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All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour

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    We also need to stop pretending that the current version Super Rugby is producing decent international level tight forwards. Or that Brodie is still “BBBR”, he hasn’t been at quite that level since 2016, and has barely been sighted in Super Rugby since about the 2017 season.

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      • DamoD Damo

        @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

        Do we need to start picking players from Europe?

        If the best players are playing there, we might need to recognize it.

        Definitely not. That would kill our game both domestically and for the All Blacks as well.

        Besides our best players are by and large still in NZ.

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        37-25 to France and really they were easily the better side.
        The ABs...apart from some shocking individual plays (worst 3 ABs would be an interesting poll) ... overall our combos have got WORSE as the season wore on...

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          Jeez, 40-25. Same old problems.

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          • gt12G gt12

            @damo said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

            @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

            Do we need to start picking players from Europe?

            If the best players are playing there, we might need to recognize it.

            Definitely not. That would kill our game both domestically and for the All Blacks as well.

            Besides our best players are by and large still in NZ.

            I agree with that, but the competition isn’t preparing them for test rugby.

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            @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

            @damo said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

            @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

            Do we need to start picking players from Europe?

            If the best players are playing there, we might need to recognize it.

            Definitely not. That would kill our game both domestically and for the All Blacks as well.

            Besides our best players are by and large still in NZ.

            I agree with that, but the competition isn’t preparing them for test rugby.

            One bad year when we lose 3 games and all of sudden the structures we have that have been so successful for so long are defective.?

            I think we need to keep things in perspective. We cannot win every game every time.

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              We are miles away from being a top four team right now.

              Is it easily fixed or is the tree rotting?

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                On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.

                Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @mofitzy_ keep it seemly or I will

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                  @booboo
                  Seemly is seemingly not criticising the coach?

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    Do we need to start picking players from Europe?

                    If the best players are playing there, we might need to recognize it.

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                    @gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                    Do we need to start picking players from Europe?

                    If the best players are playing there, we might need to recognize it.

                    I think we should in World Cup year.

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                      So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.

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                        The first 20 of the 2nd half showed that the players aren't as bad as what they have shown over the last two weeks. We are just being so badly coached.

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                          @booboo
                          Seemly is seemingly not criticising the coach?

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                          @mofitzy_ said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @booboo
                          Seemly is seemingly not criticising the coach?

                          Just the language and personal abuse.

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                            How good was Taukei'aho, easily the best thing to come out of this season. A annus horriblis for Foster. Or horrible anus for Fister.

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                            • No QuarterN No Quarter

                              So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.

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                              @no-quarter isn’t that the truth.

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                                We can close down the aura thread.

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                                  The first 20 of the 2nd half showed that the players aren't as bad as what they have shown over the last two weeks. We are just being so badly coached.

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                                    The first 20 of the 2nd half showed that the players aren't as bad as what they have shown over the last two weeks. We are just being so badly coached.

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                                    @akan004 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    The first 20 of the 2nd half showed that the players aren't as bad as what they have shown over the last two weeks. We are just being so badly coached.

                                    Badly selected - and the use of the subs is criminal.

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                                      These two losses probably a reality check where we are really at

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                                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                        So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.

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                                        @no-quarter said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.

                                        From static ball and with flat footed players. It's completely idiotic.

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                                          So why was Cane not subbed?

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