All Blacks vs Springboks II
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Hopefully Taylor sorts out his throwing, that had a huge impact on what we could do last week. We were forced to keep throwing at 2
That was the boks doing more than Taylors throwing IMO.
Well I remember one going to the back with Akira being lifted where it hit him in the stomach. How did the boks force that?
Whenever it went long it was off target.
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Hopefully Taylor sorts out his throwing, that had a huge impact on what we could do last week. We were forced to keep throwing at 2
That was the boks doing more than Taylors throwing IMO.
Well I remember one going to the back with Akira being lifted where it hit him in the stomach. How did the boks force that?
Whenever it went long it was off target.
Bad lift probably.
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another with only one question mark
I would have Dmac and richie on the bench, id rather have someone a bit bigger, but thats splitting hairs
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
another with only one question mark
I would have Dmac and richie on the bench, id rather have someone a bit bigger, but thats splitting hairs
Agreed Jordan or even QT would have been better.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Hopefully Taylor sorts out his throwing, that had a huge impact on what we could do last week. We were forced to keep throwing at 2
That was the boks doing more than Taylors throwing IMO.
Well I remember one going to the back with Akira being lifted where it hit him in the stomach. How did the boks force that?
Whenever it went long it was off target.
Bad lift probably.
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Hopefully Taylor sorts out his throwing, that had a huge impact on what we could do last week. We were forced to keep throwing at 2
That was the boks doing more than Taylors throwing IMO.
Well I remember one going to the back with Akira being lifted where it hit him in the stomach. How did the boks force that?
Whenever it went long it was off target.
Bad lift probably.
It wasn't a timing issue, the ball never made it to the target.
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@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Hopefully Taylor sorts out his throwing, that had a huge impact on what we could do last week. We were forced to keep throwing at 2
That was the boks doing more than Taylors throwing IMO.
Well I remember one going to the back with Akira being lifted where it hit him in the stomach. How did the boks force that?
Whenever it went long it was off target.
Bad lift probably.
It wasn't a timing issue, the ball never made it to the target.
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Hopefully Taylor sorts out his throwing, that had a huge impact on what we could do last week. We were forced to keep throwing at 2
That was the boks doing more than Taylors throwing IMO.
Well I remember one going to the back with Akira being lifted where it hit him in the stomach. How did the boks force that?
Whenever it went long it was off target.
Bad lift probably.
It wasn't a timing issue, the ball never made it to the target.
I don't remember that one so only guessing .
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Good team. I'll be very disappointed if they don't smack 7 shades of shit out of this lot.
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@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Only one selection in that team annoys me. Am I a Fozzie fan now?
Which one?
I thought that would be obvious - Reece.
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Only one selection in that team annoys me. Am I a Fozzie fan now?
Which one?
I thought that would be obvious - Reece.
I’m annoyed too. Bridge deserves heaps more chances to play himself into form.
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It's going to be a big challenge for the reserve front row. Aumua is not as strong a scrummager as Taukei'aho. The jury is still out on Bower and Tuungafasi looks underdone and has had his own problems in the scrum previously.
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
It's going to be a big challenge for the reserve front row. Aumua is not as strong a scrummager as Taukei'aho. The jury is still out on Bower and Tuungafasi looks underdone and has had his own problems in the scrum previously.
According to who ? I thought it was just his throwing that wasn’t as good.
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Yeah, I thought Aumua was a strong scrummager.
Reece or Jordan.... both are quality with different strengths. Reece gets his shot this week. -
just spotted something interesting on the TRC stats page.
If you look at the top 10 players for metres carried Bridge and Valetini are the only ones that aren't also in the top 10 for defenders beaten.
EDit: Will Jordan appears in neither top 10 but is second equal on tries scored. That's Josh Kronfeld levels of try 'poaching'
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
It's going to be a big challenge for the reserve front row. Aumua is not as strong a scrummager as Taukei'aho. The jury is still out on Bower and Tuungafasi looks underdone and has had his own problems in the scrum previously.
According to who ? I thought it was just his throwing that wasn’t as good.
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
It's going to be a big challenge for the reserve front row. Aumua is not as strong a scrummager as Taukei'aho. The jury is still out on Bower and Tuungafasi looks underdone and has had his own problems in the scrum previously.
According to who ? I thought it was just his throwing that wasn’t as good.
He isn't a large hooker by international standards, and the Canes scrum has often struggled. I accept that's not all down to Aumua (or Blackwell
). The Boks will bring on a better front row than their starters. I'm happy to be proved wrong. -
just spotted something interesting on the TRC stats page.
If you look at the top 10 players for metres carried Bridge and Valetini are the only ones that aren't also in the top 10 for defenders beaten.
