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Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour

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  • M Machpants

    @bovidae said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:

    The Breakdown crew all expect Cane to be the captain in this test.

    Me too, and Vai’i and Lord lock, frizzle on the bench to cover.

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    @machpants said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:

    @bovidae said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:

    The Breakdown crew all expect Cane to be the captain in this test.

    Lord lock.

    Man that has a ring to it

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      The Breakdown crew all expect Cane to be the captain in this test.

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      @bovidae It wouldn't surprise me at all if that happens. I guess it all depends on whether he already considers him fit enough for this test to start. He won't be captain if he comes off the bench again.

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        It's Italy. This could be his first game back and we'd be fine.

        I wonder if DMac will get a chance to start at 10 again and if Tupaea gets more time at 12. However, just like against the USA, we're not going to learn much.

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          It will be pretty much everyone fit who didn't play vs Wales plus a few from the bench.

          DMac, Reece, Ennor, Tupaea, Bridge, Moúnga, Christie, Sotutu, Cane, Jacobsen, Vaa'i, Lord, Ofa, Coles, Bower

          De Groot, Aumua, Taávao, Frizell, AIoane, Weber, RIoane, JBarrett

          Assuming the props are all fit.

          Edit: It's possible that Havili will be in the 23, but if he is, I think that will be a pretty clear indication they're not going to use him in the next game.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            It's Italy. This could be his first game back and we'd be fine.

            I wonder if DMac will get a chance to start at 10 again and if Tupaea gets more time at 12. However, just like against the USA, we're not going to learn much.

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            @antipodean said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:

            It's Italy. This could be his first game back and we'd be fine.

            I wonder if DMac will get a chance to start at 10 again and if Tupaea gets more time at 12. However, just like against the USA, we're not going to learn much.

            Wouldn't have thought. Thinking @Chris-B is pretty close. Mo'unga to start on rotation and trial, but maybe BB comes off the pine covering fullback and 10?

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            • boobooB booboo

              @antipodean said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:

              It's Italy. This could be his first game back and we'd be fine.

              I wonder if DMac will get a chance to start at 10 again and if Tupaea gets more time at 12. However, just like against the USA, we're not going to learn much.

              Wouldn't have thought. Thinking @Chris-B is pretty close. Mo'unga to start on rotation and trial, but maybe BB comes off the pine covering fullback and 10?

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              @booboo I don't think BB will play, because that would mean five games in a row for him - and likely starting the big three tests.

              Richie will have to do five games, but he skipped TRC and will have at least two big ones from the bench.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                It will be pretty much everyone fit who didn't play vs Wales plus a few from the bench.

                DMac, Reece, Ennor, Tupaea, Bridge, Moúnga, Christie, Sotutu, Cane, Jacobsen, Vaa'i, Lord, Ofa, Coles, Bower

                De Groot, Aumua, Taávao, Frizell, AIoane, Weber, RIoane, JBarrett

                Assuming the props are all fit.

                Edit: It's possible that Havili will be in the 23, but if he is, I think that will be a pretty clear indication they're not going to use him in the next game.

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                @chris-b said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:

                It will be pretty much everyone fit who didn't play vs Wales plus a few from the bench.

                DMac, Reece, Ennor, Tupaea, Bridge, Moúnga, Christie, Sotutu, Cane, Jacobsen, Tupaea, Lord, Ofa, Coles, Bower

                De Groot, Aumua, Taávao, Frizell, AIoane, Weber, RIoane, JBarrett

                Assuming the props are all fit.

                Edit: It's possible that Havili will be in the 23, but if he is, I think that will be a pretty clear indication they're not going to use him in the next game.

                R Ioane has played a ton this year, the most minutes maybe? I think he’ll get a rest, maybe Jordie too - both too important to risk. I think they’ll have Havili on the bench covering mid/FB, and Jordan for wing. Havili needs to get back upto speed after a trio of poor performances.

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                • M Machpants

                  @chris-b said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:

                  It will be pretty much everyone fit who didn't play vs Wales plus a few from the bench.

