TV Serieseseses
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@nepia said in TV Serieseseses:
@kruse I think the hate was just me. I can be loud when I want to be.
Yeah - I seemed to recall it might have been just one person coming off like a cowboy had kicked their dog. But too lazy to go back and check whether it was a widespread view, or just a vocal minority.
I also wondered if maybe my viewing of S2 had been skewed by having read that withering appraisal beforehand... but I don't think so.
It was just pretty shit. Possibly not helped by "binging", so that the flip-flop decisions around loyalty/etc come straight after one another. -
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@taniwharugby choice! Enjoy. Hah sorry I should have said about that one.
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@voodoo said in TV Serieseseses:
Just spotted this premieres tonight apparently:
Disclaimer: I read all the books as a younger man, from the early, exciting discovery of a new series by Jordan, to the doldrums where his books started to get tedious, to the good finishing work from Sanderson (who is a consultant on the show).
I'm always a bit wary of turning massive books (14 sizeable novels) into a TV series. An exercise in deciding what the keep, alter, and ignore. LOTR and The Hobbit did it extremely well. Others, not so much...
With that out of the way... Have watched the 3 eps available.
Was not impressed with the direction or pacing of it initially. Some of the acting is a bit woody, but then I remember the main protagonists are meant to be 20yo and therefore they are idiots
What it captures well from the books is just dropping you in the middle of the scenario and making you work out who is who in the zoo. Take that as you want
It doesn't follow the books too closely in terms of events, but does cover the characters as well as you can in one-hour stints. As they're starting to flesh things out a bit, I'm willing to give it more time and see where it goes. But it is a bit jumpy in terms of location and introduction TBH and again - you can't get the scale of what was in the text in a TV show.
And I can watch Rosumand Pike all fucking day...
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@nta ok....i need a new book, i enjoy a fantasy novel....worth starting wheel of time? 14 books seems daunting but i do like sanderson and have another of his waiting to be read
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@kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@nta ok....i need a new book, i enjoy a fantasy novel....worth starting wheel of time? 14 books seems daunting but i do like sanderson and have another of his waiting to be read
It is a good read for 20yo me but I can't judge what current me would think.
I think it is worth a read. The first 6 books were awesome TBH.
What I know is it starts with the map. I love a fantasy novel that starts with a map. If there is no map, I'm not keen.
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@nta said in TV Serieseseses:
@kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@nta ok....i need a new book, i enjoy a fantasy novel....worth starting wheel of time? 14 books seems daunting but i do like sanderson and have another of his waiting to be read
It is a good read for 20yo me but I can't judge what current me would think.
I think it is worth a read. The first 6 books were awesome TBH.
What I know is it starts with the map. I love a fantasy novel that starts with a map. If there is no map, I'm not keen.
I'd agree with all of that, the drift and the map.
I recall loving the first bunch of books, then getting tired of the same same ness of a few. I never actually went back and finished them so haven't tried the Sanderson ones.
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@voodoo the fucking tugging of braids and references to "wool-headed men" & general reiterated bullshit that added nothing was an issue for me in books 8-11.
And look, it's a fucking epic so as it expands it requires more setup to help it unfold.
Once you get through those books, it's clean air with Sanderson.
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@nta said in TV Serieseseses:
@voodoo the fucking tugging of braids and references to "wool-headed men" & general reiterated bullshit that added nothing was an issue for me in books 8-11.
And look, it's a fucking epic so as it expands it requires more setup to help it unfold.
Once you get through those books, it's clean air with Sanderson.
Could I skip them and pick it up again at 12?
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Cowboy Bebop - if it continues on like the opening ep it is great. Love the mixture of genres, the 'Mod Squad' style titles, the sets, the spacecraft are awesome.
Will definitely give it a watch.Just realised that some of this was filmed in NZ. Shootout scene in a “spaceport “ is at Ardmore as Harvard 78 and the NZ Beaver are parked up in the background.
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@nta said in TV Serieseseses:
@voodoo the fucking tugging of braids and references to "wool-headed men" & general reiterated bullshit that added nothing was an issue for me in books 8-11.
And look, it's a fucking epic so as it expands it requires more setup to help it unfold.
Once you get through those books, it's clean air with Sanderson.
Yeah - all this times heaps.
It was fucking hilarious everytime N-something... Nynaeve? Pulled her braids, and complained about wool-headed men. Or when the ladies would get upset and storm off, and the silly old men-folk would look at each other and ask "what did we do wrong?".
Well - I say hilarious. I mean... slightly condescending. The first time. The subsequent thousand or so times...And yeah - the later the books got... the more "let's set the scene, in case you didn't read the previous 6 fucking books... or because it's been a couple of years..." become more and more tiresome.
But I seem to recall enjoying them otherwise... particularly the first 5 books or so. After that - there's SO many goddamn threads... you can kinda see why Grrrrrrr Martin split a couple of his later books into "look - here's half the characters doing their thing for a book, and here's another book with the other half doing their thing".
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@kruse said in TV Serieseseses:
@nta said in TV Serieseseses:
@voodoo the fucking tugging of braids and references to "wool-headed men" & general reiterated bullshit that added nothing was an issue for me in books 8-11.
And look, it's a fucking epic so as it expands it requires more setup to help it unfold.
Once you get through those books, it's clean air with Sanderson.
Yeah - all this times heaps.
It was fucking hilarious everytime N-something... Nynaeve? Pulled her braids, and complained about wool-headed men. Or when the ladies would get upset and storm off, and the silly old men-folk would look at each other and ask "what did we do wrong?".
Well - I say hilarious. I mean... slightly condescending. The first time. The subsequent thousand or so times...And yeah - the later the books got... the more "let's set the scene, in case you didn't read the previous 6 fucking books... or because it's been a couple of years..." become more and more tiresome.
But I seem to recall enjoying them otherwise... particularly the first 5 books or so. After that - there's SO many goddamn threads... you can kinda see why Grrrrrrr Martin split a couple of his later books into "look - here's half the characters doing their thing for a book, and here's another book with the other half doing their thing".
The characters also suffer from 'we have an issue/have seen something/got a problem' and don't discuss it' to enable plot tension. Yes people aren't a 100 open and communicative, but every single character is a twat!
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@voodoo said in TV Serieseseses:
@nta said in TV Serieseseses:
@voodoo the fucking tugging of braids and references to "wool-headed men" & general reiterated bullshit that added nothing was an issue for me in books 8-11.
And look, it's a fucking epic so as it expands it requires more setup to help it unfold.
Once you get through those books, it's clean air with Sanderson.
Could I skip them and pick it up again at 12?
Nah there is some key plot and scene setting.
My advice: don't binge it all at once. I re-read it after the last book was released and binged. Parts of it hurt.
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