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Force v Blues

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
    wrote on last edited by Duluth
    #1

    <p>Blues team named</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>It's supposed to be pouring rain on Saturday in Perth - at least during the day - i'm not too sure how the Blues have managed to strike wet weather in Joburg and Perth in back to back weeks - rather unusual. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>1 - Prattley</p>
    <p>2 - Parsons</p>
    <p>3 - Charlie</p>
    <p>4 - Tuipulotu</p>
    <p>5 - Bekhuis</p>
    <p>6 - Kaino</p>
    <p>7 - Latimer</p>
    <p>8 - Luatua</p>
    <p>9 - Guyton</p>
    <p>10 - West</p>
    <p>11 - Li</p>
    <p>12 - Francis</p>
    <p>13 - Moala</p>
    <p>14 - Duffie</p>
    <p>15 - Nanai</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Bench</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>16 - McDonald</p>
    <p>17 - Ofa T</p>
    <p>18 - Mafileo</p>
    <p>19 - Matenga</p>
    <p>20 - Pryor</p>
    <p>21 - Hall</p>
    <p>22 - McGahan</p>
    <p>23 - Sau</p>

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      African Monkey
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      <p>And judging by our last outing in the wet this could be bad news for us.</p>

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      • nzzpN Online
        nzzpN Online
        nzzp
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        #3

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="African Monkey" data-cid="580781" data-time="1463642546">
        <div>
        <p>And judging by our last outing in the wet this could be bad news for us.</p>
        </div>
        </blockquote>
        <p> </p>
        <p>We may go OK if we decide that tackling isn't in fact optional and play some smart footy.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Optimistic supporter here :|</p>

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        • TimT Offline
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          Tim
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          #4

          <p>NZ TAB has these odds:</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Force 2.50</p>
          <p>Blues 1.52</p>
          <p>Draw  21</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Blues' odds correspond to ~ 60% probability.</p>

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          • nzzpN Online
            nzzpN Online
            nzzp
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="580785" data-time="1463643089">
            <div>
            <p>NZ TAB has these odds:</p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Force 2.50</p>
            <p>Blues 1.52</p>
            <p>Draw  21</p>
            </div>
            </blockquote>
            <p> </p>
            <p>That calls for loss insurance if I ever saw it.  No downside, but fark betting against your team...</p>

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            • DiceD Offline
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              Dice
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              <p>Our bench just looks real ITM Cup-ish. It just shows how paper thin our depth is.</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>We need to build a team with at least 30 players who can be solid contributers when called upon. Trim the fat after this season and make no mistakes in signings like we did the last off-season.</p>

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              • antipodeanA Offline
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                antipodean
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                <p>This could be a very ugly fixture.</p>

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                  African Monkey
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Dice" data-cid="580794" data-time="1463650957">
                  <div>
                  <p>Our bench just looks real ITM Cup-ish. It just shows how paper thin our depth is.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>We need to build a team with at least 30 players who can be solid contributers when called upon. Trim the fat after this season and make no mistakes in signings like we did the last off-season.</p>
                  </div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <p>Lol tell me about it.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>At least Tevita Li keeps his spot for the 11th straight week. He's been outstanding all season.</p>

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                  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                    ACT Crusader
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Dice" data-cid="580794" data-time="1463650957"><p>Our bench just looks real ITM Cup-ish. It just shows how paper thin our depth is.<br><br>
                    We need to build a team with at least 30 players who can be solid contributers when called upon. Trim the fat after this season and make no mistakes in signings like we did the last off-season.</p></blockquote>
                    <br>
                    Bring back Benji I say..... [emoji3]

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                      Mister G
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                      #10

                      Tana is finished and was finished after his disastrous selection against the Crusaders. That appalling selection drained any confidence from the team and created uncertainty, and he doesn't have skills to do anything about it.