                  DMac, Reece, Ennor, Tupaea, Bridge, Moúnga, Christie, Sotutu, Cane, Jacobsen, Tupaea, Lord, Ofa, Coles, Bower

                  De Groot, Aumua, Taávao, Frizell, AIoane, Weber, RIoane, JBarrett

                  Assuming the props are all fit.

                  Edit: It's possible that Havili will be in the 23, but if he is, I think that will be a pretty clear indication they're not going to use him in the next game.

                  R Ioane has played a ton this year, the most minutes maybe? I think he’ll get a rest, maybe Jordie too - both too important to risk. I think they’ll have Havili on the bench covering mid/FB, and Jordan for wing. Havili needs to get back upto speed after a trio of poor performances.

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                  @machpants I don't think they will play Jordan, because that would likely mean five games in a row for him on EOYT.

                  I think Jordie and Rieko - because they didn't play at all vs USA. But, they might not get off the bench unless someone is injured.

                  I don't think Havili needs more game time - but, he is the only other back who skipped the USA game.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    It will be pretty much everyone fit who didn't play vs Wales plus a few from the bench.

                    DMac, Reece, Ennor, Tupaea, Bridge, Moúnga, Christie, Sotutu, Cane, Jacobsen, Vaa'i, Lord, Ofa, Coles, Bower

                    De Groot, Aumua, Taávao, Frizell, AIoane, Weber, RIoane, JBarrett

                    Assuming the props are all fit.

                    Edit: It's possible that Havili will be in the 23, but if he is, I think that will be a pretty clear indication they're not going to use him in the next game.

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                    @chris-b Quinn is going to be busy in your team. 😉

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @chris-b Quinn is going to be busy in your team. 😉

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                      @bovidae So he is. Someone else made the reverse mistake the other day I think! 🙂

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @machpants I don't think they will play Jordan, because that would likely mean five games in a row for him on EOYT.

                        I think Jordie and Rieko - because they didn't play at all vs USA. But, they might not get off the bench unless someone is injured.

                        I don't think Havili needs more game time - but, he is the only other back who skipped the USA game.

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                        @chris-b said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:

                        @machpants I don't think they will play Jordan, because that would likely mean five games in a row for him on EOYT.

                        I think Jordie and Rieko - because they didn't play at all vs USA. But, they might not get off the bench unless someone is injured.

                        I don't think Havili needs more game time.

                        It's sad when even the locals have given up on you.

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                          @chris-b said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:

                          @machpants I don't think they will play Jordan, because that would likely mean five games in a row for him on EOYT.

                          I think Jordie and Rieko - because they didn't play at all vs USA. But, they might not get off the bench unless someone is injured.

                          I don't think Havili needs more game time.

                          It's sad when even the locals have given up on you.

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                          @gt12 He's played an awful lot of second-five this year, for a guy who probably spent his off-season preparing to play fullback.

                          I'm still expecting him to play the last two tests - though that's not a certainty.

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                            This is one of the strongest squads for many a year The second XV would give the first a run for its money

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                              This is one of the strongest squads for many a year The second XV would give the first a run for its money

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                              @berniescorner said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:

                              This is one of the strongest squads for many a year The second XV would give the first a run for its money

                              Which is as it should be.

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                                This is one of the strongest squads for many a year The second XV would give the first a run for its money

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                                @berniescorner yes I definitely agree and when you got the likes of Scott Barrett,Patrick tuipolotu,Caleb Clarke and Peter umaga jenson(in my opinion should be in the squad) to add to that squad and some exciting players not capped such as Jonah nareki,folau faketava,devan Flanders and kini naholo(if he stays injury free) who I hope will be capped sooner rather than later

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                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300443263/all-blacks-vs-italy-brad-mooar-praises-attacking-edge-as-focus-switches-to-azzurri

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                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300445090/all-blacks-to-welcome-back-sam-cane-dane-coles-but-no-brodie-retallick

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                                      Looks like loose trio will be Cane/Frizell/Sotutu, which has a nice balance.

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                                        Tough on luke jacobson

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                                          Looks like loose trio will be Cane/Frizell/Sotutu, which has a nice balance.

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                                          @pakman nothing with Frizzel in it is balanced.

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