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All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour

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  • sparkyS sparky
    1. Moody
    2. Samisoni
    3. Ofa T
    4. Vaii
    5. Whitelock
    6. A. Ioane
    7. D. Papail'i
    8. H. Sotutu
    9. F. Christie
    10. R. Mo'unga
    11. R. Ioane
    12. Havili
    13. Tupaea
    14. Jordan
    15. J. Barrett
    16. D. Coles
    17. Karl T
    18. Laulala
    19. Retallick
    20. S. Cane
    21. A. Smith
    22. D. Mac
    23. B. Ennor

    Worried about his game. France are good and their half back, Dupont, is fantastic.

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    @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

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      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

      @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

      And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

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        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

        @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

        And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

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        @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

        @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

        And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

        you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
        Just like the last one. Oh.

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          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

          @berniescorner said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

          1 moody (De Groot on bench?)
          2 Samisoni
          3 Toughie! Is Ofa available?
          4 Retallick (Vaa'i bench cover for lock)
          5 Whitelock
          6 Jacobson or Akira Ioane
          7 Papalii yeah I'm guessing they won't risk Cane
          8 Sotutu or Jacobson I'm guessing with Ardie on bench (or will they play Ardie at 8 and bench Blackadder?)
          9 Smith (and Weber?)
          10 Barrett nope as Chris says, has to be Richie
          11 R Ioane nope due to 13 issue, Reece or Foster may pick the pace and power of Bridge
          12 Tupaea yes
          13 ALB Has to be Ioane, only alternative is Ennor?
          14 Jordan
          15 J Barrett

          I would give Retallick the bench spot. He is not going to be there for next World Cup. Akira has to start, Paps and Savea because they won’t look past him. Not my choice at 8 though. The props are another issue.

          But as to preparation I would tell the backs to remember the days the ball did not get past the 2nd five until we learn how to play up the middle. It’s simple. You win games against good teams in the forwards.

          I

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          @broughie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

          @berniescorner said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

          1 moody (De Groot on bench?)
          2 Samisoni
          3 Toughie! Is Ofa available?
          4 Retallick (Vaa'i bench cover for lock)
          5 Whitelock
          6 Jacobson or Akira Ioane
          7 Papalii yeah I'm guessing they won't risk Cane
          8 Sotutu or Jacobson I'm guessing with Ardie on bench (or will they play Ardie at 8 and bench Blackadder?)
          9 Smith (and Weber?)
          10 Barrett nope as Chris says, has to be Richie
          11 R Ioane nope due to 13 issue, Reece or Foster may pick the pace and power of Bridge
          12 Tupaea yes
          13 ALB Has to be Ioane, only alternative is Ennor?
          14 Jordan
          15 J Barrett

          I would give Retallick the bench spot. He is not going to be there for next World Cup. Akira has to start, Paps and Savea because they won’t look past him. Not my choice at 8 though. The props are another issue.

          But as to preparation I would tell the backs to remember the days the ball did not get past the 2nd five until we learn how to play up the middle. It’s simple. You win games against good teams in the forwards.

          I

          I'm also worried about Sam Whitelock. His big engine has a lot of miles.

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            @broughie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

            @berniescorner said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

            1 moody (De Groot on bench?)
            2 Samisoni
            3 Toughie! Is Ofa available?
            4 Retallick (Vaa'i bench cover for lock)
            5 Whitelock
            6 Jacobson or Akira Ioane
            7 Papalii yeah I'm guessing they won't risk Cane
            8 Sotutu or Jacobson I'm guessing with Ardie on bench (or will they play Ardie at 8 and bench Blackadder?)
            9 Smith (and Weber?)
            10 Barrett nope as Chris says, has to be Richie
            11 R Ioane nope due to 13 issue, Reece or Foster may pick the pace and power of Bridge
            12 Tupaea yes
            13 ALB Has to be Ioane, only alternative is Ennor?
            14 Jordan
            15 J Barrett

            I would give Retallick the bench spot. He is not going to be there for next World Cup. Akira has to start, Paps and Savea because they won’t look past him. Not my choice at 8 though. The props are another issue.

            But as to preparation I would tell the backs to remember the days the ball did not get past the 2nd five until we learn how to play up the middle. It’s simple. You win games against good teams in the forwards.

            I

            I'm also worried about Sam Whitelock. His big engine has a lot of miles.

