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All Blacks vs Springboks I

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    Could be bad news for the Boks. They're going through what must be a crisis of confidence considering their A gameplan isn't working. And it would be a pretty bad idea to try a different gameplan against the All Blacks (of all sides), especially attempting a game that could involve playing wider.

    So they might be stuck somewhere in between. And an indecisive Springbok team is not exactly a dangerous Springbok team.

    Their best hope is that they find an emotional gear they haven't found since the Lions. Which they're capable of but still, if their execution is lacking it could be a loong day at the office.

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    • F Frye

      Could be bad news for the Boks. They're going through what must be a crisis of confidence considering their A gameplan isn't working. And it would be a pretty bad idea to try a different gameplan against the All Blacks (of all sides), especially attempting a game that could involve playing wider.

      So they might be stuck somewhere in between. And an indecisive Springbok team is not exactly a dangerous Springbok team.

      Their best hope is that they find an emotional gear they haven't found since the Lions. Which they're capable of but still, if their execution is lacking it could be a loong day at the office.

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      @frye said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

      Could be bad news for the Boks. They're going through what must be a crisis of confidence considering their A gameplan isn't working. And it would be a pretty bad idea to try a different gameplan against the All Blacks (of all sides), especially attempting a game that could involve playing wider.

      So they might be stuck somewhere in between. And an indecisive Springbok team is not exactly a dangerous Springbok team.

      Their best hope is that they find an emotional gear they haven't found since the Lions. Which they're capable of but still, if their execution is lacking it could be a loong day at the office.

      I think they tried their arm a little Vs Wallabies in the second game. I think all this talk of 'lost their soul' etc means they will go even harder into their Vs lions gamelan

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        I'm a bit concerned with ALB and Papalii missing and the back 3 selection. Would have preferred Reece to Jordan. And didn't think Pat T had earned a place. Hopefully it motivates him because we have a high energy bench that could run boks off their feet.

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          I'm amazed to find that Scott Barrett has nearly 50 tests under his belt. And we still think of him as the journeyman.

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            NZRU can pat itself on the back. That course they sent Foster on during the off-season “Selecting 101” was money well spent. In particular the chapter of the textbook by SF Forum “why Jordie Barrett is not an international wing” is now regarded as a classic of the genre.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @act-crusader apart from injuries that's a bloody decent team. Can't wait to see how that loose forward trio works together against a bigger Springbok pack. I'm glad they've stayed with the Jordie / Jordan combo because that will only get better with time.

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              @canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

              Can't wait to see how that loose forward trio works together against a bigger Springbok pack.

              What?

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                @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                i dont mind it

                Me neither. Loosies possibly better than if Ardie was at 8 and at least Blackadder is in form.

                Would have been nicer to have ALB with RI on the wing but the combo has at least had plenty of time.

                As much as Bridge offers little in attack except linking he is a tidy player to tidy up the attempts to gain territory.

                Have to say that a year ago a good 23 without ALB, Whitelock, Mounga and Smith would have looked a big stretch. This looks pretty good so hats off to the coaching team for getting things in order. Let's hope they now play well.

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                @crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                As much as Bridge offers little in attack except linking he is a tidy player to tidy up the attempts to gain territory.

                What?

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
                  The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

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                  @chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                  Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
                  The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

                  So ya reckon Fozzie is secretly on holiday?

                  Maybe at fat club?

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                    Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
                    The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

                    So ya reckon Fozzie is secretly on holiday?

                    Maybe at fat club?

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                    @bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                    @chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                    Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
                    The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

                    So ya reckon Fozzie is secretly on holiday?

                    Maybe at fat club?

                    I am starting to think he is on a diet and thinking straight.
                    He is getting more right than I thought he would ( That hurts saying that,I feel dirty.)

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                      Yeah can't be upset with the team.

                      Not sold on Jordan yet, his "issues" are the kind that could really be exposed by the Bokke, so hopefully his improvement arc continues and they're almost gone.

                      Patty T is usually decent off the bench - if possible I'd throw a handy sum on him to steal the first lineout after he comes on.

                      Hope Ofa is back up to speed after last week. Deadly front row change.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        Yeah can't be upset with the team.

                        Not sold on Jordan yet, his "issues" are the kind that could really be exposed by the Bokke, so hopefully his improvement arc continues and they're almost gone.

                        Patty T is usually decent off the bench - if possible I'd throw a handy sum on him to steal the first lineout after he comes on.

                        Hope Ofa is back up to speed after last week. Deadly front row change.

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                        @bones im hoping hes one of those players that level up when playing the best

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @bones im hoping hes one of those players that level up when playing the best

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                          @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                          @bones im hoping hes one of those players that level up when playing the best

                          I'll take a guess you're talking Jordan? That would be bloody cool if so. I'm still uneasy.

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                            On the subject of Jordan, it's been good to see him improving his passing game. Something he hasn't shown too much of at the Crusaders so far. Hats off to the coaching team for that.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                              Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
                              The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

                              So ya reckon Fozzie is secretly on holiday?

                              Maybe at fat club?

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                              @bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                              @chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                              Good team selection I think,Taking into account injuries etc.
                              The selection looks like it has been well thought out to combat the Boks usual game plan.

                              So ya reckon Fozzie is secretly on holiday?

                              Maybe at fat club?

                              Careful. Some ferners get upset with constant Fozzie fat jokes. Not me though, keep em coming !

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                                I'm a bit concerned with ALB and Papalii missing and the back 3 selection. Would have preferred Reece to Jordan. And didn't think Pat T had earned a place. Hopefully it motivates him because we have a high energy bench that could run boks off their feet.

