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    We get sub strength teams sent from NH all the time, it's pandemic time, you gotta just do your best. I agree that it could be a player welfare issue but if they play until they get to Oz, they should be fine. Cest la vie, it is what it is

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    @Machpants said in Springboks moving forward:

    We get sub strength teams sent from NH all the time, it's pandemic time, you gotta just do your best. I agree that it could be a player welfare issue but if they play until they get to Oz, they should be fine. Cest la vie, it is what it is

    Fair enough, although I'd like to think that the Boks have too much respect for the AB rivalry to deliberately field a sub-strength team.
    As @nzzp says, there is a financial consideration, although for me the player welfare consideration @Stargazer raises more than balances that.

    Still, no decision taken as yet (that I know of) so let's see.
    If they are planning on going, they need to get a ton of rugby under the belt before then. Everyone looked really rusty and below par fitness wise in the Green v Gold match.

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    @Billy-Webb yeah it's a bit crap. Also even if the Boks want to come they still have to get govt permission, international touring has been banned as I understand it?

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    @Machpants I am struggling to keep track of all the bans / restrictions / rules these days πŸ™‚
    But yes, I suspect the NZ government has to give the green light, and our lot too.
    If I recall correctly, NZ is now on the latest allowed travel list into SA. Not sure what the story is for travel into NZ from here anyway.

    For me, the Boks are better off to just forget this year. We have the BIL's touring here next year (hopefully!) and they may as well start focusing on that rather than risking a rushed program this year.

    Sad to miss out on international rugby this year - but it has been such a circus show of a year, I am learning to live with a lot of things.

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    @Billy-Webb No they're coming to Oz, not NZ, and have got the green light from Oz. But I think SA govt has banned international sporting tours

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    @Machpants said in Springboks moving forward:

    @Billy-Webb No they're coming to Oz, not NZ, and have got the green light from Oz. But I think SA govt has banned international sporting tours

    Hahaha. Shows you how up to date I am. Thanks for clarifying.
    (Our govt lot just make this shit up as they go along and as I said, hard to keep it all straight)
    We have cricket players at the IPL, rugby players in France and the UK, cyclists in Italy... but international sporting tours....

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    @Billy-Webb Yeah It was a line from one of the coaches after Green v Gold, first I'd heard of it! I think they should get dispensation, not like they're off to a covid hotspot

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    The Springboks squad will be announce today.

    This one goes back to 1981

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    Sa rugby
    Springbok squad for the Castle Lager Outgoing Tour:

    Props:
    Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks) – 13 caps, 0 pts
    Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 56 caps, 5pts (1t)
    Vincent Koch (Saracens) – 28 caps, 0 pts
    Ox NchΓ© (Cell C Sharks) – 6 caps, 0pts
    Trevor Nyakane (Vodacom Bulls) – 51 caps, 5pts (1t)

    Hookers:
    Joseph Dweba (Bordeaux BΓ¨gles) – 1 cap, 0 pts
    Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 43 caps, 45 pts (9t)
    Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers) – 45 caps, 45 pts (9t)

    Locks:
    Lood de Jager (Sale Sharks) – 53 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    Eben Etzebeth (Toulon) – 94 caps, 15 pts (3t)
    Salmaan Moerat (DHL Stormers) – Uncapped
    Marvin Orie (DHL Stormers) – 7 caps, 0 pts

    Loose forwards:
    Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 60 caps, 30 pts (6t)
    Kwagga Smith (Yamaha JΓΊbilo) – 16 caps, 5 pts (1t)
    Marco van Staden (Leicester Tigers) – 9 caps, 0 pts
    Duane Vermeulen (Ulster) – 58 caps, 15 pts (3t)
    Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 8 caps, 0 pts

    Utility forward:
    Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 48 caps, 5pts (1t)

    Scrumhalves:
    Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers) – 18 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    Cobus Reinach (Montpellier) – 18 caps, 40pts (8t)
    Grant Williams (Cell C Sharks) – Uncapped

    Flyhalves:
    Elton Jantjies (NTT Docomo Red Hurricanes) – 41 caps, 309 pts (2t, 64c, 56p, 1d)
    HandrΓ© Pollard (Montpellier) – 57 caps, 558 pts (6t, 83c, 120p, 4d)

    Midfielders:
    Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 23 caps, 25 pts (5t)
    Damian de Allende (Munster) – 55 caps, 35 pts (7t)
    Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles) – 48 caps, 60 pts (12t)

