Wales v Australia

antipodean

@antipodean said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

The view from the near sideline shows it clearly went backwards.

To me it didn't clearly go forward on that replay after several goes looking at it, so it is just one of those that is unusual situations.

A lot of refs would have blown the whistle from that position when live.

Certainly. I agree they would and Wales would've been denied a legitimate try because a Brumbies player can't draw and pass adequately.

booboo

Haven't seen the game only the video of that Welsh try.

Are we arguing that it went forward? If we're not there's no argument. It's a fair try. Nothing the Welsh bloke did was wrong. He tried to play it backwards, and it went backwards.

It's the power of language that I keep banging on about on here.

Use of "deliberate knock down" has confused the issue and people think it's illegal to knock the ball down, extended to even knocking the ball backwards.

It's a deliberate knock on or forward.

Turinui and Plank describe it well here (although I disagree with "absurd", it's a game if inches and very fine margins though).

https://twitter.com/StanSportAU/status/1462171542821822464?t=0wRTtgvPxl7ar-JZwb8nFw&s=19

Machpants

Play the whistle, Muppets

Tim

So head clashes where the tackler is upright are red cards from now on? Seems like something that gets let go a lot.

Tim

Thomas very lucky not to be red carded.

A deliberate knock down is fine if it doesn't go forward?

NTA

@tim said in Wales v Australia:

A deliberate knock down is fine if it doesn't go forward?

By the laws, yes.

NTA

To add: that's the same for the ball carrier, too. If it goes straight down, play on.

Nepia

Just watched the highlights. I almost want to watch the whole game to see if the reffing is fucked all the way through.

Derpus

The knock down try is technically correct. The best kind of correct.

But would obviously have been pulled up by any other ref on any other day. So unlucky I suppose.

The various card decisions/non-decisions. Urgh. Is this what rugby is now? Just a ref wheel of fortune.

Kirwan

@tim said in Wales v Australia:

So head clashes where the tackler is upright are red cards from now on? Seems like something that gets let go a lot.

That was just weird. If you thought it was reckless, maybe yellow.

I guess starting at red for everything then working down is the problem.

gt12

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Edit: Saw the other angle, bloody lucky.

Machpants

@gt12 said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Of course, ball went backwards, play on

nostrildamus

@machpants said in Wales v Australia:

@gt12 said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Of course, ball went backwards, play on

did it go backwards? Didn't see it in the clip. Love the confused expression of the player, can I run ref, did I just get a yellow, can I run?

gibbon rib

Exciting game, Wales lucky, well played Aus.

Can't believe thay anyone is questioning the red card. Clearly dangerous and poor technique. Absolutely stonewall.

The Tompinks try was also undoubtedly the right decision, but incrediblely flukey for Wales, if it had gone a few inches the other way it would have been a penalty and quite possibly a yellow.

I've had a gutsful of the Aussie commentators (and I'm including Mehrts in that) ragging on the referees for every decision that goes against the Wallabies. Claiming that the Valentini card couldn't have been foul play because there was no intent, and the ref had a "howler" in correctly judging the known down went back. Don't be like South Africa guys.

To be fair the folks in the studio were pretty reasonable (Turanui, Plank and the Wallaroo whose name I didn't catch)

gibbon rib

@nostrildamus said in Wales v Australia:

@machpants said in Wales v Australia:

@gt12 said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Of course, ball went backwards, play on

did it go backwards? Didn't see it in the clip. Love the confused expression of the player, can I run ref, did I just get a yellow, can I run?

It did, but so close. Incredibly lucky. Ref was the only one who got it right in real time, pretty sure even Tompkins thought it had gone forward, but reacted quickly enough to the ref saying play on

nostrildamus

@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:

@nostrildamus said in Wales v Australia:

@machpants said in Wales v Australia:

@gt12 said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Of course, ball went backwards, play on

did it go backwards? Didn't see it in the clip. Love the confused expression of the player, can I run ref, did I just get a yellow, can I run?

It did, but so close. Incredibly lucky. Ref was the only one who got it right in real time, pretty sure even Tompkins thought it had gone forward, but reacted quickly enough to the ref saying play on

Thanks! Big call from the ref though, imagine if he got it wrong!

gibbon rib

@nostrildamus said in Wales v Australia:

@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:

@nostrildamus said in Wales v Australia:

@machpants said in Wales v Australia:

@gt12 said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Of course, ball went backwards, play on

did it go backwards? Didn't see it in the clip. Love the confused expression of the player, can I run ref, did I just get a yellow, can I run?

It did, but so close. Incredibly lucky. Ref was the only one who got it right in real time, pretty sure even Tompkins thought it had gone forward, but reacted quickly enough to the ref saying play on

Thanks! Big call from the ref though, imagine if he got it wrong!

Yeah, you'd have to assume the TMO would have picked it up in that case though (although they'd probably have needed 10 minutes and 20 camera angles to be sure)

barbarian

There's no doubt Wales got just about every 50/50 call, the Tomkins try included.

The worst call, though, was the collapsed maul turnover in about the 55th minute. A clear Wallaby penalty, with a case for a YC and maybe even a PT. And yet he somehow missed our ball carrier being dragged down from behind by a player not bound to the maul. Aggregious.

I was impressed with our heart, and ability to score tries with 14 men. It was a loss on the scoreboard but nowhere else.

gibbon rib

@barbarian said in Wales v Australia:

There's no doubt Wales got just about every 50/50 call, the Tomkins try included.

The worst call, though, was the collapsed maul turnover in about the 55th minute. A clear Wallaby penalty, with a case for a YC and maybe even a PT. And yet he somehow missed our ball carrier being dragged down from behind by a player not bound to the maul. Aggregious.

I was impressed with our heart, and ability to score tries with 14 men. It was a loss on the scoreboard but nowhere else.

Well neither the red card nor the Tompkins try were anything like a 50/50. It went back, and you can't give a knock on for a ball that goes back.

Was the maul the one in the corner near the Welsh try line? Agree that should have been a Wallabies pen

nostrildamus

@barbarian said in Wales v Australia:

There's no doubt Wales got just about every 50/50 call, the Tomkins try included.

The worst call, though, was the collapsed maul turnover in about the 55th minute. A clear Wallaby penalty, with a case for a YC and maybe even a PT. And yet he somehow missed our ball carrier being dragged down from behind by a player not bound to the maul. Aggregious.

I was impressed with our heart, and ability to score tries with 14 men. It was a loss on the scoreboard but nowhere else.

Do you mean aggressively egregious or is this another word I have to learn?

The Silver Fern

Wales v Australia