All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Fuck Foster, fuck his assistants, fuck the NZR, fuck the NZ Rugby Media for pretending our mediocre team are World beaters.
I don't think the ABs are mediocre, they're just not the clear no 1 team from 2010-2015. The top 8 is now a lot more competitive, anyone can win against anyone on their day.
@tordah said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Fuck Foster, fuck his assistants, fuck the NZR, fuck the NZ Rugby Media for pretending our mediocre team are World beaters.
I don't think the ABs are mediocre, they're just not the clear no 1 team from 2010-2015. The top 8 is now a lot more competitive, anyone can win against anyone on their day.
Yeah, I'm not finding the last two years (any) worse than 1998 or the early 00s or the early 90s.
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@victor-meldrew
That's a complete strawman. The point of getting Foster out is that he is not good enough. Simple as that. He was picked with zero credentials as a head coach and purely on nepotism. Probably 80% of fans didn't want him to get the job and we are proven right on a near weekly basis. When we rolled Italy, almost everyone knew we still played shockingly bad so this isn't a kneejerk to losing. I am happier losing when we play well than a comfortable win where we play poorly. Because I know rolling second tier team means nothing if the team isn't clinical, when you are clinical you can apply it to a higher level of opposition. I still think we have the players to be playing much better even if this isn't the 2015 vintage.Foster out is not a magic bullet or panacea, it's just a simple fact that he isn't good enough to be the coach of the number one ranked side.
@mofitzy_ said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
That's a complete strawman. The point of getting Foster out is that he is not good enough. Simple as that. He was picked with zero credentials as a head coach and purely on nepotism
Then the root problem isn't Foster, it's the nepotism. Fix that first otherwise it's papering over the cracks and the nepots undermining the new coach.
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@tordah said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Fuck Foster, fuck his assistants, fuck the NZR, fuck the NZ Rugby Media for pretending our mediocre team are World beaters.
I don't think the ABs are mediocre, they're just not the clear no 1 team from 2010-2015. The top 8 is now a lot more competitive, anyone can win against anyone on their day.
Yeah, I'm not finding the last two years (any) worse than 1998 or the early 00s or the early 90s.
@nepia I agree We have a solid base of good players. We are not using them well.
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The thing is, our players rugby intelligence is being exposed. Ruthlessly.
We don't have stronger, faster or more skilled players any more, and we don't have the rugby intelligence. It's really scary looking forward; sustained mediocrity is likely
@nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
The thing is, our players rugby intelligence is being exposed. Ruthlessly.
Exposed or negated?
The only wily one left seems to be Dan Coles. -
Its pretty obvious also (like JBs a good FB not a winger) that you can't win regularly if the forwards don't get and retain 50% possession.
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@tordah said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Fuck Foster, fuck his assistants, fuck the NZR, fuck the NZ Rugby Media for pretending our mediocre team are World beaters.
I don't think the ABs are mediocre, they're just not the clear no 1 team from 2010-2015. The top 8 is now a lot more competitive, anyone can win against anyone on their day.
Yeah, I'm not finding the last two years (any) worse than 1998 or the early 00s or the early 90s.
@nepia said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@tordah said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Fuck Foster, fuck his assistants, fuck the NZR, fuck the NZ Rugby Media for pretending our mediocre team are World beaters.
I don't think the ABs are mediocre, they're just not the clear no 1 team from 2010-2015. The top 8 is now a lot more competitive, anyone can win against anyone on their day.
Yeah, I'm not finding the last two years (any) worse than 1998 or the early 00s or the early 90s.
Since the 80s I've watched some of our greatest days and some of our darkest days. We've been spoiled since 2011. Being outmatched is an unwelcome and for most of the last 10 years unfamiliar. We need better cattle, a better plan. But it isnt going to happen overnight
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Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder….
We used to do better when I named my team
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Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder….
We used to do better when I named my team
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder….
We used to do better when I named my team
Keep going all the way to 11, I dare you!
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder….
We used to do better when I named my team
Keep going all the way to 11, I dare you!
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder….
We used to do better when I named my team
Keep going all the way to 11, I dare you!
What do you have against Reece?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder….
We used to do better when I named my team
Keep going all the way to 11, I dare you!
What do you have against Reece?
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder….
We used to do better when I named my team
Keep going all the way to 11, I dare you!
What do you have against Reece?
Actually I thought you were going to name Leicester instead!
Speaking of which, if Robertson was AB Coach, (a whatif indeed) I wonder who he'd pick as midfield.. -
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder….
We used to do better when I named my team
Keep going all the way to 11, I dare you!
What do you have against Reece?
