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EPL 2021 / 2022

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    The Spurs saga is bizarre. Replacing Poch with Mourinho was strange, firing Mourinho just before the League Cup final was strange, appointing Nuno after making it clear he was their 7th choice was strange and then firing him almost immediately when he performed as everyone expected was strange. Meanwhile Kane's value is dropping fast.

    Conte will probably get a tune out of that squad though at least in the short term.

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    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

      The Spurs saga is bizarre. Replacing Poch with Mourinho was strange, firing Mourinho just before the League Cup final was strange, appointing Nuno after making it clear he was their 7th choice was strange and then firing him almost immediately when he performed as everyone expected was strange. Meanwhile Kane's value is dropping fast.

      Conte will probably get a tune out of that squad though at least in the short term.

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      @kiwipie

      Now you mention the weird decision making, signing a manager who just walked away from his last team for not being willing to spend enough on players is probably also going to end badly for Spurs.

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      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

        The Spurs saga is bizarre. Replacing Poch with Mourinho was strange, firing Mourinho just before the League Cup final was strange, appointing Nuno after making it clear he was their 7th choice was strange and then firing him almost immediately when he performed as everyone expected was strange. Meanwhile Kane's value is dropping fast.

        Conte will probably get a tune out of that squad though at least in the short term.

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        @kiwipie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

        The Spurs saga is bizarre. Replacing Poch with Mourinho was strange, firing Mourinho just before the League Cup final was strange, appointing Nuno after making it clear he was their 7th choice was strange and then firing him almost immediately when he performed as everyone expected was strange. Meanwhile Kane's value is dropping fast.

        Conte will probably get a tune out of that squad though at least in the short term.

        Levy is the constant. He has built a great stadium but in terms of football decisions he is shite. He is pennywise pound foolish and has pissed away all the work Pochettino did. Failed to back Poch when he wanted to retool the squad then fired him because the team got stale and stopped playing for him. Signed Jose who got a bounce but eventually had the same players stop trying for him too. Nuno never had a shot and still there are about 6 or 7 players from the Poch era who, with the exception of Son should probably all be sold. Held onto players like Rose, Eriksen, Ali far too long and either ended up getting nothing when they left or let their value decline by keeping them. Lost revenue from UCL or EL because the team foundered and we couldn't get a high enough spot in the league to qualify. If Conte signs on he should do so on the proviso that Levy backs out from all football operations and let's Conte and the DoF build and manage the squad as they see fit. He might be able to get Kane back on board, but he needs to sell on at least 6 players and buy in some replacements. We have some promising young players who are showing up some of the tired older ones with their effort

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          @kiwipie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

          The Spurs saga is bizarre. Replacing Poch with Mourinho was strange, firing Mourinho just before the League Cup final was strange, appointing Nuno after making it clear he was their 7th choice was strange and then firing him almost immediately when he performed as everyone expected was strange. Meanwhile Kane's value is dropping fast.

          Conte will probably get a tune out of that squad though at least in the short term.

          Levy is the constant. He has built a great stadium but in terms of football decisions he is shite. He is pennywise pound foolish and has pissed away all the work Pochettino did. Failed to back Poch when he wanted to retool the squad then fired him because the team got stale and stopped playing for him. Signed Jose who got a bounce but eventually had the same players stop trying for him too. Nuno never had a shot and still there are about 6 or 7 players from the Poch era who, with the exception of Son should probably all be sold. Held onto players like Rose, Eriksen, Ali far too long and either ended up getting nothing when they left or let their value decline by keeping them. Lost revenue from UCL or EL because the team foundered and we couldn't get a high enough spot in the league to qualify. If Conte signs on he should do so on the proviso that Levy backs out from all football operations and let's Conte and the DoF build and manage the squad as they see fit. He might be able to get Kane back on board, but he needs to sell on at least 6 players and buy in some replacements. We have some promising young players who are showing up some of the tired older ones with their effort

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          @canefan Conte negotiations fell over in the summer due to the lack of any transfer budget. So that must have changed as Conte is a done deal. It just hasn't been announced yet.

          I think a lot depends on how much Conte/Levy want instant success. They are in a great position now to build something properly for the future if they do it right. The squad needs a refresh & perhaps introduce a few more academy players. Young players will want to play for them now with their colossal stadium & strong fan base.

