Electric Vehicles
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@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
Australia's first batch of Hyundai Ioniq 5 sold out in less than three hours.
The Rivian R1T has apparently been cleared for local selling too. Even managed to get the wife to agree it would be a good purchase, so I've signed up for updates.
any idea when they're expected to be available?
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@voodoo This (https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/australias-new-ute-king-rivian-r1t-gets-green-light-for-local-launch-as-segment-shattering) says 'Deliveries are expected to begin in January 2022.' Not clear whether that's USA or AU. Either way, once I get the email the deposit will swap accounts.
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@voodoo said in Electric Vehicles:
One thing I find odd about EV's is the way they all seem to come with gloriously oversized displays. Why is this unique to EV's and not also industry standard for new ICE's? Is there really THAT much more interesting info to know about your EV???
Yeah, they seem to have a huge oversized iPad attached to them.
My mate just bought a Tesla which I checked out last weekend. Now I see them everywhere - I'm not a car person so they were just any old car to me previously.
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@voodoo said in Electric Vehicles:
One thing I find odd about EV's is the way they all seem to come with gloriously oversized displays. Why is this unique to EV's and not also industry standard for new ICE's? Is there really THAT much more interesting info to know about your EV???
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https://www.newcastle.edu.au/newsroom/featured/new-green-hydrogen-made-from-solar-power-and-air
sounds too good to be true...
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@NTA I'mm not sure when if it hits Australia or the actual affect it will have on the market (or the build quality/service/reliability) but the small BYD hatckback with Blade batteries sounds impressive value
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@nostrildamus getting back to this: if BYD can get these cars into the rideshare economy e.g. GoGet they'll go a long way to helping reduce their costs and create a second-hand vehicle market.
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@nta yes i agree, I think that is likely, plus they are bringing a cheaper car out. I was quite biased and thought the BYD car would be crap but it doesn't look that badly built or bad to drive so I'm tempted to rent this and a few other renewables next year before buying one(I think several Australian state RAs also have share/rental schemes for members).
In NZ you can order a cupra born soon but the general VW EV stable looks like it will take years to reach Australia (a shame, I like the look of the VW life).
The Ioniq 5 looks interestingly Lancia-life but even in the promo videos it doesn't look any fun to drive and it and the Kia E6 look a bit big and heavy for what I'm after.Another option is to find a classic car with a strong but light body and electrify it

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BYD's buses are not great
okay, but not great.
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Testing two more cars next Friday. Kia EV6 & Mercedes EQC.
I'm really impressed with the styling of the EV6 and in the flesh I think it looks great. The interior quality is way way up there too, the look and feel is great. It only feels a bit cheap in the boot, when you open it up and it's just colossal levels of cheap crappy looking plastic. The EQC I've not been that bothered by as the local dealer has huge arrogance. We rocked up there to take a look and they didn't really want to help us. They also told my children off for touching the car beside the EQC which I didn't really appreciate. Why park the EQC demo beside a restored special edition SL? Put your posh cars in the posh area, not beside the family wagon for goodness sakes. Anyway, my in-laws have ordered one and think it's incredible. So we decided to take a look.
Hoping I don't like it as means I'll be in a tricky situation on the IX3 we have on order which is due next Feb ....
EDIT: Forgot to add we sat in another iX. My wife couldn't believe I didn't mind it, think the interior looks like it's designed by a Kardashian. Think's it is absolutely ghastly. I had to agree with her. I hadn't noticed all the crrap like crystal buttons etc. It really is awful.
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@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
It only feels a bit cheap in the boot, when you open it up and it's just colossal levels of cheap crappy looking plastic.
I'm sure your victims will leave the appropriate view.

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@mariner4life said in Electric Vehicles:
BYD's buses are not great
okay, but not great.
In terms of anything specific? Performance? Reliability? Range? Comfort?
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
It only feels a bit cheap in the boot, when you open it up and it's just colossal levels of cheap crappy looking plastic.
I'm sure your victims will leave the appropriate view.

All jokes aside, our dog will travel in the boot a lot. And I think every time we went around a corner if she put her paw on the plastic, it'll leave a big scratch.
It's not the end of the world though, as it's only the boot. Will report next week on the driving dynamics.
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@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
It only feels a bit cheap in the boot, when you open it up and it's just colossal levels of cheap crappy looking plastic.
I'm sure your victims will leave the appropriate view.

All jokes aside, our dog will travel in the boot a lot. And I think every time we went around a corner if she put her paw on the plastic, it'll leave a big scratch.
It's not the end of the world though, as it's only the boot. Will report next week on the driving dynamics.
I hear it is quite impressive in terms of where Kia has been, and where they are now.
It sort of looks like a hatch back, but is way too big when you see the dimensions. Same as the Ioniq5.
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@mariner4life said in Electric Vehicles:
BYD's buses are not great
okay, but not great.
In terms of anything specific? Performance? Reliability? Range? Comfort?
All of the above
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@majorrage said in Electric Vehicles:
It only feels a bit cheap in the boot, when you open it up and it's just colossal levels of cheap crappy looking plastic.
I'm sure your victims will leave the appropriate view.

All jokes aside, our dog will travel in the boot a lot. And I think every time we went around a corner if she put her paw on the plastic, it'll leave a big scratch.
It's not the end of the world though, as it's only the boot. Will report next week on the driving dynamics.
I hear it is quite impressive in terms of where Kia has been, and where they are now.
It sort of looks like a hatch back, but is way too big when you see the dimensions. Same as the Ioniq5.
Yes, that's exactly it. It's been a few years since I've driven a KIA and I was chatting to the salesman about it. He said their standard stuff is still behind the Germans, but nowhere near as far as it was. It had to come up though in order to offer 7 year warranties.
But the new one is a game changer - time will tell on lasting / degradation, but it feels a proper high quality product inside.
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Is your wife OK with it?
I think I remember you saying that she is (like my wife) a bit of a snob about what brands are Ok and which are not.
We can't get Hyundai or Kia here and it pisses me off as it would be welcome competition.