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EPL 2021 / 2022

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  • sparkyS sparky

    It was a massive error for Man Utd not to sign Jurgen Kloop when he was keep to come in 2013. He would have been the ideal replacement for Sire Alex Ferguson. Both Moyes and Van Gaal should have been given more time. Mourinho was a terrible hire for Man Utd. Clash of cultures and styles. OGS was an even worse hire. Not the CV for it. Out of his depth. He has looked an ill man in recent weeks.

    My guess is Zinedine Zidane will be their first choice. But apparently his wife is not keen on a move to England.

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    @sparky
    Couldn't his wife or him take a flight every now and then? Manchester is downgrade from Paris or Madrid or wherever she lives but it also isn't that far from those places.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      It was a massive error for Man Utd not to sign Jurgen Kloop when he was keep to come in 2013. He would have been the ideal replacement for Sire Alex Ferguson. Both Moyes and Van Gaal should have been given more time. Mourinho was a terrible hire for Man Utd. Clash of cultures and styles. OGS was an even worse hire. Not the CV for it. Out of his depth. He has looked an ill man in recent weeks.

      My guess is Zinedine Zidane will be their first choice. But apparently his wife is not keen on a move to England.

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      @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

      It was a massive error for Man Utd not to sign Jurgen Kloop when he was keep to come in 2013. He would have been the ideal replacement for Sire Alex Ferguson. Both Moyes and Van Gaal should have been given more time. Mourinho was a terrible hire for Man Utd. Clash of cultures and styles. OGS was an even worse hire. Not the CV for it. Out of his depth. He has looked an ill man in recent weeks.

      My guess is Zinedine Zidane will be their first choice. But apparently his wife is not keen on a move to England.

      Yes to all this (except maybe the ZZ bit, not sure if he's their target). And it highlights the fact that the club is a mess, the way they appoint random managers with completely opposing styles shows a lack of planning and understanding of how to run a club

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        Zidane has limited English and those that know him say he's comfortable in Madrid.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          Zidane has limited English and those that know him say he's comfortable in Madrid.

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          @bovidae His coaching resume looks great, but can he coach? I suspect he'd struggle at United.

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            @bovidae His coaching resume looks great, but can he coach? I suspect he'd struggle at United.

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            @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            @bovidae His coaching resume looks great, but can he coach? I suspect he'd struggle at United.

            Agree - his value to Real Madrid was keeping a bunch of prima donnas happy when they already knew their structure. United needs to have a structure applied.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              I've seen some silly shit around "who would actually want the job?"

              Seriously?

              Huge club. Roster stacked with talent. January window just around the corner. Heaps of money.

              Someone good will want it.

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              @mariner4life said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

              I've seen some silly shit around "who would actually want the job?"

              Seriously?

              Huge club. Roster stacked with talent. January window just around the corner. Heaps of money.

              Someone good will want it.

              Nuno? Another huge settlement payoff in February would be very nice for him!

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              • sparkyS sparky

                OGS fired. Worst coach of a big team I've ever seen in any sport. Absolutely clueless.

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                @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                OGS fired. Worst coach of a big team I've ever seen in any sport. Absolutely clueless.

                It was always crazy to give him the job permanently once he had cheered everyone up when he was the caretaker. He got away with it with no crowds and a freakish away record where almost every game they would have a woeful 1st half and sheer talent would rescue them in the 2nd. In fact that was his coaching talent - putting out sides which always looked like strangers in the 1st half - that Watford calamity was an epic way for him to leave.

                A bit sad to see him go as the soap opera has been fun and there is always the worry that someone might make United a good side and nobody wants that.

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                • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                  @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                  OGS fired. Worst coach of a big team I've ever seen in any sport. Absolutely clueless.

