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  • Kid ChocolateK Kid Chocolate

    Up until Friday nobody knew VE was even going to start in the Cup. McDonald has just lost his ride, and I don’t recall Waller ever mentioning at any time this year that she was targeting the Melbourne Cup. Really seemed like an afterthought. Small horse, big weight, and she exploded on them. She could have gone another 400m and drawn more daylight.

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    Three days ago!!!

    I’m looking forward to comments, but if I had to guess, if JMac doesn’t get scratched off that import Away He Goes early in the week, and J-Mac doesn’t ride that morning workout, then I’m guessing Waller doesn’t even enter VE in the race. James must’ve sold him.

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    @kid-chocolate To be honest, I just looked at the weight she had to carry and discounted her.

    When Incentivise hit the front, I was just congratulating myself on backing the sure thing, when she sprinted past and no-one even looked like catching her.

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      and incredibly, she is by Zed. Who was only about $1500 service fee.

      Freak!

      Loved it!

      Cried!

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        I saw some where

        Jmac Supreme Halberg
        Waller - Coach of the year Halberg
        Jmac/Waller/Verry Ellegant Team of the year Halberg!

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          and incredibly, she is by Zed. Who was only about $1500 service fee.

          Freak!

          Loved it!

          Cried!

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          @hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

          and incredibly, she is by Zed. Who was only about $1500 service fee.

          Freak!

          Loved it!

          Cried!

          Having gone and rooted some Clydesdale mares in the back blocks of the Canterbury High Country after being moved on from his first stud.

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            and incredibly, she is by Zed. Who was only about $1500 service fee.

            Freak!

            Loved it!

            Cried!

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            @hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

            and incredibly, she is by Zed. Who was only about $1500 service fee.

            Freak!

            Loved it!

            Cried!

            I read somewhere today it was a $500 stud fee!!!!

            I watched the race at midnight, stayed up until 4:30 a.m. wired and buzzing, had a real hard time getting up for work two hours later.

            The trifecta payout was sadly kinda chalky, my 60-center (4-2-3) paid $198, but my 20-cent superfecta (first 4 finishers) paid me $588, and I hit the 20-cent quaddie for $768. (I also hit the early and late Randwick quaddies.) Wagered $250 total, so had a good night. But really, I didn’t give a crap about the dividends, it was all about the champion.

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              @hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

              and incredibly, she is by Zed. Who was only about $1500 service fee.

              Freak!

              Loved it!

              Cried!

              I read somewhere today it was a $500 stud fee!!!!

              I watched the race at midnight, stayed up until 4:30 a.m. wired and buzzing, had a real hard time getting up for work two hours later.

              The trifecta payout was sadly kinda chalky, my 60-center (4-2-3) paid $198, but my 20-cent superfecta (first 4 finishers) paid me $588, and I hit the 20-cent quaddie for $768. (I also hit the early and late Randwick quaddies.) Wagered $250 total, so had a good night. But really, I didn’t give a crap about the dividends, it was all about the champion.

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              @kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:

              @hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

              and incredibly, she is by Zed. Who was only about $1500 service fee.

              Freak!

              Loved it!

              Cried!

              I read somewhere today it was a $500 stud fee!!!!

              I watched the race at midnight, stayed up until 4:30 a.m. wired and buzzing, had a real hard time getting up for work two hours later.

              The trifecta payout was sadly kinda chalky, my 60-center (4-2-3) paid $198, but my 20-cent superfecta (first 4 finishers) paid me $588, and I hit the 20-cent quaddie for $768. (I also hit the early and late Randwick quaddies.) Wagered $250 total, so had a good night. But really, I didn’t give a crap about the dividends, it was all about the champion.

              That was his original price.

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              • SmudgeS Smudge

                @hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

                and incredibly, she is by Zed. Who was only about $1500 service fee.

                Freak!

                Loved it!

                Cried!

                Having gone and rooted some Clydesdale mares in the back blocks of the Canterbury High Country after being moved on from his first stud.

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                Chris B.
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                @smudge said in Rough tips and other bets...:

                @hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

                and incredibly, she is by Zed. Who was only about $1500 service fee.

                Freak!

                Loved it!

                Cried!

                Having gone and rooted some Clydesdale mares in the back blocks of the Canterbury High Country after being moved on from his first stud.

                I wonder if they changed those mares' names to Marsellus and Wallace.

                https://pulpfiction.fandom.com/wiki/Marsellus_Wallace

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                  Also, for all those people south of the Bombays who disliked All Blacks flanker Mark Carter, you have another reason now. He's in the ownership of Verry Elleegant.

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    and incredibly, she is by Zed. Who was only about $1500 service fee.

                    Freak!

                    Loved it!

                    Cried!

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                    @hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

                    Cried!

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                      There wasa funny scene on live tv after the Cup where McDonald and Waller are on split screen remotes, and the NZ connection is mentioned and JMac playfully accuses Waller of “probably thinks he’s an Aussie,” and Waller refuted, mentioned he and his wife are proud Kiwis. Reminded me when I read Callander’s weekly column:

                      THE RISE AND RISE OF CHRISTOPHER JOHN WALLER

                      What a success the humble horse trainer Chris Waller has become.

                      Chris Waller possessed just two things when he arrived in Australia 22 years ago: debt and a dream.

                      He now ranks alongside Bart Cummings and Don Bradman, Tommy Smith and Dawn Fraser as superstars of Aussie sport.

                      Phar Lap was born in New Zealand and we claimed him, surely we can now claim Chris Waller too.

                      I promise you he cheers for Australia in every sport, except when it comes to the All Blacks.

                      […]

                      https://www.racenet.com.au/news/waller-joins-the-greats-of-aussie-sport-with-melbourne-cup-triumph

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                        #2676

                        I did not know this about the silks.