Actually I thought you were going to name Leicester instead!
Speaking of which, if Robertson was AB Coach, (a whatif indeed) I wonder who he'd pick as midfield..@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder….
We used to do better when I named my team
Keep going all the way to 11, I dare you!
What do you have against Reece?
Actually I thought you were going to name Leicester instead!
Speaking of which, if Robertson was AB Coach, (a whatif indeed) I wonder who he'd pick as midfield..Goodhue and Ennor of course
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- Moody
- Samisoni
- Ofa T
- Vaii
- Whitelock
- A. Ioane
- D. Papail'i
- H. Sotutu
- F. Christie
- R. Mo'unga
- R. Ioane
- Havili
- Tupaea
- Jordan
- J. Barrett
- D. Coles
- Karl T
- Laulala
- Retallick
- S. Cane
- A. Smith
- D. Mac
- B. Ennor
Worried about his game. France are good and their half back, Dupont, is fantastic.
@sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
- Moody
- Samisoni
- Ofa T
- Vaii
- Whitelock
- A. Ioane
- D. Papail'i
- H. Sotutu
- F. Christie
- R. Mo'unga
- R. Ioane
- Havili
- Tupou
- Jordan
- J. Barrett
- D. Coles
- Karl T
- Laulala
- Retallick
- S. Cane
- A. Smith
- D. Mac
- B. Ennor
Worried about his game. France are good and their half back, Dupont, is fantastic.
Who is Tupou ?
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@stargazer a new one, we have had musical chairs already, so was expecting a change, although was one that would feature ALB...
@cgrant my guess is he meant Tupaea
Gee, midfield is a worry though!
I think they need to go Tupaea/Ioane, but expect they'll go Havili/Ioane.
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@victor-meldrew
That's a complete strawman. The point of getting Foster out is that he is not good enough. Simple as that. He was picked with zero credentials as a head coach and purely on nepotism. Probably 80% of fans didn't want him to get the job and we are proven right on a near weekly basis. When we rolled Italy, almost everyone knew we still played shockingly bad so this isn't a kneejerk to losing. I am happier losing when we play well than a comfortable win where we play poorly. Because I know rolling second tier team means nothing if the team isn't clinical, when you are clinical you can apply it to a higher level of opposition. I still think we have the players to be playing much better even if this isn't the 2015 vintage.Foster out is not a magic bullet or panacea, it's just a simple fact that he isn't good enough to be the coach of the number one ranked side.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
https://twitter.com/marchintonffx/status/1459954586593095682
Subluxed? Made up words!
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Moody, Taylor, Franks, Whitelock, Romano, S. Barrett, Blackadder….
We used to do better when I named my team
Keep going all the way to 11, I dare you!
What do you have against Reece?
Actually I thought you were going to name Leicester instead!
Speaking of which, if Robertson was AB Coach, (a whatif indeed) I wonder who he'd pick as midfield..@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Speaking of which, if Robertson was AB Coach, (a whatif indeed) I wonder who he'd pick as midfield..
Imagine the improvement Robertson would get out of George Bridge....
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- Moody
- Samisoni
- Ofa T
- Vaii
- Whitelock
- A. Ioane
- D. Papail'i
- H. Sotutu
- F. Christie
- R. Mo'unga
- R. Ioane
- Havili
- Tupaea
- Jordan
- J. Barrett
- D. Coles
- Karl T
- Laulala
- Retallick
- S. Cane
- A. Smith
- D. Mac
- B. Ennor
Worried about his game. France are good and their half back, Dupont, is fantastic.
@sparky said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
- Moody
- Samisoni
- Ofa T
- Vaii
- Whitelock
- A. Ioane
- D. Papail'i
- H. Sotutu
- F. Christie
- R. Mo'unga
- R. Ioane
- Havili
- Tupou
- Jordan
- J. Barrett
- D. Coles
- Karl T
- Laulala
- Retallick
- S. Cane
- A. Smith
- D. Mac
- B. Ennor
Worried about his game. France are good and their half back, Dupont, is fantastic.
Comedy Havilli??? Serial???
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@stargazer a new one, we have had musical chairs already, so was expecting a change, although was one that would feature ALB...
@cgrant my guess is he meant Tupaea
Gee, midfield is a worry though!
I think they need to go Tupaea/Ioane, but expect they'll go Havili/Ioane.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:
Gee, midfield is a worry though!
I think they need to go Tupaea/Ioane, but expect they'll go Havili/Ioane.Give Tupaea a start. Pretty much nothing left to lose at this stage at 12/13. Reiko hasn't developed much and Havili has gone backwards.
