cos the coaches love him...
About the same weight as ALB 95kg v 96 kg Ennor slightly taller 187cm to 185cm.
@chris I'm surprised ALB is so light.
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@chris I'm surprised ALB is so light.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@chris I'm surprised ALB is so light.
Yeah me too to be honest.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
...BBBR was woefuly out of form too...
BBBR was coming back from injury. This season has shown he needs a few games to really hit his straps, and dominate.
@nzzp out of form none the less...
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
having watched teh last two Bok tests it would be an enormously stupid error to pick an inferior all-round player just to negate one part of what the opposition does, and not look to making more of what we do well.
I wouldn't have Bridge in the 23, he is unnecessary.
Cough* 2019 SF Cough*
Maybe we could try a Barrett at 6 as well?
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
having watched teh last two Bok tests it would be an enormously stupid error to pick an inferior all-round player just to negate one part of what the opposition does, and not look to making more of what we do well.
I wouldn't have Bridge in the 23, he is unnecessary.
Cough* 2019 SF Cough*
Maybe we could try a Barrett at 6 as well?
Jordie, he has the height…
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@crucial had a nice show of hands but I hardly saw him..looks a bit lightweight for centre IMO..hope to be proven wrong cos the coaches love him...
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
looks a bit lightweight for centre
Huh, go figure. I don't see him as smaller than any of our other midfielders.
But if being too "lightweight" gets him back on the wing where he's a much more dangerous player, then I'll back it.
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@nepia I maintain the biggest issue with playing SB at 6, was the fact we carried on with the game plan we'd have had if Cane was out there rather than using SBs stregnth, BBBR was woefuly out of form too...
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nepia I maintain the biggest issue with playing SB at 6, was the fact we carried on with the game plan we'd have had if Cane was out there rather than using SBs stregnth, BBBR was woefuly out of form too...
Don't throw some shade on the Magpie while defending the Cantab Mr Taniwha.
SB could have at least won a lineout or two.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@tim I don't think anyone will cry into their cornflakes if we're "forced" to go with Ioane/Savea/Jacobson and Blackadder/Sotutu eh.
6/7/8 seems to be the one area we really don't need to worry too much about.
Would like ALB back though.
Yep. But I'm much less concerned now Reiko has some game time under his belt
Would still be a bit concerned if we ended up with DMac/Tuapea/Rieko in tight match with Boks. We’re still quite short on Backline ‘grey hair’.
Agreed, I was thinking more of BB/DH/RI.
That said, I want to see more DMac/Tuapea/Rieko playing together to build that experience.
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@tim I don't think anyone will cry into their cornflakes if we're "forced" to go with Ioane/Savea/Jacobson and Blackadder/Sotutu eh.
6/7/8 seems to be the one area we really don't need to worry too much about.
Would like ALB back though.
Yep. But I'm much less concerned now Reiko has some game time under his belt
Would still be a bit concerned if we ended up with DMac/Tuapea/Rieko in tight match with Boks. We’re still quite short on Backline ‘grey hair’.
Agreed, I was thinking more of BB/DH/RI.
That said, I want to see more DMac/Tuapea/Rieko playing together to build that experience.
My concern is that with no ALB in 23 we are quite vulnerable to an injury.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
looks a bit lightweight for centre
Huh, go figure. I don't see him as smaller than any of our other midfielders.
But if being too "lightweight" gets him back on the wing where he's a much more dangerous player, then I'll back it.
@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
looks a bit lightweight for centre
Huh, go figure. I don't see him as smaller than any of our other midfielders.
But if being too "lightweight" gets him back on the wing where he's a much more dangerous player, then I'll back it.
I'm happy to be proven wrong, and it's just based off a camera to the side, his neck didn't look as thick and robust as other midfielders (built up for collisions)...I didn't notice any weakness or frailty in tackling or running but I didn't see very much of him on camera...
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@chris I'm surprised ALB is so light.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@chris I'm surprised ALB is so light.
tipping the scales at 102 i believe they had on the sky thingy they had on him
