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World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules

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    You can now play for the country of your birth, you parents or grandparents birth if you've played for another country after 3 year stand down.

    This is pretty big for the PI teams. The name everybody is talking about up here is Charles Piutau. Him & Folau will be straight into the Tonga team from next year.

    In what Im sure will come as colossal news for Eddie Jones, that means I'm now eligible for England. Additionally, Gregor Townshend I'm sure will be aware that I'm also eligible for Scotland. Oddly enough, neither has called me yet. I have been out a lot today, so that may be the reason.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/59406025

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      Luatua is another that could get back on the international scene.

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        Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?

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          Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?

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          @bones said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

          Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?

          Doesn't appear so, the idea is you can represent your heritage. Ex ABs value to NH clubs, after the first 3 year contract, have gone down!

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            @bones said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

            Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?

            Doesn't appear so, the idea is you can represent your heritage. Ex ABs value to NH clubs, after the first 3 year contract, have gone down!

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            @machpants said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

            @bones said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

            Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?

            Doesn't appear so, the idea is you can represent your heritage. Ex ABs value to NH clubs, after the first 3 year contract, have gone down!

            Why’s that?

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @machpants said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

              @bones said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

              Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?

              Doesn't appear so, the idea is you can represent your heritage. Ex ABs value to NH clubs, after the first 3 year contract, have gone down!

              Why’s that?

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              @crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

              @machpants said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

              @bones said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

              Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?

              Doesn't appear so, the idea is you can represent your heritage. Ex ABs value to NH clubs, after the first 3 year contract, have gone down!

              Why’s that?

              UK clubs play matches on International Day

              There wasn’t a clash previously

              Now a former NZ player who now qualifies for Tonga for example is not available to play for his club

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                @crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                @machpants said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                @bones said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?

                Doesn't appear so, the idea is you can represent your heritage. Ex ABs value to NH clubs, after the first 3 year contract, have gone down!

                Why’s that?

                UK clubs play matches on International Day

                There wasn’t a clash previously

                Now a former NZ player who now qualifies for Tonga for example is not available to play for his club

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                @mikethesnow said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                @crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                @machpants said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                @bones said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                Yeah one glaring thing I noticed is there's no residency rule, so can't change to your new country of residence?

                Doesn't appear so, the idea is you can represent your heritage. Ex ABs value to NH clubs, after the first 3 year contract, have gone down!

                Why’s that?

                UK clubs play matches on International Day

                There wasn’t a clash previously

                Now a former NZ player who now qualifies for Tonga for example is not available to play for his club

                Cheers. Dumb clubs then, playing during the window.

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                  Does this mean we can get Ben Teo and Brad Shields back?
                  Don’t see much advantage in that.

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                    Does this mean we can get Ben Teo and Brad Shields back?
                    Don’t see much advantage in that.

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                    @crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                    Does this mean we can get Ben Teo and Brad Shields back?
                    Don’t see much advantage in that.

                    And sixty odd percent of the Tongan and Samoan squads

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                      There’s quite a few players around that would lift the strength of Samoa and Tonga which is a good thing IMO.
                      They are teams I enjoy watching and making them more competitive will add to the fun

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                        Damn, So we could have had Quade playing for the ABs if he had just waited a bit longer.

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                          TV headlines seem to think that you can only move to tier 2 countries but there’s nothing in that WR release that says that is the case.
                          We may well find that some AB discards end up in 6N squads through grandparents.

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                            TV headlines seem to think that you can only move to tier 2 countries but there’s nothing in that WR release that says that is the case.
                            We may well find that some AB discards end up in 6N squads through grandparents.

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                            @crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                            TV headlines seem to think that you can only move to tier 2 countries but there’s nothing in that WR release that says that is the case.
                            We may well find that some AB discards end up in 6N squads through grandparents.

                            The way things are going we may find some 6N discards in AB squads through grandparents.

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                              Did any union vote against this?

                              This graphic is on the WR website.

                              WR_-International-Eligibility-2021-WORKING-FILE_EN.jpg

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                                But will it stop the French clubs 'persuading' PI players to make themselves unavailable for internationals like they have done previously.

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                                  @crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                                  Does this mean we can get Ben Teo and Brad Shields back?
                                  Don’t see much advantage in that.

                                  And sixty odd percent of the Tongan and Samoan squads

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                                  @machpants said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                                  @crucial said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                                  Does this mean we can get Ben Teo and Brad Shields back?
                                  Don’t see much advantage in that.

                                  And sixty odd percent of the Tongan and Samoan squads

                                  This might have the perverse effect of having a lot of Bunce, Bachop, Vidiri types going the other way

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                                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                    You can now play for the country of your birth, you parents or grandparents birth if you've played for another country after 3 year stand down.

                                    This is pretty big for the PI teams. The name everybody is talking about up here is Charles Piutau. Him & Folau will be straight into the Tonga team from next year.

                                    In what Im sure will come as colossal news for Eddie Jones, that means I'm now eligible for England. Additionally, Gregor Townshend I'm sure will be aware that I'm also eligible for Scotland. Oddly enough, neither has called me yet. I have been out a lot today, so that may be the reason.

                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/59406025

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                                    @majorrage said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                                    You can now play for the country of your birth, you parents or grandparents birth if you've played for another country after 3 year stand down.

                                    Right now Eddie Jones is checking where George Bridge's grandparents were born - hopefully.

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                                      @majorrage said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                                      You can now play for the country of your birth, you parents or grandparents birth if you've played for another country after 3 year stand down.

                                      Right now Eddie Jones is checking where George Bridge's grandparents were born - hopefully.

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                                      @victor-meldrew said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                                      @majorrage said in World Rugby Change Eligibigilty Rules:

                                      You can now play for the country of your birth, you parents or grandparents birth if you've played for another country after 3 year stand down.

                                      Right now Eddie Jones is checking where George Bridge's grandparents were born - hopefully.

                                      Well he already meets the criteria of not playing any rugby for the last three years.

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                                        Not a massive fan of this, but also don't think it will be bad for NZ either.

                                        The players who leave are leaving for money. I would rather see Piutau represent the land of his parents than Aki in green.

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                                          Big win for the PI unions, and rightly so IMO. Anything that raises the standards of teams is good for the health of the sport.

                                          Interesting last line where a committee can approve seperate from the links, I assume that's for edge cases but could be abused.

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