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                        KiwiMurph
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mister G" data-cid="580846" data-time="1463697497">
                        <div>
                        <p>Tana is finished and was finished after his disastrous selection against the Crusaders. That appalling selection drained any confidence from the team and created uncertainty, and he doesn't have skills to do anything about it.</p>
                        </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>All of a sudden i'm feeling more confident in Tana and the team.</p>

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                        • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                          taniwharugby
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                          #12

                          <p>he wont be finished, I would be surprised if he has any KPIs set on this season, for him it will be all about building for 2017, whether that will be any better remains to be seen...but Tana will be there next year, and possibly the year after.</p>

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                            Crucial
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                            #13

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mister G" data-cid="580846" data-time="1463697497"><p>Tana is finished and was finished after his disastrous selection against the Crusaders. That appalling selection drained any confidence from the team and created uncertainty, and he doesn't have skills to do anything about it.</p></blockquote>
                            <br>
                            Can you teach me you to type out of my arse? It's an impressive skill you have there.

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                              African Monkey
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mister G" data-cid="580846" data-time="1463697497">
                              <div>
                              <p>Tana is finished and was finished after his disastrous selection against the Crusaders. That appalling selection drained any confidence from the team and created uncertainty, and he doesn't have skills to do anything about it.</p>
                              </div>
                              </blockquote>
                              <p>Lol nice trolling.</p>

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                              • nzzpN Online
                                nzzpN Online
                                nzzp
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                                #15

                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="African Monkey" data-cid="580964" data-time="1463724563">
                                <div>
                                <p>Lol nice trolling.</p>
                                </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>The coach is finished after game 2.  Yeah, good work there Mister G.</p>

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                                  gt12
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="580855" data-time="1463697811">
                                  <div>
                                  <p>he wont be finished, I would be surprised if he has any KPIs set on this season, for him it will be all about building for 2017, whether that will be any better remains to be seen...but Tana will be there next year, and possibly the year after.</p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Although it was a rancid troll, I do find it interesting to consider what Blues fans would consider a successful season. At this point, what's the verdict? I get the feeling that everyone has decided that happiness comes from low expectations (see <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice?language=en'>Barry Schwartz</a>), but last week's humping needs to be followed up with some better performances. They have been some strange, ongoing, selections too.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>They've already got more points (25 versus 20) and 2 more wins than all last year, but they'll probably be last in NZ by some distance, so what is a reasonable result?</p>

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                                    Gunner
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    Don't think they'll be too concerned that they'll be last in the NZ conference. If they can get to mid table on the overall ladder you'd think they'd have to be happy with that.

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                                      SammyC
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                                      #18

                                      Ignoring the fact it's a huge troll, in retrospect it wasn't the right decision by Umaga to rest all those players against the crusaders.<br><br>
                                      Coming off a huge win against the defending champions he really needed to keep that momentum into the next game.

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                                        Crucial
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                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="581135" data-time="1463775880"><p>Ignoring the fact it's a huge troll, in retrospect it wasn't the right decision by Umaga to rest all those players against the crusaders.<br><br>
                                        Coming off a huge win against the defending champions he really needed to keep that momentum into the next game.</p></blockquote>
                                        <br>
                                        Retrospect us fine but you also need to see the big picture. This was a new coaching team trying to gel together a squad that had previous issues. My guess is that the mistake had been made pre season in declaring that most players that put in the effort would get an early crack to show what they had to offer. Looking at the draw they probably expected two very tough losses to start. The opening round win was unexpected but then T could hardly have reneged on a promise. Quickest way ever to lose respect. <br>
                                        Yes, a mistake, but one made with an eye to the future. <br>
                                        As for the season, they are already performing better than last year and giving home fans a reason to go to the game. Their draw has been tougher than others so far, and in the balance of things being in the toughest pool with current and recent champion teams doesn't help. <br>
                                        The Highlanders didn't become what they are instantly. It took years and JJ made some big mistakes along the way.

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                                          kiwiinmelb
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                                          #20

                                          <p>Yeah who knows what happens behind closed doors , Tana may have delivered a message earlier  saying below par performances wont be tolerated , reputations mean little blah blah , </p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>And now he has to reinforce that trying to set some culture and standards </p>

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