• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
allblacksireland
1.5k Posts 87 Posters 126.6k Views
All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • sparkyS Offline
    sparkyS Offline
    sparky
    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by sparky
    #174

    @billy-tell Every single one of them NZ players is from an island in the Southern Sea.

    JCJ 1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    wrote on last edited by
    #175

    Very interesting loosie combo, 2 x 6.5s and a 7.

    I think the best balance currently, without a fit Cane, is AI, LJ, AS slightly ahead of AI, LJ and DP.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • JCJ Offline
    JCJ Offline
    JC
    replied to sparky on last edited by
    #176

    @sparky At least we’ve stopped poaching all of Tokoroa’s best players. That was embarrassing when we got caught doing that.

    sparkyS 1 Reply Last reply
    6
  • HoorooH Offline
    HoorooH Offline
    Hooroo
    wrote on last edited by
    #177

    Havilli on the bench to come on and add SFA.

    Akira to come on and power his way in the last 20-30 mins after Blackadder has done all the graft and hard work. I like that.

    we will be 5 points down with 30 to go and Christie will come on with Mounga and ignite the backs!

    Victor MeldrewV Dan54D 2 Replies Last reply
    1
  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
    Victor MeldrewV Offline
    Victor Meldrew
    replied to Hooroo on last edited by
    #178

    @hooroo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    we will be 5 points down with 30 to go and Christie will come on with Mounga and ignite the backs!

    Or we will be two points ahead Jordie Barret will slap the ball down to stop an Irish attack, give away a penalty and Ireland will win by one point.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • sparkyS Offline
    sparkyS Offline
    sparky
    replied to JC on last edited by
    #179

    @jc There's still Chelsea Alley in the Black Ferns who is a poach from Tokoroa.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • Dan54D Offline
    Dan54D Offline
    Dan54
    replied to Hooroo on last edited by
    #180

    @hooroo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    Havilli on the bench to come on and add SFA.

    Akira to come on and power his way in the last 20-30 mins after Blackadder has done all the graft and hard work. I like that.

    we will be 5 points down with 30 to go and Christie will come on with Mounga and ignite the backs!

    I agree a bit Horoo, like the team, and I personally think RMo will be best against a tiring defence, as I not convinced he handles rush defence well. In saying that am fairly comfortable with whichever one starts at 10

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by
    #181

    So three O'kiwis starting for the Emerald Isle and not one of them had a shit show of making the ABs.

    Right timing and maybe, just maybe Aki might have made black but it would have been dependent on injuries and availability of others. He wouldn't have been likely to have a chance of growing into the role as he has had over there.

    Equal number of Chiefs in either 23.

    MN5M Billy TellB 2 Replies Last reply
    1
  • MN5M Offline
    MN5M Offline
    MN5
    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #182

    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    So three O'kiwis starting for the Emerald Isle and not one of them had a shit show of making the ABs.

    Right timing and maybe, just maybe Aki might have made black but it would have been dependent on injuries and availability of others. He wouldn't have been likely to have a chance of growing into the role as he has had over there.

    Equal number of Chiefs in either 23.

    Fuck, I’d have taken James Lowe over George Bridge any day of the week ending in Y but maybe that’s just me.

    CrucialC 1 Reply Last reply
    6
  • KirwanK Offline
    KirwanK Offline
    Kirwan
    wrote on last edited by
    #183

    That's the best centre pairing IMO, so pleased to see that. Also good to see them reward BB with the ten jersey, as I said last week now that the goalkicking is handled by JB they can just pick the best ten on form. Right now that's comfortably BB, and the backs outside of him will enjoy the extra space.

    It was also interesting to see them previously trying RM at fullback too.

    I'd swap the halfbacks on form as well, but perhaps TJ's lack of composure recently counts against him being the bench player.

    As for the forwards, if you pick Coles IMO you need to start him, ST has provided real impact from the bench and would have kept that.

    For all the talk from Plummer about wanting to dominate in the forwards, we are picking a mobile pack over a ball running, physical pack, starting at eight. And obviously, I think Akira and Blackadder should be switched but if they give Akira a good 30mins we can get the impact we'll need from his defence.

    So I worry out plan is to go wide too early still, we look a better side when we flood the breakdown and do a few pick and goes before using the pace out wide. We've not picked the team to play that way though.

    Really pleased to see Reece start too.

    BovidaeB antipodeanA 2 Replies Last reply
    6
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #184

    @mn5 said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    So three O'kiwis starting for the Emerald Isle and not one of them had a shit show of making the ABs.