                        “Goodwin and Bishara retained a percentage share in Verry Elleegant as a condition of sale. She continued to race in his red-and-blue colours, too, taken from his old rugby club Suburbs in Auckland.”

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/horowhenua-chronicle/news/levin-horseman-dick-limbert-never-forgot-melbourne-cup-winner-verry-elleegant/EJXHWBYV4DOISKLMHCJ4KHADEQ/

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                        • Kid ChocolateK Kid Chocolate

                          I did not know this about the silks.

                          “Goodwin and Bishara retained a percentage share in Verry Elleegant as a condition of sale. She continued to race in his red-and-blue colours, too, taken from his old rugby club Suburbs in Auckland.”

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/horowhenua-chronicle/news/levin-horseman-dick-limbert-never-forgot-melbourne-cup-winner-verry-elleegant/EJXHWBYV4DOISKLMHCJ4KHADEQ/

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                          @kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:

                          I did not know this about the silks.

                          “Goodwin and Bishara retained a percentage share in Verry Elleegant as a condition of sale. She continued to race in his red-and-blue colours, too, taken from his old rugby club Suburbs in Auckland.”

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/horowhenua-chronicle/news/levin-horseman-dick-limbert-never-forgot-melbourne-cup-winner-verry-elleegant/EJXHWBYV4DOISKLMHCJ4KHADEQ/

                          and Goodwin gets all the trophies too. The Melbourne Cup itself is worth $250k I think

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                              I have been wagering on the ponies since 1973. Almost fifty years. And yesterday was the most enraged I’ve ever been. I started to write a post above, but figured I should calm down and sleep on it first. I’m still pissed. I had Godolphin’s MODERN GAMES (t. Charlie Appleby; j. Frankie D) alive in a pair of quaddies, singled in one of them. To watch him stroll home so far in front to win had me spitting nails incensed, but was music to my ears to hear him getting shouted down with boos. Not for the horse’s sake, but the governing body. This was an especially bad farce b/c it wasn’t any ol’ race at a country track, this was a million-dollar G1 championship.

                              Breeders' Cup: Horseplayers up in arms over Juvenile Turf scratch snafu

                              The Friday running of the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf at Del Mar has left bettors once again infuriated by the racing industry’s procedures and protocols, with social media abuzz with claims from longtime horseplayers that their confidence and enthusiasm for the sport has been irretrievably shaken.

                              […]

                              https://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup-horseplayers-arms-over-juvenile-turf-scratch-snafu

                              How it started:

                              How it ended:

                              The Official “quick ‘n dirty assessment” of what happened, notably absent is any concern for bettors:

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                                Ouch, almost everything I won on VE I’m flushing away at todays’ Breeders Cup. Japanese horses are killing me. The Classic goes in just over an hour. Will likely settle American Horse of the Year honours. I’ve got 5. KNICKS GO on top. Playing a 20-cent superfecta 5/3,4,9/1,3,4,6,8,9/ALL ($15 total).

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                                  Very nice win for Polly Grey at Rosehill, won ATC Cup with J-Mac aboard. I didn’t take the bet though, was 1/5 with three minutes to post. Drifted to $3 by racetime, I should have put a few on.

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                                    Very nice win for Polly Grey at Rosehill, won ATC Cup with J-Mac aboard. I didn’t take the bet though, was 1/5 with three minutes to post. Drifted to $3 by racetime, I should have put a few on.

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                                    @kid-chocolate said in Rough tips and other bets...:

                                    Very nice win for Polly Grey at Rosehill, won ATC Cup with J-Mac aboard. I didn’t take the bet though, was 1/5 with three minutes to post. Drifted to $3 by racetime, I should have put a few on.

                                    Polly, J Mac, wet track, 2000m easy win 😀my bank balance happy today (got fixed a odds at $6)

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                                      Was an easy watch in the end.

                                      JMac had her so relaxed her ears were flopping along the back straight. Never seen her like that before. Once she got to the 1000m he switched her on to win mode.

                                      4th Black type win for her over there.

                                      We love Pol Pol.

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                                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                                        Was an easy watch in the end.

                                        JMac had her so relaxed her ears were flopping along the back straight. Never seen her like that before. Once she got to the 1000m he switched her on to win mode.

                                        4th Black type win for her over there.

                                        We love Pol Pol.

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                                        @hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

                                        Was an easy watch in the end.

                                        JMac had her so relaxed her ears were flopping along the back straight. Never seen her like that before. Once she got to the 1000m he switched her on to win mode.

                                        4th Black type win for her over there.

                                        We love Pol Pol.

                                        We sure do.

                                        $11 early boosted but 17% deductions. All on the nose too. Happy days and congrats again Rob. She's some horse.

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                                          @hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

                                          Was an easy watch in the end.

                                          JMac had her so relaxed her ears were flopping along the back straight. Never seen her like that before. Once she got to the 1000m he switched her on to win mode.

                                          4th Black type win for her over there.

                                          We love Pol Pol.

                                          We sure do.

                                          $11 early boosted but 17% deductions. All on the nose too. Happy days and congrats again Rob. She's some horse.

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                                          @jk said in Rough tips and other bets...:

                                          @hooroo said in Rough tips and other bets...:

                                          Was an easy watch in the end.

                                          JMac had her so relaxed her ears were flopping along the back straight. Never seen her like that before. Once she got to the 1000m he switched her on to win mode.

                                          4th Black type win for her over there.

                                          We love Pol Pol.

                                          We sure do.

                                          $11 early boosted but 17% deductions. All on the nose too. Happy days and congrats again Rob. She's some horse.

                                          Name drop! 🙂 Ha ha

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