Wales v Australia

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@tim said in Wales v Australia:

A deliberate knock down is fine if it doesn't go forward?

By the laws, yes.

NTA

To add: that's the same for the ball carrier, too. If it goes straight down, play on.

Nepia

Just watched the highlights. I almost want to watch the whole game to see if the reffing is fucked all the way through.

Derpus

The knock down try is technically correct. The best kind of correct.

But would obviously have been pulled up by any other ref on any other day. So unlucky I suppose.

The various card decisions/non-decisions. Urgh. Is this what rugby is now? Just a ref wheel of fortune.

Kirwan

@tim said in Wales v Australia:

So head clashes where the tackler is upright are red cards from now on? Seems like something that gets let go a lot.

That was just weird. If you thought it was reckless, maybe yellow.

I guess starting at red for everything then working down is the problem.

gt12

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Edit: Saw the other angle, bloody lucky.

Machpants

@gt12 said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Of course, ball went backwards, play on

nostrildamus

@machpants said in Wales v Australia:

@gt12 said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Of course, ball went backwards, play on

did it go backwards? Didn't see it in the clip. Love the confused expression of the player, can I run ref, did I just get a yellow, can I run?

gibbon rib

Exciting game, Wales lucky, well played Aus.

Can't believe thay anyone is questioning the red card. Clearly dangerous and poor technique. Absolutely stonewall.

The Tompinks try was also undoubtedly the right decision, but incrediblely flukey for Wales, if it had gone a few inches the other way it would have been a penalty and quite possibly a yellow.

I've had a gutsful of the Aussie commentators (and I'm including Mehrts in that) ragging on the referees for every decision that goes against the Wallabies. Claiming that the Valentini card couldn't have been foul play because there was no intent, and the ref had a "howler" in correctly judging the known down went back. Don't be like South Africa guys.

To be fair the folks in the studio were pretty reasonable (Turanui, Plank and the Wallaroo whose name I didn't catch)

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@nostrildamus said in Wales v Australia:

@machpants said in Wales v Australia:

@gt12 said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Of course, ball went backwards, play on

did it go backwards? Didn't see it in the clip. Love the confused expression of the player, can I run ref, did I just get a yellow, can I run?

It did, but so close. Incredibly lucky. Ref was the only one who got it right in real time, pretty sure even Tompkins thought it had gone forward, but reacted quickly enough to the ref saying play on

nostrildamus

@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:

@nostrildamus said in Wales v Australia:

@machpants said in Wales v Australia:

@gt12 said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Of course, ball went backwards, play on

did it go backwards? Didn't see it in the clip. Love the confused expression of the player, can I run ref, did I just get a yellow, can I run?

It did, but so close. Incredibly lucky. Ref was the only one who got it right in real time, pretty sure even Tompkins thought it had gone forward, but reacted quickly enough to the ref saying play on

Thanks! Big call from the ref though, imagine if he got it wrong!

gibbon rib

@nostrildamus said in Wales v Australia:

@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:

@nostrildamus said in Wales v Australia:

@machpants said in Wales v Australia:

@gt12 said in Wales v Australia:

@nta said in Wales v Australia:

@kiap said in Wales v Australia:

Could've still won despite the officiating, IMO.

Well I just saw this... And I have questions...

https://twitter.com/seanny202/status/1462160780829200387?t=S6B-DGMPuLaR4A9am3VgWQ&s=19

Holy fuck. That stood?

Of course, ball went backwards, play on

did it go backwards? Didn't see it in the clip. Love the confused expression of the player, can I run ref, did I just get a yellow, can I run?

It did, but so close. Incredibly lucky. Ref was the only one who got it right in real time, pretty sure even Tompkins thought it had gone forward, but reacted quickly enough to the ref saying play on

Thanks! Big call from the ref though, imagine if he got it wrong!

Yeah, you'd have to assume the TMO would have picked it up in that case though (although they'd probably have needed 10 minutes and 20 camera angles to be sure)

barbarian

There's no doubt Wales got just about every 50/50 call, the Tomkins try included.

The worst call, though, was the collapsed maul turnover in about the 55th minute. A clear Wallaby penalty, with a case for a YC and maybe even a PT. And yet he somehow missed our ball carrier being dragged down from behind by a player not bound to the maul. Aggregious.

I was impressed with our heart, and ability to score tries with 14 men. It was a loss on the scoreboard but nowhere else.

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@barbarian said in Wales v Australia:

There's no doubt Wales got just about every 50/50 call, the Tomkins try included.

The worst call, though, was the collapsed maul turnover in about the 55th minute. A clear Wallaby penalty, with a case for a YC and maybe even a PT. And yet he somehow missed our ball carrier being dragged down from behind by a player not bound to the maul. Aggregious.

I was impressed with our heart, and ability to score tries with 14 men. It was a loss on the scoreboard but nowhere else.

Well neither the red card nor the Tompkins try were anything like a 50/50. It went back, and you can't give a knock on for a ball that goes back.

Was the maul the one in the corner near the Welsh try line? Agree that should have been a Wallabies pen

nostrildamus

@barbarian said in Wales v Australia:

There's no doubt Wales got just about every 50/50 call, the Tomkins try included.

The worst call, though, was the collapsed maul turnover in about the 55th minute. A clear Wallaby penalty, with a case for a YC and maybe even a PT. And yet he somehow missed our ball carrier being dragged down from behind by a player not bound to the maul. Aggregious.

I was impressed with our heart, and ability to score tries with 14 men. It was a loss on the scoreboard but nowhere else.

Do you mean aggressively egregious or is this another word I have to learn?

barbarian

@nostrildamus that's exactly what I mean. Obviously.

Derpus

@gibbon-rib It's not just the Aussie commentators complaining about the referees though. It's everyone. Complaints are coming from all quarters.

Rennie alluded to a WR apology being issued for a shit decision in the Scotland/Aus game. The reffing quality is just terrible.

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@derpus said in Wales v Australia:

@gibbon-rib It's not just the Aussie commentators complaining about the referees though. It's everyone. Complaints are coming from all quarters.

Rennie alluded to a WR apology being issued for a shit decision in the Scotland/Aus game. The reffing quality is just terrible.

Well I'm not denying that there are problems with refereeing. But when everyone is moaning about referees all the time, including when they unquestionably got the decision right, then it just creates the perception that the problem is far worse than it really is. The whole victim/ siege mentality thing that the South Africans have going on is grim.

WR need to sort out the inconsistency between hemispheres, and the interminable video replays (among other things). But it would be good if commentators and coaches could meet them half way and stop moaning about every decision that goes against them.

NTA

Watching back now.

Beale's yellow card is due to the actions of the home broadcaster and nobody else.

Ref called a scrum.

Broadcaster puts up a replay for the crowd to blow up at. Ref changes his decision on review.

Was it the right decision? Maybe. Beale is just close enough to be a tackler, but also looking at the ball.

Is it foul play? Not according to the officials in real time. So four match officials haven't seen it.

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@nta said in Wales v Australia:

Watching back now.

Beale's yellow card is due to the actions of the home broadcaster and nobody else.

Ref called a scrum.

Broadcaster puts up a replay for the crowd to blow up at. Ref changes his decision on review.

Was it the right decision? Maybe. Beale is just close enough to be a tackler, but also looking at the ball.

Is it foul play? Not according to the officials in real time. So four match officials haven't seen it.

That's another thing that needs to be fixed - it's crazy that the broadcaster can influence the outcome of the game

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