All Blacks vs Springboks II
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fuck i love All Black fans
Not 7 days ago this site was awash with how good the selecting was, how maybe we needed to come around on Fozzie based on the improvement in play, and in players, and the new depth we had created
A week later, after a game we fucking won, and it's "get rid of the guy who last week was the long term answer at 6" and "oh we all knew this was coming with Foster he's shit"
We are fucking insufferable. Well, not me, mainly yous
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
fuck i love All Black fans
Not 7 days ago this site was awash with how good the selecting was, how maybe we needed to come around on Fozzie based on the improvement in play, and in players, and the new depth we had created
A week later, after a game we fucking won, and it's "get rid of the guy who last week was the long term answer at 6" and "oh we all knew this was coming with Foster he's shit"
We are fucking insufferable. Well, not me, mainly yous
i have a different recollection...there was more of an acknowledgement he had finally started picking sides most of us would be been picking last year, more of a "well done" to the slow kid in class when they did something good
and then we saw he may have picked an acceptable team but he forget to give them a game plan
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fuck i love All Black fans
Not 7 days ago this site was awash with how good the selecting was, how maybe we needed to come around on Fozzie based on the improvement in play, and in players, and the new depth we had created
A week later, after a game we fucking won, and it's "get rid of the guy who last week was the long term answer at 6" and "oh we all knew this was coming with Foster he's shit"
We are fucking insufferable. Well, not me, mainly yous
@mariner4life And once again, we won!
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@stargazer said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Jesus I bet you creamed your pants when you saw them post that
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@crucial I think Lionel Richie wrote that song for Faf De Klerk:
I long to see the sunlight in my hair
And tell myself time and time again how much I kick into the air
Sometimes I feel the tryline is too far to go
Hello, I've just got to let my backline know
'Cause I wonder where you are and I wonder what you do
Are you somewhere feeling lonely as I never kick to you?
Tell me how to win the game for I haven't got a clue
But let me start by saying, oh hang on, someone's injured.. -
fuck i love All Black fans
Not 7 days ago this site was awash with how good the selecting was, how maybe we needed to come around on Fozzie based on the improvement in play, and in players, and the new depth we had created
A week later, after a game we fucking won, and it's "get rid of the guy who last week was the long term answer at 6" and "oh we all knew this was coming with Foster he's shit"
We are fucking insufferable. Well, not me, mainly yous
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
fuck i love All Black fans
Not 7 days ago this site was awash with how good the selecting was, how maybe we needed to come around on Fozzie based on the improvement in play, and in players, and the new depth we had created
A week later, after a game we fucking won, and it's "get rid of the guy who last week was the long term answer at 6" and "oh we all knew this was coming with Foster he's shit"
We are fucking insufferable. Well, not me, mainly yous
F*ck me, a harsh crowd of revisionists. I suspected (70%+) this would be a scrappy dogfight influenced by the refereeing style like the 2015 RWC SF and won by a single score. It was, and the ABs won -
- Without 4-5 pretty automatic starters depending on Paps vs Sam Cane (touch n go, they're not dissimilar)?
- Having definitely uncovered a set of new/raw talent 2 years out from the next world cup, way more upside than the Boks?
- In a game for sure that the Boks were up for 110%?
- ABs playing badly by all acounts ...
- With novice leadership?
Tough crowd. That 2013 unbeaten side had some squeaky-bum moments and brainfarts along the way. Just about to watch a full replay.
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So assuming ALB's fitness, if we slot him back to 13, it makes the 'dropping' of Bridge (out of 23) less of an issue, because is pushed out by the best 11 anyway.
As Jacobson was sickness, assume he is back, so Ardie goes to 7, Luke to 8 and Akira stays at 6.
I reckon Webber deserves a start, not sure there is a case for looking good v a tiring Bok defence, they never got out of 2nd gear and with all the breaks, how could they get tired
Which then goes to the bench: Paps in for Blackadder, Mounga will likely come in for Tupaea.
Otherwise same 23 I think...I cant see them resting anyone given it is the last game of TRC (unless they feel someone is farked)
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So assuming ALB's fitness, if we slot him back to 13, it makes the 'dropping' of Bridge (out of 23) less of an issue, because is pushed out by the best 11 anyway.
As Jacobson was sickness, assume he is back, so Ardie goes to 7, Luke to 8 and Akira stays at 6.