    Right timing and maybe, just maybe Aki might have made black but it would have been dependent on injuries and availability of others. He wouldn't have been likely to have a chance of growing into the role as he has had over there.

    Equal number of Chiefs in either 23.

    Fuck, I’d have taken James Lowe over George Bridge any day of the week ending in Y but maybe that’s just me.

    Agree, but somehow Bridge was being creamed over and talked up yet Lowe was put down as flakey (and he can be).
    Point is that Lowe got nowhere near selection.

    MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • MN5M Offline
    MN5M Offline
    MN5
    replied to Crucial on last edited by MN5
    #185

    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @mn5 said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    So three O'kiwis starting for the Emerald Isle and not one of them had a shit show of making the ABs.

    Right timing and maybe, just maybe Aki might have made black but it would have been dependent on injuries and availability of others. He wouldn't have been likely to have a chance of growing into the role as he has had over there.

    Equal number of Chiefs in either 23.

    Fuck, I’d have taken James Lowe over George Bridge any day of the week ending in Y but maybe that’s just me.

    Agree, but somehow Bridge was being creamed over and talked up yet Lowe was put down as flakey (and he can be).
    Point is that Lowe got nowhere near selection.

    Ok, as long as you agree because talking up Bridge is a bit frowned up in these here parts.

    CrucialC 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #186

    @mn5 said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @mn5 said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    So three O'kiwis starting for the Emerald Isle and not one of them had a shit show of making the ABs.

    Right timing and maybe, just maybe Aki might have made black but it would have been dependent on injuries and availability of others. He wouldn't have been likely to have a chance of growing into the role as he has had over there.

    Equal number of Chiefs in either 23.

    Fuck, I’d have taken James Lowe over George Bridge any day of the week ending in Y but maybe that’s just me.

    Agree, but somehow Bridge was being creamed over and talked up yet Lowe was put down as flakey (and he can be).
    Point is that Lowe got nowhere near selection.

    Ok, as long as you agree because talking up Bridge is a bit frowned up in there here parts.

    The Crusader Mafia did all the talking and somehow convinced everyone that he had the goods.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • BovidaeB Offline
    BovidaeB Offline
    Bovidae
    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
    #187

    @kirwan said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    And obviously, I think Akira and Blackadder should be switched but if they give Akira a good 30mins we can get the impact we'll need from his defence.

    Yep, Akira only got 15 mins off the bench against Wales, which really isn't a lot of time to make an impact.

    I'll be interested to see how Mo'unga and Havili are used. I would assume that Rieko moves to the wing to accommodate Havili in the midfield.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • Billy TellB Offline
    Billy TellB Offline
    Billy Tell
    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #188

    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    So three O'kiwis starting for the Emerald Isle and not one of them had a shit show of making the ABs.

    Right timing and maybe, just maybe Aki might have made black but it would have been dependent on injuries and availability of others. He wouldn't have been likely to have a chance of growing into the role as he has had over there.

    Equal number of Chiefs in either 23.

    JGP has improved a good bit. I always rated Aki higher than Francis Saili. Lowe has defence issues but he is handy enough on attack.

    Aki could well made the ABs, the other 2 I tend to agree not.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • No QuarterN Offline
    No QuarterN Offline
    No Quarter
    wrote on last edited by
    #189

    Happy with the team, only gripes is Akira should really start against a big and fired up Irish pack, and Havili offers nothing from the bench - he either starts or doesn't play for mine.

    Mo'unga has carved up from the bench in the past, that role suits him as he gets to use his jinking running game against tiring defenses. Beauden is definitely in better form and handles the physical stuff a lot better so good to see him start again.

    Very excited about the midfield, that's a much better balance and Rieko could wreck some havoc outside of ALB. Reece has been in good form which allows us to move Rieko in closer which is great.

    Should be cracker of a game, can't wait.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by Crucial
    #190

    Third test up north and we've had no aura, haka or poaching stories. This tour is about as real as the moon landing.

    KiwiwombleK StargazerS dogmeatD nostrildamusN 4 Replies Last reply
    6
  • KiwiwombleK Offline
    KiwiwombleK Offline
    Kiwiwomble
    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #191

    @crucial ...i think its because we've lost so much of the first one...the other things dont seem like a big deal

    Crazy HorseC 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #192

    @crucial They've used the loss of aura story for the Black Ferns now.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • Crazy HorseC Offline
    Crazy HorseC Offline
    Crazy Horse
    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
    #193

    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @crucial ...i think its because we've lost so much of the first one...the other things dont seem like a big deal

    And nowadays they poach as much as we do so they can't really go on about that either...

    1 Reply Last reply
    1

All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour
Rugby Matches
allblacksireland
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.