    Outside backs:
    Aphelele Fassi (Cell C Sharks) – 2 caps, 10pts (2t)
    Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 70 caps, 60 pts (12t)
    Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 22 caps, 85 pts (17t)
    Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks) – 25 caps, 45 pts (9t)

    Utility backs:
    Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 14 caps, 5pts (1t)
    Frans Steyn (Toyota Cheetahs) – 71 caps, 141pts (11t, 7c, 21p, 3d)

    Castle Lager Outgoing Tour fixtures (SA kick-off times):

    Saturday, 6 November
    19h30 – Wales v South Africa (Principality Stadium, Cardiff)

    Saturday, 13 November
    14h00 – Scotland v South Africa (BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh)

    Saturday, 20 November
    17h15 – England v South Africa (Twickenham, London)

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    Salmat Moerat who is in great form the only debutant

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    @oompb no Gelandt? So we are stuck with Willie at 15

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    @sidbarret Stormers are in great form.

    As a Boishaaier you,d know that Moerat will be a future Bok captain.

    Gelant & Roos should be there.

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    @oompb said in Springboks moving forward:

    Salmat Moerat who is in great form the only debutant

    Grant Williams too

    Still no Kolbe

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    @machpants Williams was in Australia altho he did not play.

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    Springbokke get two tests plus mid week matches vs All Blacks at home in 2022

    SA Rugbymag

    Dec 12, 2021Β Β /Β Β Springboks

    Nelspruit set to host Springboks vs All Blacks Rugby Championship Test

    Nelspruit set to host Springboks vs All Blacks Rugby Championship Test

    After missing out on the opportunity in 2020, reports suggest that Mbombela stadium will finally get to host a Test between the Springboks and All Blacks in 2022.

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    @oompb said in Springboks moving forward:

    Springbokke get two tests plus mid week matches vs All Blacks at home in 2022

    SA Rugbymag

    Dec 12, 2021Β Β /Β Β Springboks

    Nelspruit set to host Springboks vs All Blacks Rugby Championship Test

    Nelspruit set to host Springboks vs All Blacks Rugby Championship Test

    After missing out on the opportunity in 2020, reports suggest that Mbombela stadium will finally get to host a Test between the Springboks and All Blacks in 2022.

    Mid week matches for SA XV and ABs XV will be good for both our squads

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/127610099/six-nations-boss-says-there-is-little-appetite-for-springboks-inclusion

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    @tim think most people have said (expected) that would be the case, except SARU...

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    @tim pikachu surprised face.

    Who woulda thunk it. As @taniwharugby says, what's in it for the 6N?

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    Wales 3 test match rugby tour of South Africa 2 Jul (Pretoria), 9 Jul (Bloemfontein) & 16 Jul (Cape Town) 2022

    WALES SQUAD FOR SOUTH AFRICA TEST SERIES

    Forwards (19): Rhys Carre (Cardiff Rugby – 16 caps), Wyn Jones (Scarlets – 43 caps), Gareth Thomas (Ospreys – 10 caps), Ryan Elias (Scarlets – 27 caps), Dewi Lake (Ospreys – 5 caps), Sam Parry (Ospreys – 5 caps), Leon Brown (Dragons – 22 caps), Tomas Francis (Ospreys – 64 caps), Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Rugby – 38 caps), Adam Beard (Ospreys – 34 caps), Ben Carter (Dragons – 6 caps), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys – 150 caps), Will Rowlands (Dragons – 18 caps), Taine Basham (Dragons – 10 caps), Taulupe Faletau (Bath Rugby – 89 caps), Dan Lydiate (Ospreys – 65 caps), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Rugby – 30 caps), James Ratti (Cardiff Rugby – uncapped), Tommy Reffell (Leicester Tigers – uncapped).

    Backs (14): Gareth Davies (Scarlets – 67 caps), Kieran Hardy (Scarlets – 11 caps), Tomos Williams (Cardiff Rugby – 33 caps), Gareth Anscombe (Ospreys – 31 caps), Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints – 100 caps) Captain, Rhys Patchell (Scarlets – 21 caps), George North (Ospreys – 102 caps), Nick Tompkins (Saracens – 20 caps). Owen Watkin (Ospreys – 31 caps), Johnny Williams (Scarlets – 5 caps), Josh Adams (Cardiff Rugby – 39 caps), Alex Cuthbert (Ospreys – 51 caps), Louis Rees-Zammit (Gloucester Rugby – 16 caps), Liam Williams (Scarlets – 78 caps).

    Springbokke squad to be announce in next week.

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