I reckon Webber deserves a start, not sure there is a case for looking good v a tiring Bok defence, they never got out of 2nd gear and with all the breaks, how could they get tired
Which then goes to the bench: Paps in for Blackadder, Mounga will likely come in for Tupaea.
Otherwise same 23 I think...I cant see them resting anyone given it is the last game of TRC (unless they feel someone is farked)
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
So assuming ALB's fitness, if we slot him back to 13, it makes the 'dropping' of Bridge (out of 23) less of an issue, because is pushed out by the best 11 anyway.
As Jacobson was sickness, assume he is back, so Ardie goes to 7, Luke to 8 and Akira stays at 6.
I reckon Webber deserves a start, not sure there is a case for looking good v a tiring Bok defence, they never got out of 2nd gear and with all the breaks, how could they get tired
Which then goes to the bench: Paps in for Blackadder, Mounga will likely come in for Tupaea.
Otherwise same 23 I think...I cant see them resting anyone given it is the last game of TRC (unless they feel someone is farked)
pretty much but i would have richie in for Dmac and either keep quinn or have reece on the bench
seems harsh to drop blackadder as if not for jordie i thought he was almost MotM...but not sure how else to make it work
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
So assuming ALB's fitness, if we slot him back to 13, it makes the 'dropping' of Bridge (out of 23) less of an issue, because is pushed out by the best 11 anyway.
As Jacobson was sickness, assume he is back, so Ardie goes to 7, Luke to 8 and Akira stays at 6.
I reckon Webber deserves a start, not sure there is a case for looking good v a tiring Bok defence, they never got out of 2nd gear and with all the breaks, how could they get tired
Which then goes to the bench: Paps in for Blackadder, Mounga will likely come in for Tupaea.
Otherwise same 23 I think...I cant see them resting anyone given it is the last game of TRC (unless they feel someone is farked)
pretty much but i would have richie in for Dmac and either keep quinn or have reece on the bench
seems harsh to drop blackadder as if not for jordie i thought he was almost MotM...but not sure how else to make it work
@kiwiwomble i think with Reiko as the back up 13, ALB can go to 12, plus they loves them some Dmac so that's why Mounga comes in for Quinn for me.
I think Paps will be more suited to a tight forward battle, while Ethan played well, I think Paps plays with a shade more size, even though I don't think there is much between them.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
So assuming ALB's fitness, if we slot him back to 13, it makes the 'dropping' of Bridge (out of 23) less of an issue, because is pushed out by the best 11 anyway.
As Jacobson was sickness, assume he is back, so Ardie goes to 7, Luke to 8 and Akira stays at 6.
I reckon Webber deserves a start, not sure there is a case for looking good v a tiring Bok defence, they never got out of 2nd gear and with all the breaks, how could they get tired
Which then goes to the bench: Paps in for Blackadder, Mounga will likely come in for Tupaea.
Otherwise same 23 I think...I cant see them resting anyone given it is the last game of TRC (unless they feel someone is farked)
pretty much but i would have richie in for Dmac and either keep quinn or have reece on the bench
seems harsh to drop blackadder as if not for jordie i thought he was almost MotM...but not sure how else to make it work
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
So assuming ALB's fitness, if we slot him back to 13, it makes the 'dropping' of Bridge (out of 23) less of an issue, because is pushed out by the best 11 anyway.
As Jacobson was sickness, assume he is back, so Ardie goes to 7, Luke to 8 and Akira stays at 6.
I reckon Webber deserves a start, not sure there is a case for looking good v a tiring Bok defence, they never got out of 2nd gear and with all the breaks, how could they get tired
Which then goes to the bench: Paps in for Blackadder, Mounga will likely come in for Tupaea.
Otherwise same 23 I think...I cant see them resting anyone given it is the last game of TRC (unless they feel someone is farked)
pretty much but i would have richie in for Dmac and either keep quinn or have reece on the bench
seems harsh to drop blackadder as if not for jordie i thought he was almost MotM...but not sure how else to make it work
Wouldn't surprise me to see Havili given a rest. He has taken on a big workload this year not only in minutes but in learning a new position. I think his effectiveness was waning last week and he could do with a freshen up.
Start QT with Weber and ALB for guidance.
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@kiwiwomble i think with Reiko as the back up 13, ALB can go to 12, plus they loves them some Dmac so that's why Mounga comes in for Quinn for me.