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                                @arhs said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                                And didn't think Pat T had earned a place. Hopefully it motivates him because we have a high energy bench that could run boks off their feet.

                                Being an impact sub off the bench is his best role. High energy for 20 mins.

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                                  Interesting comments by Foz about the bench and picking those who had played the Boks before.

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                                    If this was 2020...

                                    1. Joe Moody (52)
                                    2. Codie Taylor (62)
                                    3. Nepo Laulala (35)
                                    4. Brodie Retallick (87)
                                    5. Scott Barrett (46)
                                    6. Ardie Savea (54) – captain
                                    7. Akira Ioane (8)
                                    8. Luke Jacobson (9)
                                    9. TJ Perenara (73)
                                    10. Beauden Barrett (96)
                                    11. Will Jordan (8)
                                    12. Rieko Ioane (42)
                                    13. David Havili (9)
                                    14. Jordie Barrett (30)
                                    15. George Bridge (15)
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                                      If this was 2020...

                                      1. Joe Moody (52)
                                      2. Codie Taylor (62)
                                      3. Nepo Laulala (35)
                                      4. Brodie Retallick (87)
                                      5. Scott Barrett (46)
                                      6. Ardie Savea (54) – captain
                                      7. Akira Ioane (8)
                                      8. Luke Jacobson (9)
                                      9. TJ Perenara (73)
                                      10. Beauden Barrett (96)
                                      11. Will Jordan (8)
                                      12. Rieko Ioane (42)
                                      13. David Havili (9)
                                      14. Jordie Barrett (30)
                                      15. George Bridge (15)
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                                      @billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                                      If this was 2020...

                                      1. Joe Moody (52)
                                      2. Codie Taylor (62)
                                      3. Nepo Laulala (35)
                                      4. Brodie Retallick (87)
                                      5. Scott Barrett (46)
                                      6. Ardie Savea (54) – captain
                                      7. Akira Ioane (8)
                                      8. Luke Jacobson (9)
                                      9. TJ Perenara (73)
                                      10. Beauden Barrett (96)
                                      11. Will Jordan (8)
                                      12. Rieko Ioane (42)
                                      13. David Havili (9)
                                      14. Jordie Barrett (30)
                                      15. George Bridge (15)

                                      Bridge getting to inject the playmaking skills from the back…..I like it.

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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                                        Jesus there some clueless comments here, not all of them, but these leapt out. More stuff to be up on the changing room walls 😜

                                        This is not the same team that won the World Cup. Let's be very clear on that. They've lost a number of their players who have headed off overseas

                                        SA freely pick from anywhere

                                        And two years ago, they were playing a lot more open and expansive rugby than this team is showing us this year."

                                        Obviously didn't watch the semi versus Wales

                                        The fullback is fine; Willie le Roux is a very good player

                                        Was

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-championship-former-all-blacks-coach-laurie-mains-reveals-reasons-behind-springboks-decline

                                        Is.
                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-championship-former-all-blacks-coach-laurie-mains-reveals-reasons-behind-springboks-decline/NGCSTIXCTDWPQ56G4FNNO5ELSQ/
                                        "Willie le Roux is a very good player"

                                        “Willie le Roux was a very good player” he has been average for quite sometime

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                                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                                        Jesus there some clueless comments here, not all of them, but these leapt out. More stuff to be up on the changing room walls 😜

                                        This is not the same team that won the World Cup. Let's be very clear on that. They've lost a number of their players who have headed off overseas

                                        SA freely pick from anywhere

                                        And two years ago, they were playing a lot more open and expansive rugby than this team is showing us this year."

                                        Obviously didn't watch the semi versus Wales

                                        The fullback is fine; Willie le Roux is a very good player

                                        Was

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-championship-former-all-blacks-coach-laurie-mains-reveals-reasons-behind-springboks-decline

                                        Is.
                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-championship-former-all-blacks-coach-laurie-mains-reveals-reasons-behind-springboks-decline/NGCSTIXCTDWPQ56G4FNNO5ELSQ/
                                        "Willie le Roux is a very good player"

                                        “Willie le Roux was a very good player” he has been average for quite sometime

                                        oh not arguing with that, I just couldn't find Mains saying that, he blamed the centre, props..

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                                          @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

                                          Jesus there some clueless comments here, not all of them, but these leapt out. More stuff to be up on the changing room walls 😜

                                          This is not the same team that won the World Cup. Let's be very clear on that. They've lost a number of their players who have headed off overseas

                                          SA freely pick from anywhere

                                          And two years ago, they were playing a lot more open and expansive rugby than this team is showing us this year."

                                          Obviously didn't watch the semi versus Wales

                                          The fullback is fine; Willie le Roux is a very good player

                                          Was

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-championship-former-all-blacks-coach-laurie-mains-reveals-reasons-behind-springboks-decline

                                          Is.
                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-championship-former-all-blacks-coach-laurie-mains-reveals-reasons-behind-springboks-decline/NGCSTIXCTDWPQ56G4FNNO5ELSQ/
                                          "Willie le Roux is a very good player"

                                          “Willie le Roux was a very good player” he has been average for quite sometime

                                          oh not arguing with that, I just couldn't find Mains saying that, he blamed the centre, props..

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                                          3 Barretts starting. Only second group of 3 brothers to be ABs?
                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-12-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-amazing-barrett-boys/NYDJEFQMPD4NYTT3HPSAVO655I/

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