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Blues 2022

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Do you think Segner is a replacement for Gibson or Hunt?

    Given he is younger than Niko Jones I'd say Jones' chances of making the Blues has passed him by at this stage.

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    @bovidae said in Blues 2022:

    Do you think Segner is a replacement for Gibson or Hunt?

    It's not officially confirmed but there was a strong rumour that Choat was signed about the same time it was announced Gibson went to the Hurricanes

    So I assume this is a Hunt replacement

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    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

      @bovidae His development has been slow since leaving school straight into the NZ sevens environment where he hardly got a game. Then with Auckland he has only occasionally made the bench on match days, stuck behind Gibson and Choat. The complete change of environment and living independently should accelerate his development.

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      @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2022:

      His development has been slow since leaving school straight into the NZ sevens environment where he hardly got a game. Then with Auckland he has only occasionally made the bench on match days, stuck behind Gibson and Choat. The complete change of environment and living independently should accelerate his development.

      He really needed to make an impact in this years NPC to get into a SR squad.

      I agree he was likely to be stuck behind Choat/Gibson again.. however covid took away any chance he had of forcing his way up the rankings

      A US stint seems like a good move. He needs to play.

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2022:

        I watched that on Sky the other day. Very awesome.

        Love how he sounds just like a Kiwi kid (which would always happen)

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        @hooroo said in Blues 2022:

        @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2022:

        I watched that on Sky the other day. Very awesome.

        Love how he sounds just like a Kiwi kid (which would always happen)

        It's a great story.

        Most of the German's I met when I was over that way were monsters, they could have a great rugby team if it got popular. Reminded me of even more humourless South Africans.

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          @hooroo said in Blues 2022:

          @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2022:

          I watched that on Sky the other day. Very awesome.

          Love how he sounds just like a Kiwi kid (which would always happen)

          It's a great story.

          Most of the German's I met when I was over that way were monsters, they could have a great rugby team if it got popular. Reminded me of even more humourless South Africans.

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          @kirwan They beat France twice during the interwar period.

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          • TimT Tim

            @kirwan They beat France twice during the interwar period.

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            @tim said in Blues 2022:

            @kirwan They beat France twice during the interwar period.

            There's a WWII joke just sitting here.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @tim said in Blues 2022:

              @kirwan They beat France twice during the interwar period.

              There's a WWII joke just sitting here.

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              @kirwan said in Blues 2022:

              @tim said in Blues 2022:

              @kirwan They beat France twice during the interwar period.

              There's a WWII joke just sitting here.

              exactly my reaction! Too juicy a setup

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                https://mobile.twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1453452230556667906

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                @kiwimurph Bugger - now I've got to have conflicted loyalties on Segner.

                Unusual choice of destination, because the Blues are hardly short of loose forward options. He's probably got a harder path to a starting berth than he would have had at the Crusaders. But, maybe Razor wasn't offering a full contract.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @kiwimurph Bugger - now I've got to have conflicted loyalties on Segner.

                  Unusual choice of destination, because the Blues are hardly short of loose forward options. He's probably got a harder path to a starting berth than he would have had at the Crusaders. But, maybe Razor wasn't offering a full contract.

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                  @chris-b said in Blues 2022:

                  @kiwimurph Bugger - now I've got to have conflicted loyalties on Segner.

                  Unusual choice of destination, because the Blues are hardly short of loose forward options. He's probably got a harder path to a starting berth than he would have had at the Crusaders. But, maybe Razor wasn't offering a full contract.

                  Leon link again?

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2022:

                    His development has been slow since leaving school straight into the NZ sevens environment where he hardly got a game. Then with Auckland he has only occasionally made the bench on match days, stuck behind Gibson and Choat. The complete change of environment and living independently should accelerate his development.

                    He really needed to make an impact in this years NPC to get into a SR squad.

                    I agree he was likely to be stuck behind Choat/Gibson again.. however covid took away any chance he had of forcing his way up the rankings

                    A US stint seems like a good move. He needs to play.

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                    @duluth I know he is young and has some growing to do, but when they were up here in pre-season I thought he looked small and not as effective (in that and the other small bits I had seen of him) as some of the other loosies.

                    Especially when comparing him to the likes of Ekuasi and Vikena.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      @chris-b said in Blues 2022:

                      @kiwimurph Bugger - now I've got to have conflicted loyalties on Segner.