          But if they throw everything at a trophy this season, then I think they'll be in the same position at the end of the season at which point they'll probably fire Conte & bring Pochettino back. Who they should never have sacked in the first place.

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            @canefan Conte negotiations fell over in the summer due to the lack of any transfer budget. So that must have changed as Conte is a done deal. It just hasn't been announced yet.

            I think a lot depends on how much Conte/Levy want instant success. They are in a great position now to build something properly for the future if they do it right. The squad needs a refresh & perhaps introduce a few more academy players. Young players will want to play for them now with their colossal stadium & strong fan base.

            But if they throw everything at a trophy this season, then I think they'll be in the same position at the end of the season at which point they'll probably fire Conte & bring Pochettino back. Who they should never have sacked in the first place.

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            @majorrage Levy should have given Poch a chance to rebuild the squad as reward for a number of very good years. He didn't, the players were getting stale and stopped listening as Poch predicted, and he lost his job. Several of those players are still there. Unless Conte thinks he can turn them around they should be shipped out soon. We got rid of several in the offseason, and new players like Romero, Royal and Gil look very good, along with young academy players like Skipp and Tanganga

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              How much does Nuno Espirito Santo walk away with?

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                How much does Nuno Espirito Santo walk away with?

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                @bovidae said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                How much does Nuno Espirito Santo walk away with?

                One media outlet says 14M GBP. He only did 4 months so I expect it would be a decent wedge

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                    Manure lose 4-1. Taxi for Ole?

                    Great to see Villa back to winning ways in their first game under Steven Gerrard.

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                      Ole sacked.

                      Liverpool fans in despair.

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                        Ole sacked.

                        Liverpool fans in despair.

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                        @majorrage Chelsea are going good aye? Like their team and like their coach. Playing good, balanced football. Will only get better too.

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                          OGS fired. Worst coach of a big team I've ever seen in any sport. Absolutely clueless.

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                            @majorrage Chelsea are going good aye? Like their team and like their coach. Playing good, balanced football. Will only get better too.

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                            @mariner4life Chelsea or Liverpool for the title. Both look well coached and are playing some very good stuff.

                            Man City should have bought Kane instead of Grealish in the summer.

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                              @majorrage Chelsea are going good aye? Like their team and like their coach. Playing good, balanced football. Will only get better too.

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                              @mariner4life Yeah, I think Tuchel is working out very well.

                              Now that I say that though, of course its' going to be a rough trot ahead. Liverpool still looking very strong.

                              Great to see the Arteta / Klopp scrap yesterday. Good to see some passionate coaches.

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                                OGS fired. Worst coach of a big team I've ever seen in any sport. Absolutely clueless.

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                                @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                OGS fired. Worst coach of a big team I've ever seen in any sport. Absolutely clueless.

                                Ian Foster is requesting you to hold his beer.

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                                  @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                  OGS fired. Worst coach of a big team I've ever seen in any sport. Absolutely clueless.

                                  Ian Foster is requesting you to hold his beer.

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                                  @majorrage I am no fan of clown Foster, but OGS much, much worse.

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                                    @majorrage I am no fan of clown Foster, but OGS much, much worse.

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                                    @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                    @majorrage I am no fan of clown Foster, but OGS much, much worse.

                                    I'm just glad he held on long enough for us to ship out Nuno and ship in Conte before Yanited asked him!

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                                      @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      @majorrage I am no fan of clown Foster, but OGS much, much worse.

                                      I'm just glad he held on long enough for us to ship out Nuno and ship in Conte before Yanited asked him!

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                                      @canefan said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      @majorrage I am no fan of clown Foster, but OGS much, much worse.

                                      I'm just glad he held on long enough for us to ship out Nuno and ship in Conte before Yanited asked him!

                                      Yeah, I think Utd shot themselves in the foot by beating Spurs a few weeks back, ended up taking the only decent candidate off the market

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                                        I've seen some silly shit around "who would actually want the job?"

                                        Seriously?

                                        Huge club. Roster stacked with talent. January window just around the corner. Heaps of money.

                                        Someone good will want it.

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                                          The manager isn't really Utd's biggest problem though, the people running the club have no idea what they're doing. They'll find another manager who might do better, but they're not going to match City or Chelsea until they sort out the mess behind the scenes.

                                          They need to bring in someone like Ralf Rangnick as director of football, maybe get him in as interim manager short term until they can find the right manager longer term. Zero chance of that happening though, CR7 wouldn't stand for it

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