NBA 2015/16 thread
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<p>Not at all. <strong>But the word has strong slavery connotations for black americans. They would probably rather hear a guy in a movie use the "N" word before referring to a black guy as a monkey.</strong> And I am sure the americans don't even realise Adams is polynesian</p>
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<p>Really? The N word only has one connotation. Monkey is still a normal part of language and can be used many ways. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary (isn't that American?),it could describe a primate, it could describe a mischievous person or apparently can even describe a subordinate person (as in organ grinders monkey) or an amount of money. As a verb you can monkey about (play the fool) or monkey with something (fiddle with it) or mock someone.</p>
<p>The M-W's first example of sentence use is "He's quite a cheeky little monkey, isn't he? "</p>
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<p>The urban slang dictionary lists it as being used as a racial slur, but then it is also a term for fluffybunny.</p>
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<p>Point is that the context Adams used it in was obvious and defined as legit. It's not like he was using the word in an abstract way when the obvious use in that situation was the racial one. It's the other way around.</p>
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<p>As for slavery origins, I think you will find that as a slur it is more to do with blacks falling into a 'sub-human' or less advanced category under some people's misunderstanding of Darwin's evolutionary theories.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="580481" data-time="1463528835"><p>Not at all. But the word has strong slavery connotations for black americans. They would probably rather hear a guy in a movie use the "N" word before referring to a black guy as a monkey. And I am sure the americans don't even realise Adams is polynesian</p></blockquote>
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I think they do know that he's not a Caucasian American....<br><br>
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<p>I remember being at a Canterbury v Waikato NPC game a few years ago. A women behind me made monkey noises every time Vunibaka got the ball.</p>
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<p>Morons.</p>
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<p>Yes, there is no doubt that it can (and is) used as a slur. It just isn't the primarily and obvious use of the word.</p>
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<p>The context was clear Adams shouldn't even have had to apologise, but good on him for doing so in the proper way.</p> -
- Great win. <br>
- Awesome game from Adams, when his team needed FTs he made them.<br>
- What a total non event this "monkey" shit is.<br><br><br>
I was told yesterday that black people should never be described as monkeys even if its to do with how agile they are.<br><br>
If you think black people look like monkeys then fuck you. But if you think the best way to describe someones physical abilities is to compare them to an animal renowned for those abilities, whats the big deal. <br><br>
If you find that offensive as a non black person then surely its says more about you than the person offering the simile. It suggest you think its offensive because you feel black people will be offended or you think the physical likeness is correct.<br><br>
Adams said something that offended many but only because of PC bullshit and a knee jerk first society.<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="580552" data-time="1463543753">
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<p>Morons.</p>
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<p>Yes, there is no doubt that it can (and is) used as a slur. It just isn't the primarily and obvious use of the word.</p>
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<p>The context was clear Adams shouldn't even have had to apologise, but good on him for doing so in the proper way.</p>
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<p>I was watching a couple of the ESPN talk shows and his apology did much to defuse any furore. But make no mistake, all of them seemed to take it all pretty seriously :unknown: Funny from a society that sees mass shootings, hate crimes vs gays and blacks as things that still happen</p> -
<p>PC fuckheads will always trawl the net to find something to be offended by on behalf of said person that the "offending" was directed at.</p>
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<p>I'm sure lots of White Americans are appalled that someone who looks like one of the Khals from Game of Thrones ( Polynesia you say ? I thought that place was imaginary like Narnia ) called them Monkeys.</p> -
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Saw the interview live and it was pretty obvious he was reaching for a word to finish the sentence - almost got the feeling he was going to swear something like "buggers" but "monkeys" was the first word that came to mind. I cringed a tiny bit at the time, but it seems like it will sensibly wash over.</p></blockquote>
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<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Damn, it's the 76ers. Poor Ben Simmons will go and play in Philly for that dumpster fire of a franchise </span></blockquote>
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<p>Do an Eli Manning and refuse to play for them. Simmons and the other potential number one pick will both be hoping to fall to number two because the LA Lakers are the LA Lakers even if they suck right now.</p> -
Wasn't there a big kerfuffle made around an AFL player being called a monkey or something similar last year?
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crazy Horse" data-cid="580599" data-time="1463560003"><p>
Wasn't there a big kerfuffle made around an AFL player being called a monkey or something similar last year?</p></blockquote>
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I believe Adam Goodes was called an Ape directly yo his face.<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="580490" data-time="1463531222"><p>Damn, it's the 76ers. Poor Ben Simmons will go and play in Philly for that dumpster fire of a franchise</p></blockquote>
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Brandon Ingram from Duke a real possibility to go number 1. Like Simmons he's is a multi-dimensional player and at 6'9 he has length. A better outside shooter than Ben, but Ben is stronger, better rebounder and passer. <br>
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I believe Adam Goodes was called an Ape directly yo his face.<br><br>
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Yeah that was it. Thanks.<br><br>
I hate all this being offended on behalf of somebody else. If somebody was offended on my behalf I would be offended because they obviously thought I had something that I should have been offended about. -
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<p>There is a great post on Facebook that I would like to screen shot and post but I'm too techretarded.</p>
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<p>Can one of you other ferners that is more able, post it?</p>
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<p>I saw that and resisted the urge to comment....TR will do it and protect the names of the innocent.</p>
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<p>nah I cant do screenshots easily at work....</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crazy Horse" data-cid="580607" data-time="1463564000"><p>
Yeah that was it. Thanks.<br><br>
I hate all this being offended on behalf of somebody else. If somebody was offended on my behalf I would be offended because they obviously thought I had something that I should have been offended about.</p></blockquote>
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Do you hate the 50000 people booing Adam Goodes every week because they were offended on behalf of the girl who was offended when she got turfed out because Goodes got offended at being called an ape? -
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<p>Do you hate the 50000 people booing Adam Goodes every week because they were offended on behalf of the girl who was offended when she got turfed out because Goodes got offended at being called an ape?</p>
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<p>I am offended that you asked me that question.</p>
