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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @tim said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/why-ireland-had-an-easier-defensive-assignment-than-the-all-blacks/

    Paywalled past the opening para.

    Key points - NZ defence was not numbering up correctly, and gave Ireland a ton of opportunity.Ireland can count and smothered the fuck out of us.

    "The comments of New Zealand’s head coach in the aftermath do make you wonder whether he really sees a problem. Most coaches operate on the understanding that more time spent in possession of the ball tends to exhaust the defence more than the offence and takes its toll in the second period."

    New Zealand supporters will need some convincing that the head coach of the All Blacks has the right remedies to the ailments evident in their third loss in the last five games against Ireland. If Ian Foster truly believes that Ireland tired more from their glut of possession than the All Blacks did from making more than 200 tackles in the game, there are some underlying issues indeed.

    ‘Fozzy’ and his support staff challenged the men in green to keep the ball and use it effectively, and Ireland not only picked up the gauntlet, they used it as a fist to belabour their opponents. They counted all of the cards on the table and knew they could play to width and exploit the bigger line spacings, without taking undue risk. There are some serious questions to answer as New Zealand move on to Paris for a climactic finish to their end of year tour against France.

    Delusional

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    @machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @tim said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/why-ireland-had-an-easier-defensive-assignment-than-the-all-blacks/

    Paywalled past the opening para.

    Key points - NZ defence was not numbering up correctly, and gave Ireland a ton of opportunity.Ireland can count and smothered the fuck out of us.

    "The comments of New Zealand’s head coach in the aftermath do make you wonder whether he really sees a problem. Most coaches operate on the understanding that more time spent in possession of the ball tends to exhaust the defence more than the offence and takes its toll in the second period."

    New Zealand supporters will need some convincing that the head coach of the All Blacks has the right remedies to the ailments evident in their third loss in the last five games against Ireland. If Ian Foster truly believes that Ireland tired more from their glut of possession than the All Blacks did from making more than 200 tackles in the game, there are some underlying issues indeed.

    ‘Fozzy’ and his support staff challenged the men in green to keep the ball and use it effectively, and Ireland not only picked up the gauntlet, they used it as a fist to belabour their opponents. They counted all of the cards on the table and knew they could play to width and exploit the bigger line spacings, without taking undue risk. There are some serious questions to answer as New Zealand move on to Paris for a climactic finish to their end of year tour against France.

    Delusional

    What article doesn’t touch on was that ABs had prepared for aerial Irish attack, but Sefton was astute enough to read that was well defended.

    Irish alignment left acres of space behind (at least in these photo’s) so crying out for some territorial kicking to get Irish to vary things. Whereas trying to fire ball wide off slow ball through backline reinforced with loosies was low probability play.

    Irish attacks were very lateral, and few line breaks, so not hugely effective per se. More a case that holding for multiple phases could be expected to lead to gaps, which happened a few times.

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      Painful

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        Painful

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        @machpants Irish had done homework on ref.
        Richie would have tried some skullduggery and been in Pearce’s early to point out illegal cleans.
        Paps needs some tuition about the dark side.

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          Ireland have some genuine world class players m. Starting with furlong. Watching the Argentina match here. Lavanini with a red card. Some things never change.

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            Ireland with a refreshed team with Carbery, Casey, Timoney, O'Toole, Baird, Baloucounne, and Sheehan starting or finishing the match well against Argentina.

            53-7 with Arg looking to get last score. Held up over the line and that's it.

            Great result. Commiserations Argentina .

            Good Autumn series.

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            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

              Ireland have some genuine world class players m. Starting with furlong. Watching the Argentina match here. Lavanini with a red card. Some things never change.

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              @billy-tell said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              Ireland have some genuine world class players m. Starting with furlong. Watching the Argentina match here. Lavanini with a red card. Some things never change.

              Is he the most carded player in history?

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                @billy-tell said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                Ireland have some genuine world class players m. Starting with furlong. Watching the Argentina match here. Lavanini with a red card. Some things never change.

                Is he the most carded player in history?

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                @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                @billy-tell said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                Ireland have some genuine world class players m. Starting with furlong. Watching the Argentina match here. Lavanini with a red card. Some things never change.

                Is he the most carded player in history?

                not according to April 2021 link below.
                I'm surprised, frankly

                https://eminetra.co.za/five-players-with-the-most-yellow-cards-in-test-rugby/248708/

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @billy-tell said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                  Ireland have some genuine world class players m. Starting with furlong. Watching the Argentina match here. Lavanini with a red card. Some things never change.

                  Is he the most carded player in history?

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                  @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                  @billy-tell said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                  Ireland have some genuine world class players m. Starting with furlong. Watching the Argentina match here. Lavanini with a red card. Some things never change.

                  Is he the most carded player in history?

                  https://twitter.com/SquidgeRugby/status/1462446571744804865

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    @billy-tell said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    Ireland have some genuine world class players m. Starting with furlong. Watching the Argentina match here. Lavanini with a red card. Some things never change.

                    Is he the most carded player in history?

                    https://twitter.com/SquidgeRugby/status/1462446571744804865

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                    @kiwimurph said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    @billy-tell said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    Ireland have some genuine world class players m. Starting with furlong. Watching the Argentina match here. Lavanini with a red card. Some things never change.

                    Is he the most carded player in history?

                    https://twitter.com/SquidgeRugby/status/1462446571744804865

                    he can now officially change his name to "Leave it! Ninny!"

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                      Ronan O'Gara on Irish podcast suggested that AB's defence was outdated -- prime example of why 'manwatching' is no longer used in North is the extraordinary number of times ABs were sucked in by the decoy runners.

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