EDit: Will Jordan appears in neither top 10 but is second equal on tries scored. That's Josh Kronfeld levels of try 'poaching'
@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
just spotted something interesting on the TRC stats page.
If you look at the top 10 players for metres carried Bridge and Valetini are the only ones that aren't also in the top 10 for defenders beaten.
EDit: Will Jordan appears in neither top 10 but is second equal on tries scored. That's Josh Kronfeld levels of try 'poaching'
I'm glad you put those marks around the poaching. If a player has the ability to barge over the line from 5m out and scores most of his tries that way we think that's fine. But apparently having that knack of appearing at the right place and being able to run them from 50 m out consistently is a worse ability!
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SA $4.2010.5 points spread
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Is Papalili injured or just didn't make the cut this week?
I would have started Mounga ahead of BB and the TH and hooker reserves don't exactly say "set piece confidence". Bower deserves to be there after KT's fairly woeful appearance last week.
It's pretty much the best team available currently (maybe Jordan should be in the mix, but he was hardly great under the high ball either), so no complaints really.
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Is Papalili injured or just didn't make the cut this week?
I would have started Mounga ahead of BB and the TH and hooker reserves don't exactly say "set piece confidence". Bower deserves to be there after KT's fairly woeful appearance last week.
It's pretty much the best team available currently (maybe Jordan should be in the mix, but he was hardly great under the high ball either), so no complaints really.
@billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Is Papalili injured or just didn't make the cut this week?
I would have started Mounga ahead of BB and the TH and hooker reserves don't exactly say "set piece confidence". Bower deserves to be there after KT's fairly woeful appearance last week.
It's pretty much the best team available currently (maybe Jordan should be in the mix, but he was hardly great under the high ball either), so no complaints really.
He's injured. Foxy was on SENZ and said he was really close to being selected, but he's not quite 100% yet, and with more rugby ahead, they wanted to be a bit cautious.
link to interview
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Is Papalili injured or just didn't make the cut this week?
I would have started Mounga ahead of BB and the TH and hooker reserves don't exactly say "set piece confidence". Bower deserves to be there after KT's fairly woeful appearance last week.
It's pretty much the best team available currently (maybe Jordan should be in the mix, but he was hardly great under the high ball either), so no complaints really.
@billy-tell I think Jordan was the only one of the back 3 (including Dmac) who didn't drop a high ball.
But, I think he might only have had to catch one and that without much pressure - and that one he lost forward in the tackle trying to pass pretty much immediately after.
Jordie seemed to be taking pretty much everything kicked to the right hand side.
I would pick Will because I like watching him and I think he has a massive ceiling - but, Sevu is also due another shot so I'm not hugely surprised.
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@billy-tell I think Jordan was the only one of the back 3 (including Dmac) who didn't drop a high ball.
But, I think he might only have had to catch one and that without much pressure - and that one he lost forward in the tackle trying to pass pretty much immediately after.
Jordie seemed to be taking pretty much everything kicked to the right hand side.
I would pick Will because I like watching him and I think he has a massive ceiling - but, Sevu is also due another shot so I'm not hugely surprised.
@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@billy-tell I think Jordan was the only one of the back 3 (including Dmac) who didn't drop a high ball.
But, I think he might only have had to catch one and that without much pressure - and that one he lost forward in the tackle trying to pass pretty much immediately after.
Jordie seemed to be taking pretty much everything kicked to the right hand side.
I would pick Will because I like watching him and I think he has a massive ceiling - but, Sevu is also due another shot so I'm not hugely surprised.
I'm hoping Jordan is injured. This is going to be like after Perth again for Reece, misses the bumbling game for the ABs, comes back in when they fire again so looks better than he is, next minute we lose the RWC (hmm, I might have exceeded the Terms of Reference for this discussion).
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@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@billy-tell I think Jordan was the only one of the back 3 (including Dmac) who didn't drop a high ball.
But, I think he might only have had to catch one and that without much pressure - and that one he lost forward in the tackle trying to pass pretty much immediately after.
Jordie seemed to be taking pretty much everything kicked to the right hand side.
I would pick Will because I like watching him and I think he has a massive ceiling - but, Sevu is also due another shot so I'm not hugely surprised.
I'm hoping Jordan is injured. This is going to be like after Perth again for Reece, misses the bumbling game for the ABs, comes back in when they fire again so looks better than he is, next minute we lose the RWC (hmm, I might have exceeded the Terms of Reference for this discussion).
@nepia I wondered whether that was why he'd been subbed before George, last week - but, I don't think it is. Dice's interview with Fox above would surely have mentioned if Will was injured - and he doesn't.
Is it too late for Will to jump on a plane and play in that Shield challenge?
I think that would be extremely beneficial to Will, the All Blacks and New Zealand rugby.