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            @nostrildamus Someone had the NZR needs to be firmer with the Crusaders and limit his ganeline with them. Every year, come November, Whitelock is running on fumes.

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              The thing is, our players rugby intelligence is being exposed. Ruthlessly.

              We don't have stronger, faster or more skilled players any more, and we don't have the rugby intelligence. It's really scary looking forward; sustained mediocrity is likely

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

                you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
                Just like the last one. Oh.

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                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

                you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
                Just like the last one. Oh.

                Very excited about it too! Excited to add another black mark on what was once a pretty shiny record... first loss to Ire, getting spanked by same, first loss to Arg, record loss to Oz, Record loss full stop, pathetic lame draw versus very limited Gatland Lions... the list goes on what the Late Hansen/Foster regime has acheived. Moments they will be proud of their learnings and growth

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  @nostrildamus Someone had the NZR needs to be firmer with the Crusaders and limit his ganeline with them. Every year, come November, Whitelock is running on fumes.

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                  @sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                  @nostrildamus Someone had the NZR needs to be firmer with the Crusaders and limit his ganeline with them. Every year, come November, Whitelock is running on fumes.

                  Yes and it is very noticeable with BBBR not quite at his peak.
                  I actually wondered if they were deliberately burying Brodie, he was on the ground a lot under bodies and unable to swoop with his big wingspan.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                    @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                    Main learning from this weekend is that the golden age of NZ Rugby is long gone. Big reform is needed to make us more competitive, but I don't see it happening any time soon.

                    France by 10+.

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                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                      @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                      @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                      And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

                      you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
                      Just like the last one. Oh.

                      Very excited about it too! Excited to add another black mark on what was once a pretty shiny record... first loss to Ire, getting spanked by same, first loss to Arg, record loss to Oz, Record loss full stop, pathetic lame draw versus very limited Gatland Lions... the list goes on what the Late Hansen/Foster regime has acheived. Moments they will be proud of their learnings and growth

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                      @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                      @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                      @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                      And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

                      you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
                      Just like the last one. Oh.

                      Very excited about it too! Excited to add another black mark on what was once a pretty shiny record... first loss to Ire, getting spanked by same, first loss to Arg, record loss to Oz, Record loss full stop, pathetic lame draw versus very limited Gatland Lions... the list goes on what the Late Hansen/Foster regime has acheived. Moments they will be proud of their learnings and growth

                      Plus Ireland probably now think they can win the majority of games against us.

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        The thing is, our players rugby intelligence is being exposed. Ruthlessly.

                        We don't have stronger, faster or more skilled players any more, and we don't have the rugby intelligence. It's really scary looking forward; sustained mediocrity is likely

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                        @nzzp covid has done alot of harm to rugby at all levels in nz, on and off the park.

                        Next year (and next week) is gonna be some tough times for nz rugby.

                        Poor coaching and planning at the top, limited super rugby, disrupted npc, messed up season with being away for so long, just a shit show really.

                        I ain't chicken littling, just think we best sit town, strap in and prepare for a ride...

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                          And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

                          you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
                          Just like the last one. Oh.

                          Very excited about it too! Excited to add another black mark on what was once a pretty shiny record... first loss to Ire, getting spanked by same, first loss to Arg, record loss to Oz, Record loss full stop, pathetic lame draw versus very limited Gatland Lions... the list goes on what the Late Hansen/Foster regime has acheived. Moments they will be proud of their learnings and growth

                          Plus Ireland probably now think they can win the majority of games against us.

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                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                          And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

                          you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
                          Just like the last one. Oh.

                          Very excited about it too! Excited to add another black mark on what was once a pretty shiny record... first loss to Ire, getting spanked by same, first loss to Arg, record loss to Oz, Record loss full stop, pathetic lame draw versus very limited Gatland Lions... the list goes on what the Late Hansen/Foster regime has acheived. Moments they will be proud of their learnings and growth

                          Plus Ireland probably now think they can win the majority of games against us.

                          Well, home games and neutral venues aside from RWCs I guess....

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                            Fuck Foster, fuck his assistants, fuck the NZR, fuck the NZ Rugby Media for pretending our mediocre team are World beaters.

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                              And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

                              you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
                              Just like the last one. Oh.