                      Unusual choice of destination, because the Blues are hardly short of loose forward options. He's probably got a harder path to a starting berth than he would have had at the Crusaders. But, maybe Razor wasn't offering a full contract.

                      Leon link again?

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                      @kirwan May well be - but, that should be starting to weaken.

                      I thought the Crusaders had Segner under lock and key.

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @kiwimurph Bugger - now I've got to have conflicted loyalties on Segner.

                        Unusual choice of destination, because the Blues are hardly short of loose forward options. He's probably got a harder path to a starting berth than he would have had at the Crusaders. But, maybe Razor wasn't offering a full contract.

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                        @chris-b said in Blues 2022:

                        @kiwimurph Bugger - now I've got to have conflicted loyalties on Segner.

                        Honestly, I had to check up on what position he played as the photo made him look like a halfback!

                        There is a congested loose forward set at the Blues ... hopefully he blossoms with us

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @kiwimurph Bugger - now I've got to have conflicted loyalties on Segner.

                          Unusual choice of destination, because the Blues are hardly short of loose forward options. He's probably got a harder path to a starting berth than he would have had at the Crusaders. But, maybe Razor wasn't offering a full contract.

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                          @chris-b Signing Matera was hardly an endorsement for local loose forwards looking for an opportunity. I am sure that the MacDonald connection played a part, and as a young player you'd rather have a guaranteed contract now. Let's see how long the contract is for.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @chris-b Signing Matera was hardly an endorsement for local loose forwards looking for an opportunity. I am sure that the MacDonald connection played a part, and as a young player you'd rather have a guaranteed contract now. Let's see how long the contract is for.

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                            @bovidae Three years.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              @bovidae Three years.

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                              @tim said in Blues 2022:

                              @bovidae Three years.

                              Is he moving for NPC as well of staying with the Invitational XV?

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @tim said in Blues 2022:

                                @bovidae Three years.

                                Is he moving for NPC as well of staying with the Invitational XV?

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                                @nepia No mention in the article. I would hope not, as Auckland already has Choat, Gibson, Cam Church, and Niko Jones at 7.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @nepia No mention in the article. I would hope not, as Auckland already has Choat, Gibson, Cam Church, and Niko Jones at 7.

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                                  @tim said in Blues 2022:

                                  @nepia No mention in the article. I would hope not, as Auckland already has Choat, Gibson, Cam Church, and Niko Jones at 7.

                                  Can't say I've heard of Cam Church. What about Harbour, how many 7s have they got floating around.

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @tim said in Blues 2022:

                                    @nepia No mention in the article. I would hope not, as Auckland already has Choat, Gibson, Cam Church, and Niko Jones at 7.

                                    Can't say I've heard of Cam Church. What about Harbour, how many 7s have they got floating around.

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                                    @nepia Might be a better fit. Tate Evans and Tim Sail are decent players. Think there is a good age group player coming through perhaps.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @tim said in Blues 2022:

                                      @nepia No mention in the article. I would hope not, as Auckland already has Choat, Gibson, Cam Church, and Niko Jones at 7.

                                      Can't say I've heard of Cam Church. What about Harbour, how many 7s have they got floating around.

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                                      @nepia said in Blues 2022:

                                      Can't say I've heard of Cam Church.

                                      He played in the same NZ Schools team as Segner. Segner was at 6. Church was the best NZ player in their loss to Aust. He wasn't the biggest no.7 then but looked very promising.

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                                        be good if the Blues nudged him further north if they were doing that, but the current model is supposed to avoid that isnt it.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @tim said in Blues 2022:

                                          @nepia No mention in the article. I would hope not, as Auckland already has Choat, Gibson, Cam Church, and Niko Jones at 7.

                                          Can't say I've heard of Cam Church. What about Harbour, how many 7s have they got floating around.

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                                          @nepia said in Blues 2022:

                                          Can't say I've heard of Cam Church

                                          Blues U20 and NZ U20 trialist, IIRC.

                                          From his NZ Schools bio:

                                          Cam Church led his Saint Kenitgern side to the National Co-ed title in 2019.

                                          The hard-working flanker leads from the front with his efforts and is hoping to follow in the footsteps of his father who played three seasons for Counties Manukau in the 1990s. It’s not only rugby in which Church has excelled, he has also competed to a national level in swimming and rowing.

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