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All Blacks vs USA

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    This is the sort of fixture where Will Jordan could score a million points.

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      Strange seeing Aumua starting given the young Chiefs locks but otherwise predictable. Did not realise USA would be missing so many of their best players though.

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      @arhs to be fair it could be his only opportunity this tour unless injuries strike. He deserves another crack after his performance against Argentina.

      The one hooker that needs to lift his game is Codie Taylor, I think Samisoni has really put the pressure on him this year so it will be interesting to see what happens as the tour progresses. Samisoni will start a test at some point, probably against the Italians.

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        Honestly I think if there was a 3rd Springbok test Taukeiaho could have started in it. He's definitely high up in contention.

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          Who are the 11 flying early to Wales?

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            Who are the 11 flying early to Wales?

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            @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

            Who are the 11 flying early to Wales?

            From the NZH

            While the All Blacks take on the USA in front of over 50,000 at FedEx Field, home of the Washington NFL team in Maryland on Sunday morning, an advanced party of players will make their way to Cardiff 24 hours before the rest of the squad for the next test against Wales.
            
            That group includes Brodie Retallick, Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody, Shannon Frizell, Ethan Blackadder, Ofa Tuungafasi, Akira Ioane and Jordie Barrett.
            
            The vast majority of that contingent will be expected to start next week against Wales. Frizell, who joined the squad in the USA after missing the Rugby Championship, is carrying a shoulder injury suffered while playing for  Ta$man.
            
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              @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

              Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

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              @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

              Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

              A point made on social media:

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                  @stargazer said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @mariner4life They read the Fern and notice the insecurity and stress some Ferners are suffering from if they don't know the exact time and date of the announcement.

                  we could wheel out Hawkes Bay B and horsewhip the US, who gives a fuck?

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                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @stargazer said in All Blacks vs USA:

                  @mariner4life They read the Fern and notice the insecurity and stress some Ferners are suffering from if they don't know the exact time and date of the announcement.

                  we could wheel out Hawkes Bay B and horsewhip the US, who gives a fuck?

                  < JC frantically searching for his old boots and mouthguard >

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                    So US of A would be calling anything less than a 100 point loss a success or if they score a five pointer

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                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                      @daffy-jaffy said in All Blacks vs USA:

                      1. Ethan de Groot (2)
                      2. Asafo Aumua (4)
                      3. Angus Ta’avao (19)
                      4. Samuel Whitelock (127) - captain
                      5. Tupou Vaa’i (7)
                      6. Luke Jacobson (10)
                      7. Dalton Papalii (9)
                      8. Hoskins Sotutu (8)
                      9. Finlay Christie (3)
                      10. Richie Mo’unga (27)
                      11. George Bridge (16)
                      12. Quinn Tupaea (4)
                      13. Braydon Ennor (2)
                      14. Will Jordan (9)
                      15. Damian McKenzie (37)
                      16. Dane Coles (76)
                      17. George Bower (8)
                      18. Tyrel Lomax (10)
                      19. Josh Lord - new cap
                      20. Sam Cane (74)
                      21. TJ Perenara (75)
                      22. Beauden Barrett (98)
                      23. Anton Lienert-Brown (53)

                      That’s an abortion of a team. Not worthy of the name.

                      Any UK coverage anybody know?

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                      @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                      That’s an abortion of a team.

                      Why?

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                        That’s an abortion of a team.

                        Why?

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                        @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                        @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                        That’s an abortion of a team.

                        Why?

                        Because they selected a Heartland player?

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                          @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                          That’s an abortion of a team.

                          Why?

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                          @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                          @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                          That’s an abortion of a team.

                          Why?

                          Looks like an exciting team that would bend over double against a top group of forwards, which I assume the US of A still doesn't have...
                          I'd probably swap the starting props with the bench though..

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                            @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            That’s an abortion of a team.

                            Why?

                            Because they selected a Heartland player?

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                            @dice said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            That’s an abortion of a team.

                            Why?

                            Because they selected a Heartland player?

                            Yeah that's all I can come up with. Let's see....