I think Paps will be more suited to a tight forward battle, while Ethan played well, I think Paps plays with a shade more size, even though I don't think there is much between them.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kiwiwomble i think with Reiko as the back up 13, ALB can go to 12, plus they loves them some Dmac so that's why Mounga comes in for Quinn for me.
I think Paps will be more suited to a tight forward battle, while Ethan played well, I think Paps plays with a shade more size, even though I don't think there is much between them.
Why not both - Paps at 7 and Ethan at 6? One of Ardie or Akira start from the bench, probably Ardie at 8 due to the lack of leadership experience in this side, Akira from the bench.
Boks and very liklely England require a tighter game with higher workrate which both players offer in spades. If on top, bring on Akira at 6 at 50 minutes or even 40.
Worth trialling with the Rugby Championship in the bag.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kiwiwomble i think with Reiko as the back up 13, ALB can go to 12, plus they loves them some Dmac so that's why Mounga comes in for Quinn for me.
I think Paps will be more suited to a tight forward battle, while Ethan played well, I think Paps plays with a shade more size, even though I don't think there is much between them.
Why not both - Paps at 7 and Ethan at 6? One of Ardie or Akira start from the bench, probably Ardie at 8 due to the lack of leadership experience in this side, Akira from the bench.
Boks and very liklely England require a tighter game with higher workrate which both players offer in spades. If on top, bring on Akira at 6 at 50 minutes or even 40.
Worth trialling with the Rugby Championship in the bag.
@l_n_p
Am sure that could work, but I'd be surprised if they went that way...unless Akira is knackered form his workload...but how many weeks until thier next match?you not get this ad n the UK...
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kiwiwomble i think with Reiko as the back up 13, ALB can go to 12, plus they loves them some Dmac so that's why Mounga comes in for Quinn for me.
I think Paps will be more suited to a tight forward battle, while Ethan played well, I think Paps plays with a shade more size, even though I don't think there is much between them.
Why not both - Paps at 7 and Ethan at 6? One of Ardie or Akira start from the bench, probably Ardie at 8 due to the lack of leadership experience in this side, Akira from the bench.
Boks and very liklely England require a tighter game with higher workrate which both players offer in spades. If on top, bring on Akira at 6 at 50 minutes or even 40.
Worth trialling with the Rugby Championship in the bag.
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@l_n_p i get what your saying and you might be right but i'd be worried about AI taking a knock in confidence if dropped, i think id still like to see him bounce back
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@l_n_p i get what your saying and you might be right but i'd be worried about AI taking a knock in confidence if dropped, i think id still like to see him bounce back
He's earned a chance to play his way out of it
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
So assuming ALB's fitness, if we slot him back to 13, it makes the 'dropping' of Bridge (out of 23) less of an issue, because is pushed out by the best 11 anyway.
As Jacobson was sickness, assume he is back, so Ardie goes to 7, Luke to 8 and Akira stays at 6.
I reckon Webber deserves a start, not sure there is a case for looking good v a tiring Bok defence, they never got out of 2nd gear and with all the breaks, how could they get tired
Which then goes to the bench: Paps in for Blackadder, Mounga will likely come in for Tupaea.
Otherwise same 23 I think...I cant see them resting anyone given it is the last game of TRC (unless they feel someone is farked)
pretty much but i would have richie in for Dmac and either keep quinn or have reece on the bench
seems harsh to drop blackadder as if not for jordie i thought he was almost MotM...but not sure how else to make it work
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
seems harsh to drop blackadder as if not for jordie i thought he was almost MotM...but not sure how else to make it work
Workload management for Blackadder. HE hasn't been around long, and there's another bunch o'games coming after this. Rotate, don't drop.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
seems harsh to drop blackadder as if not for jordie i thought he was almost MotM...but not sure how else to make it work
Workload management for Blackadder. HE hasn't been around long, and there's another bunch o'games coming after this. Rotate, don't drop.
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@nzzp how many games has he started in a row? is he really in the bracket of people needing a rest? savea and AI have played more surely so they must be next in line for a rest
@kiwiwomble but how many weeks until thier next game?
Unless the player data says they need a rest, I cant see them 'rotating' anyone for this weekend.
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@kiwiwomble but how many weeks until thier next game?
Unless the player data says they need a rest, I cant see them 'rotating' anyone for this weekend.
@taniwharugby to be clear, i wasn;t advocating rotating, i was just saying IF thats the reason for blackadder not playing there are others that have played more... i think