                              Very excited about it too! Excited to add another black mark on what was once a pretty shiny record... first loss to Ire, getting spanked by same, first loss to Arg, record loss to Oz, Record loss full stop, pathetic lame draw versus very limited Gatland Lions... the list goes on what the Late Hansen/Foster regime has acheived. Moments they will be proud of their learnings and growth

                              Plus Ireland probably now think they can win the majority of games against us.

                              Well, home games and neutral venues aside from RWCs I guess....

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                              @canefan said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                              And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

                              you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
                              Just like the last one. Oh.

                              Very excited about it too! Excited to add another black mark on what was once a pretty shiny record... first loss to Ire, getting spanked by same, first loss to Arg, record loss to Oz, Record loss full stop, pathetic lame draw versus very limited Gatland Lions... the list goes on what the Late Hansen/Foster regime has acheived. Moments they will be proud of their learnings and growth

                              Plus Ireland probably now think they can win the majority of games against us.

                              Well, home games and neutral venues aside from RWCs I guess....

                              I think they will be confident at RWCs as well. We shall see.

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                                @nostrildamus Someone had the NZR needs to be firmer with the Crusaders and limit his ganeline with them. Every year, come November, Whitelock is running on fumes.

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                                @sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                @nostrildamus Someone had the NZR needs to be firmer with the Crusaders and limit his ganeline with them. Every year, come November, Whitelock is running on fumes.

                                then at the ABs they should replace him earlier?

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                                • sparkyS sparky

                                  Fuck Foster, fuck his assistants, fuck the NZR, fuck the NZ Rugby Media for pretending our mediocre team are World beaters.

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                                  @sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  Fuck Foster, fuck his assistants, fuck the NZR, fuck the NZ Rugby Media for pretending our mediocre team are World beaters.

                                  I don't think the ABs are mediocre, they're just not the clear no 1 team from 2010-2015. The top 8 is now a lot more competitive, anyone can win against anyone on their day.

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                                    Another reason the Nations Cup would have been great, play the top teams every year, a good way to improve is to play the best consistently.

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @nostrildamus Someone had the NZR needs to be firmer with the Crusaders and limit his ganeline with them. Every year, come November, Whitelock is running on fumes.

                                      then at the ABs they should replace him earlier?

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                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @nostrildamus Someone had the NZR needs to be firmer with the Crusaders and limit his ganeline with them. Every year, come November, Whitelock is running on fumes.

                                      then at the ABs they should replace him earlier (in the game, with the bench lock)?

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                                        And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

                                        you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
                                        Just like the last one. Oh.

                                        Very excited about it too! Excited to add another black mark on what was once a pretty shiny record... first loss to Ire, getting spanked by same, first loss to Arg, record loss to Oz, Record loss full stop, pathetic lame draw versus very limited Gatland Lions... the list goes on what the Late Hansen/Foster regime has acheived. Moments they will be proud of their learnings and growth

                                        Plus Ireland probably now think they can win the majority of games against us.

                                        Well, home games and neutral venues aside from RWCs I guess....

                                        I think they will be confident at RWCs as well. We shall see.

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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @sparky dont be, we will get schooled, set yourself up for it now...

                                        And even if we do, NZR will be all about 'learnings' and 'growth' and 'how hard this tour was' rather than ditching Friar Foster the Mediocre

                                        you lack the faith! Foster and co are very prepared for this match!
                                        Just like the last one. Oh.

                                        Very excited about it too! Excited to add another black mark on what was once a pretty shiny record... first loss to Ire, getting spanked by same, first loss to Arg, record loss to Oz, Record loss full stop, pathetic lame draw versus very limited Gatland Lions... the list goes on what the Late Hansen/Foster regime has acheived. Moments they will be proud of their learnings and growth

                                        Plus Ireland probably now think they can win the majority of games against us.

                                        Well, home games and neutral venues aside from RWCs I guess....

                                        I think they will be confident at RWCs as well. We shall see.

                                        Yeah, the aura is waning on them

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          The thing is, our players rugby intelligence is being exposed. Ruthlessly.

                                          We don't have stronger, faster or more skilled players any more, and we don't have the rugby intelligence. It's really scary looking forward; sustained mediocrity is likely

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                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          The thing is, our players rugby intelligence is being exposed. Ruthlessly.

                                          We don't have stronger, faster or more skilled players any more, and we don't have the rugby intelligence. It's really scary looking forward; sustained mediocrity is likely

                                          Heretic. It's an accepted truth sacking Foster will make us world-beaters in weeks - read it on this inter-web thingy.

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