                            A debutant, but in an area where our stocks are awfully low, and off the bench. Green front row, but 2 players who have proven themselves at T1 level and another who is a capable journeyman. One of our best locks and another next gen player beside him. A loose trio who a lot wouldn't have minded seeing together this year. Halfback hasn't been great shakes at SR but looks comfortable in black. 10 could be our best, 14 many think is our best, 15 is our second best, 12 many think could be a future best, 13 keeps getting selected so must be doing something right.

                            Oh.

                            George Bridge.

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                              @duluth said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              Codie

                              That loose trio will be interesting. I quite like the balance. LJ’s first AB outing for a while at 6.

                              Will be interesting for Wales if Hoskins rips it up.

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                This is the sort of fixture where Will Jordan could score a million points.

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                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                This is the sort of fixture where George Bridge Will Jordan could score a million points.

                                Could be a nightmare..

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                  Don't quite get why BB is needed.

                                  That was my first thought too. I can only assume that the 1st 5 position for the Welsh test is still up for grabs and that BB will play decent minutes in the game at 10. Obviously the quality of the opposition won't tell us much.

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                                  @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                  @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                  Don't quite get why BB is needed.

                                  That was my first thought too. I can only assume that the 1st 5 position for the Welsh test is still up for grabs and that BB will play decent minutes in the game at 10. Obviously the quality of the opposition won't tell us much.

                                  Maybe he has a bit of a profile in the US (at least among semiknowledgeable fans there) and they want to have a star on the field at some stage? I think some of his more memorable moments have gone somewhat viral.

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                                    @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    @daffy-jaffy said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    1. Ethan de Groot (2)
                                    2. Asafo Aumua (4)
                                    3. Angus Ta’avao (19)
                                    4. Samuel Whitelock (127) - captain
                                    5. Tupou Vaa’i (7)
                                    6. Luke Jacobson (10)
                                    7. Dalton Papalii (9)
                                    8. Hoskins Sotutu (8)
                                    9. Finlay Christie (3)
                                    10. Richie Mo’unga (27)
                                    11. George Bridge (16)
                                    12. Quinn Tupaea (4)
                                    13. Braydon Ennor (2)
                                    14. Will Jordan (9)
                                    15. Damian McKenzie (37)
                                    16. Dane Coles (76)
                                    17. George Bower (8)
                                    18. Tyrel Lomax (10)
                                    19. Josh Lord - new cap
                                    20. Sam Cane (74)
                                    21. TJ Perenara (75)
                                    22. Beauden Barrett (98)
                                    23. Anton Lienert-Brown (53)

                                    That’s an abortion of a team. Not worthy of the name.

                                    Yes every team must always and without exception consist of the top 23. Development is a dirty word.

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                                    @billy-tell said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    Yes every team must always and without exception consist of the top 23. Development is a dirty word.

                                    Who said that? Not I.

                                    @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    A bit insulting.

                                    I'm sure Josh Lord's parents feel very differently.

                                    The All Blacks are about pandering to peoples parents?

                                    @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    That’s an abortion of a team.

                                    Why?

                                    Not convinced about Aumua, Whitelock the only forward with any decent experience, Christie is poor in my view, Bridge has zero x-factor,

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    Looks like an exciting team that would bend over double against a top group of forwards, which I assume the US of A still doesn't have...

                                    Yes, I agree. It's a team to beat a poor team.

                                    @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                    Yeah that's all I can come up with. Let's see....

                                    A debutant, but in an area where our stocks are awfully low, and off the bench. Green front row, but 2 players who have proven themselves at T1 level and another who is a capable journeyman. One of our best locks and another next gen player beside him. A loose trio who a lot wouldn't have minded seeing together this year. Halfback hasn't been great shakes at SR but looks comfortable in black. 10 could be our best, 14 many think is our best, 15 is our second best, 12 many think could be a future best, 13 keeps getting selected so must be doing something right.

                                    Oh.

                                    George Bridge.

                                    You are way off with you number 9 call, but rest looks right.

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                                    • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                      @billy-tell said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                      Yes every team must always and without exception consist of the top 23. Development is a dirty word.

                                      Who said that? Not I.

                                      @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                      A bit insulting.

                                      I'm sure Josh Lord's parents feel very differently.

                                      The All Blacks are about pandering to peoples parents?