                  It was always crazy to give him the job permanently once he had cheered everyone up when he was the caretaker. He got away with it with no crowds and a freakish away record where almost every game they would have a woeful 1st half and sheer talent would rescue them in the 2nd. In fact that was his coaching talent - putting out sides which always looked like strangers in the 1st half - that Watford calamity was an epic way for him to leave.

                  A bit sad to see him go as the soap opera has been fun and there is always the worry that someone might make United a good side and nobody wants that.

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                  @kiwipie said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                  @sparky said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                  OGS fired. Worst coach of a big team I've ever seen in any sport. Absolutely clueless.

                  It was always crazy to give him the job permanently once he had cheered everyone up when he was the caretaker. He got away with it with no crowds and a freakish away record where almost every game they would have a woeful 1st half and sheer talent would rescue them in the 2nd. In fact that was his coaching talent - putting out sides which always looked like strangers in the 1st half - that Watford calamity was an epic way for him to leave.

                  A bit sad to see him go as the soap opera has been fun and there is always the worry that someone might make United a good side and nobody wants that.

                  We can all have our Derby "hate" but it's a tight togetherness in disliking Man U

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                        @mariner4life We're Norwich without Delia

                        One season of getting cocky - the world's your oyster, then the reality check.

                        Next year will be different.......

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                          I actually like Man U.

                          Been to theatre of dreams and it’s an amazing place.

                          Ferguson is a one off tho, proved that a msn could be more than a club.

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                            The Daily Fail think Pochettino misses England and is about to quit PSG. This would allow Zidane to take over at PSG.

                            https://twitter.com/MailSport/status/1462549792689696770?t=ntWaiLDmJ4cn7vedLhfP8Q&s=19

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                              How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

                              With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

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                                How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

                                With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

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                                @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

                                With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

                                With great power comes great responsibility.

                                A good manager is worth every cent.

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                                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                  @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                  How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

                                  With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

                                  With great power comes great responsibility.

                                  A good manager is worth every cent.

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                                  @majorrage also from the day you are hired you are just waiting to be sacked.

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                                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                    @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                    How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

                                    With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

                                    With great power comes great responsibility.

                                    A good manager is worth every cent.

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                                    @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                    @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                    How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

                                    With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

                                    With great power comes great responsibility.

                                    A good manager is worth every cent.

                                    That's my point. There is a monied merry go round of those that aren't good but egos of owners keep employing them thinking that the problem belongs to other owners not themselves.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

                                      With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

                                      With great power comes great responsibility.

                                      A good manager is worth every cent.

                                      That's my point. There is a monied merry go round of those that aren't good but egos of owners keep employing them thinking that the problem belongs to other owners not themselves.

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                                      @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

                                      With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

                                      With great power comes great responsibility.

                                      A good manager is worth every cent.

                                      That's my point. There is a monied merry go round of those that aren't good but egos of owners keep employing them thinking that the problem belongs to other owners not themselves.

                                      Easier to hire a new manager than sell all your players

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                                        I still can't believe that Spurs fired Pochetino, to replace him with Mourinho of all people. Dumbest managerial sacking since Newcastle got rid of Bobby Robson for only finishing 5th in the league.

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                          @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                          How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

                                          With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

                                          With great power comes great responsibility.

                                          A good manager is worth every cent.

                                          That's my point. There is a monied merry go round of those that aren't good but egos of owners keep employing them thinking that the problem belongs to other owners not themselves.

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                                          @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                          @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                          @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                          How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

                                          With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

                                          With great power comes great responsibility.

                                          A good manager is worth every cent.

                                          That's my point. There is a monied merry go round of those that aren't good but egos of owners keep employing them thinking that the problem belongs to other owners not themselves.

                                          No, it's about trying new things. Look at the success Moyes has had at West Ham after a succession of failures. Sometimes the square peg for the square hole takes a while to find.

                                          It takes a colossal ego to manage the colossal ego's of players. And whether you like the money part of it or not, there is huge money in football and that's the way it is. Why would a manager sign off for a pittance of what his best players are earning?

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