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Crusaders 2022

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300431409/new-head-coaching-role-helps-develop-longtime-crusaders-assistant-jason-ryan

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      @Chris-B With 4 All Black Locks penned in for 2022 and if the rumours that Luke Ramano is heading to the Blues are true , which young lock would you like to see signed..?
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        Maybe Zach Gallagher gets promoted.

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          Maybe Zach Gallagher gets promoted.

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          @bovidae That's what I was thinking; they have taller players in their academy, but he's been on the fringes.

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            @Chris-B With 4 All Black Locks penned in for 2022 and if the rumours that Luke Ramano is heading to the Blues are true , which young lock would you like to see signed..?
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            @steven-harris Josh Lord! 🙂

            We can afford to play a waiting game with whomever we pick, because he won't get many minutes.

            The eventual big need is going to be a replacement for Sam Whitelock's height - so I'd like to see us pick someone 2.00+ metres.

            I don't think any of the Mako boys are that big and seems Gallagher isn't either.

            But, if there's no-one who fits the bill right now, then maybe Gallagher or Shalfoon and keep the tall kids in the WTG/academies for another year.

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              @bovidae That's what I was thinking; they have taller players in their academy, but he's been on the fringes.

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              @stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

              @bovidae That's what I was thinking; they have taller players in their academy, but he's been on the fringes.

              Who else do they have? Gallagher is tall enough (1.98 m IIRC) but has some meat on the bones for a young player. Hannah, as a comparison, is a beanpole.

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                @stargazer said in Crusaders 2022:

                @bovidae That's what I was thinking; they have taller players in their academy, but he's been on the fringes.

                Who else do they have? Gallagher is tall enough (1.98 m IIRC) but has some meat on the bones for a young player. Hannah, as a comparison, is a beanpole.

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                @bovidae In Crusaders Academy (I've only looked at height, because they don't mention positions):

                Zach Gallagher 1.95m
                Tom Thornalley 1.95m
                Jamie Hannah 1.96m
                Fiti Sa 1.98m
                Mahonri Ngakuru 1.99m

                Of course, there's always Geoff Cridge 2.00m, who trained with them during preseason early this year and is having another great NPC season. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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                  Having seen him play live a few times, I thought Gallagher was taller than that. You can always put some bulk on a young lock but eventually they stop growing upwards.

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                    @steven-harris Josh Lord! 🙂

                    We can afford to play a waiting game with whomever we pick, because he won't get many minutes.

                    The eventual big need is going to be a replacement for Sam Whitelock's height - so I'd like to see us pick someone 2.00+ metres.

                    I don't think any of the Mako boys are that big and seems Gallagher isn't either.

                    But, if there's no-one who fits the bill right now, then maybe Gallagher or Shalfoon and keep the tall kids in the WTG/academies for another year.

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                    @chris-b Crusaders would turn Lord into something special .

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                      @chris-b Crusaders would turn Lord into something special .

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                      @steven-harris Whoever has him will pretty quickly add 10kgs to his frame.

                      It's good to see a 2.02 metre player coming through. Guys with that height, necessary athleticism and aggression and who aren't injury magnets aren't easy to find.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        Having seen him play live a few times, I thought Gallagher was taller than that. You can always put some bulk on a young lock but eventually they stop growing upwards.

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                        @bovidae https://www.allblacks.com/playerprofiles/zach-gallagher/

                        I got this first up when I googled him.

                        I'd imagine that is his under-19s weight!

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                          @chris-b Crusaders would turn Lord into something special .

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                          @steven-harris said in Crusaders 2022:

                          @chris-b Crusaders would turn Lord into something special .

                          I wish I could tag Brodie Retallick and the Chiefs coaches in this reply.

                          I’m not saying you are wrong, just that they have that challenge.

                          We’ve done OK with Vaa’i though.

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                            @bovidae https://www.allblacks.com/playerprofiles/zach-gallagher/

                            I got this first up when I googled him.

                            I'd imagine that is his under-19s weight!

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                            @chris-b You can see Gallagher in these highlights (#5). Holland is no.4.

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                              @chris-b You can see Gallagher in these highlights (#5). Holland is no.4.

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                              @bovidae Both look decent sized units to me. No way Gallagher is 102kgs!

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                                @bovidae Both look decent sized units to me. No way Gallagher is 102kgs!

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                                @chris-b said in Crusaders 2022:

                                @bovidae Both look decent sized units to me. No way Gallagher is 102kgs!

                                Yup, that was his schoolboy weight. The ever reliable All Blacks app, which I think was updated for the recent NPC season, suggests he is 198cm and 115kg

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                                  @bovidae Both look decent sized units to me. No way Gallagher is 102kgs!

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                                  @chris-b The Crusaders website has Gallagher at 111kg.

                                  Canterbury website doesn't mention his weight but has his height at 1.98m.

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                                    Gallagher will get the spot he has been groomed for the Crusaders for a while.Aggresive hard nosed young player big wraps on him in the Academy.

                                    He would be 198cm he is quite tall and has beefed up a fair bit.

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                                      @chris-b said in Crusaders 2022:

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                                      @chris said in Crusaders 2022:

                                      From what I can find out the 2022 Squad looks like this with some gaps to be filled
                                      A Lock maybe Romano.
                                      2 Loose Forwards Segner maybe one.
                                      First five unless Havilli is used as cover . If so another back or a 7th Prop maybe the option.
                                      2 more backs. Isiah Punivai and Dallas McLeod I would be happy to not see these 2 getting those spots.

                                      Props:
                                      Joe Moody, Ollie Jager, Isi Tuungafasi, George Bower, , Tamaiti Williams, Fletcher Newell
                                      
Hookers:
                                      Codie Taylor, Brodie McAlister, Andrew Makalio,
                                      
Locks:
                                      Scott Barrett, Quentin Strange, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Whitelock,
                                      
Loose forwards:
                                      Cullen Grace, Pablo Matera Ethan Blackadder, Sione Havili, , Tom Christie
                                      
Halfbacks:
                                      Mitch Drummond, , Bryn Hall,Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
                                      
Inside backs:
                                      Richie Mo’unga, Fergus Burke,
                                      
Midfield:
                                      Jack Goodhue, , Braydon Ennor, ,David Havilli,
                                      
Outside backs:
                                      Chay Fihaki, George Bridge,Kini Naholo , Sevu Reece, Will Jordan, Leicester Faingaanuku,

                                      That's a fucking loaded team, but if Mo'unga gets injured, it's very beatable.

                                      Yep he’s key

                                      Around about now, we should be hearing noises about the next star first five finishing up school or running round club rugby.

                                      I can remember hearing people raving about Richie first year out of STAC.

                                      Any idea who it's going to be?

                                      Nothing is standing out,seems like there is a big void there not just in the Crusaders region but through out NZ.
                                      I don’t see a 3rd First five option.
                                      Maybe they go with Havilli as 3rd cover at First five.
                                      I hope they have someone in mind to develop.
                                      It could be a problem going forward.

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                                      @chris I know who the 3rd choice first five is. Romano has gone to blues as well.

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                                        @chris I know who the 3rd choice first five is. Romano has gone to blues as well.

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                                        @chchfanatic said in Crusaders 2022:

                                        @chris I know who the 3rd choice first five is. Romano has gone to blues as well.

                                        I heard about Romano

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                                          @chchfanatic said in Crusaders 2022:

                                          @chris I know who the 3rd choice first five is. Romano has gone to blues as well.

                                          I heard about Romano

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                                          @chris Romano was great against Ta$man could b ok replacement for patty but nothing offical yet

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