                                      @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                      @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                      That’s an abortion of a team.

                                      Why?

                                      Not convinced about Aumua, Whitelock the only forward with any decent experience, Christie is poor in my view, Bridge has zero x-factor,

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                      Looks like an exciting team that would bend over double against a top group of forwards, which I assume the US of A still doesn't have...

                                      Yes, I agree. It's a team to beat a poor team.

                                      @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                      Yeah that's all I can come up with. Let's see....

                                      A debutant, but in an area where our stocks are awfully low, and off the bench. Green front row, but 2 players who have proven themselves at T1 level and another who is a capable journeyman. One of our best locks and another next gen player beside him. A loose trio who a lot wouldn't have minded seeing together this year. Halfback hasn't been great shakes at SR but looks comfortable in black. 10 could be our best, 14 many think is our best, 15 is our second best, 12 many think could be a future best, 13 keeps getting selected so must be doing something right.

                                      Oh.

                                      George Bridge.

                                      You are way off with you number 9 call, but rest looks right.

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                                      I guess I'll never see Jordan at 15 if he isn't playing there this game.
                                      I think Rieko would have ripped it up in this game.

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                                      • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                        @billy-tell said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        Yes every team must always and without exception consist of the top 23. Development is a dirty word.

                                        Who said that? Not I.

                                        @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        A bit insulting.

                                        I'm sure Josh Lord's parents feel very differently.

                                        The All Blacks are about pandering to peoples parents?

                                        @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        That’s an abortion of a team.

                                        Why?

                                        Not convinced about Aumua, Whitelock the only forward with any decent experience, Christie is poor in my view, Bridge has zero x-factor,

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        Looks like an exciting team that would bend over double against a top group of forwards, which I assume the US of A still doesn't have...

                                        Yes, I agree. It's a team to beat a poor team.

                                        @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        Yeah that's all I can come up with. Let's see....

                                        A debutant, but in an area where our stocks are awfully low, and off the bench. Green front row, but 2 players who have proven themselves at T1 level and another who is a capable journeyman. One of our best locks and another next gen player beside him. A loose trio who a lot wouldn't have minded seeing together this year. Halfback hasn't been great shakes at SR but looks comfortable in black. 10 could be our best, 14 many think is our best, 15 is our second best, 12 many think could be a future best, 13 keeps getting selected so must be doing something right.

                                        Oh.

                                        George Bridge.

                                        You are way off with you number 9 call, but rest looks right.

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                                        @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                        You are way off with you number 9 call

                                        I can't stand Chrsitie for some reason and would be the second (after @antipodean) to call him out if he was bad in black....but I can't. He's done as good a job as any other 9 outside Smith this season (not saying much, but there's no other choice is there).

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                                        • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                          @billy-tell said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          Yes every team must always and without exception consist of the top 23. Development is a dirty word.

                                          Who said that? Not I.

                                          @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          A bit insulting.

                                          I'm sure Josh Lord's parents feel very differently.

                                          The All Blacks are about pandering to peoples parents?

                                          @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          That’s an abortion of a team.

                                          Why?

                                          Not convinced about Aumua, Whitelock the only forward with any decent experience, Christie is poor in my view, Bridge has zero x-factor,

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          Looks like an exciting team that would bend over double against a top group of forwards, which I assume the US of A still doesn't have...

                                          Yes, I agree. It's a team to beat a poor team.

                                          @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          Yeah that's all I can come up with. Let's see....

                                          A debutant, but in an area where our stocks are awfully low, and off the bench. Green front row, but 2 players who have proven themselves at T1 level and another who is a capable journeyman. One of our best locks and another next gen player beside him. A loose trio who a lot wouldn't have minded seeing together this year. Halfback hasn't been great shakes at SR but looks comfortable in black. 10 could be our best, 14 many think is our best, 15 is our second best, 12 many think could be a future best, 13 keeps getting selected so must be doing something right.

                                          Oh.

                                          George Bridge.

                                          You are way off with you number 9 call, but rest looks right.

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                                          @majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                          A bit insulting.

                                          I'm sure Josh Lord's parents feel very differently.

                                          The All Blacks are about pandering to peoples parents?

                                          Who said that? Not I.

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