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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @pepe So Owhango is within the KC provincial boundary?

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      @pepe So Owhango is within the KC provincial boundary?

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      @bovidae said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

      @pepe So Owhango is within the KC provincial boundary?

      Well within I would say....

      https://teara.govt.nz/en/interactive/34819/king-country-region-map

      Does Grant still own the pub and who is coaching Districts next year? 🙂

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        ADDITIONAL WEEK OF BUNNINGS WAREHOUSE NPC CONFIRMED

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          So NZR are trying to keep the original draw as these would have been the week 3 fixtures (excluding the games involving NH, Auck and CM).

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            ADDITIONAL WEEK OF BUNNINGS WAREHOUSE NPC CONFIRMED

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            @stargazer said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

            ADDITIONAL WEEK OF BUNNINGS WAREHOUSE NPC CONFIRMED

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            Gates will be open, too. With the 100 outdoor limit lifted, is that right?

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              @stargazer said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

              ADDITIONAL WEEK OF BUNNINGS WAREHOUSE NPC CONFIRMED

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              Gates will be open, too. With the 100 outdoor limit lifted, is that right?

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              @machpants Yeah, but I understand it has to be structured in such a way that they can ensure people are 1m apart, or something like that.

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                @machpants Yeah, but I understand it has to be structured in such a way that they can ensure people are 1m apart, or something like that.

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                @stargazer youd think with a little planning they could easily fit >2,000 people in most stadiums while adhering to the rules, plus the corporate boxes that they still been doing anyway.

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                  Liam Napier is reporting that the three Auckland sides will be pulling out of the comp, after their attempts for exemptions failed.

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                    I don't think the winners of the comps should be awarded official NPC champions, give it another name and record that an alternate comp was played due to covid. No pro-reg either.

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                      I wouldn't even bother with SFs, maybe just a final between the top 2 qualifiers. There would be 4 rounds to go after this weekend so the competition would finish by mid-Nov.

                      It would be harsh on Taranaki if there is no promotion-relegation based on their record so far, and who they have beaten.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        I wouldn't even bother with SFs, maybe just a final between the top 2 qualifiers. There would be 4 rounds to go after this weekend so the competition would finish by mid-Nov.

                        It would be harsh on Taranaki if there is no promotion-relegation based on their record so far, and who they have beaten.

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                        @bovidae so who gets demoted? Auckland currently sit at the foot of the table.

                        Maybe have a promo-relegation play off instead of automatic this year, currently that'd be 'naki v Wellington for teams available

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @bovidae so who gets demoted? Auckland currently sit at the foot of the table.

                          Maybe have a promo-relegation play off instead of automatic this year, currently that'd be 'naki v Wellington for teams available

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                          @taniwharugby said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

                          @bovidae so who gets demoted? Auckland currently sit at the foot of the table.

                          Maybe have a promo-relegation play off instead of automatic this year, currently that'd be 'naki v Wellington for teams available

                          That's what I am thinking. Have a promotion-relegation game between the top Championship team and bottom Premiership team competing.

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                            I wouldn't even bother with SFs, maybe just a final between the top 2 qualifiers. There would be 4 rounds to go after this weekend so the competition would finish by mid-Nov.

                            It would be harsh on Taranaki if there is no promotion-relegation based on their record so far, and who they have beaten.

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                            @bovidae said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

                            It would be harsh on Taranaki if there is no promotion-relegation based on their record so far, and who they have beaten.

                            NZR tried to end promotion/relegation this year. They wanted all 14 teams playing the one competition (with regional pools)

                            They just failed to get agreement in time this year. I expect them to push it through next year

                            Cancelling promotion/relegation this year would help them make an argument for it

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                              @bovidae said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

                              It would be harsh on Taranaki if there is no promotion-relegation based on their record so far, and who they have beaten.

                              NZR tried to end promotion/relegation this year. They wanted all 14 teams playing the one competition (with regional pools)

                              They just failed to get agreement in time this year. I expect them to push it through next year

                              Cancelling promotion/relegation this year would help them make an argument for it

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                              @duluth yeah I can't see them sticking with promotion/relegation, it's too messy in the current Covid environment. They need to go back to the 14 team structure as that will be easier too manage if we face disruptions in the future.

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                                I would say that legally they won't be able to hold finals or have promotion relegation.

                                If they tried, I would suggest legal representatives from the three unions would try and have a go at any decisions.

                                Advertising revenue, sponsorship all that could be at risk by progressing the competition as scheduled, minus the three teams.

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                                  I would say that legally they won't be able to hold finals or have promotion relegation.

                                  If they tried, I would suggest legal representatives from the three unions would try and have a go at any decisions.

                                  Advertising revenue, sponsorship all that could be at risk by progressing the competition as scheduled, minus the three teams.

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                                  @southernmann There's nothing legally stopping them from holding finals. It's not detrimental to anyone to have finals. Maybe give the winner a different cup or just winners' medals.
                                  Promotion/relegation isn't detrimental to anyone either, if Auckland's position in the Premiership is safe (I'm not saying I'm in favour of it, this year).
                                  I think more advertising revenu & sponsorship is at risk if you play fewer games.

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                                    I'm not against a 14-team competition, as long as they don't do the stupid north/south pool split. It would mean you're in the same pool and are guaranteed to play the same opponents every year and that's just not good enough. Adding a few cross-over games doesn't change that sufficiently.

                                    Maybe let provinces pick all their opponents the same way they now decide the cross-over games. Choose in order of overall ranking or reverse order of ranking; ranking mid-table and up or down; home and away, etc.

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                                      I'm not against a 14-team competition, as long as they don't do the stupid north/south pool split. It would mean you're in the same pool and are guaranteed to play the same opponents every year and that's just not good enough. Adding a few cross-over games doesn't change that sufficiently.

                                      Maybe let provinces pick all their opponents the same way they now decide the cross-over games. Choose in order of overall ranking or reverse order of ranking; ranking mid-table and up or down; home and away, etc.

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                                        Here's the official media release:
                                        https://www.provincial.rugby/news/bunnings-warehouse-npc-to-continue-without-auckland-based-teams/

                                        The Bunnings NPC season will continue with the 11 Provincial Unions outside of the Auckland region, and NZR has confirmed there are plans to stand up a separate Super City Series for Auckland, North Harbour and Counties-Manukau once they are able to resume playing.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Here's the official media release:
                                          https://www.provincial.rugby/news/bunnings-warehouse-npc-to-continue-without-auckland-based-teams/

                                          The Bunnings NPC season will continue with the 11 Provincial Unions outside of the Auckland region, and NZR has confirmed there are plans to stand up a separate Super City Series for Auckland, North Harbour and Counties-Manukau once they are able to resume playing.

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                                          @stargazer Wonder if the the players from the three Auckland teams join other teams to get game time. Real shame for RTS, as he came over earlier to get a start in NPC.

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