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EPL 2021 / 2022

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    gibbon rib
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    I still can't believe that Spurs fired Pochetino, to replace him with Mourinho of all people. Dumbest managerial sacking since Newcastle got rid of Bobby Robson for only finishing 5th in the league.

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      @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

      @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

      How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

      With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

      With great power comes great responsibility.

      A good manager is worth every cent.

      That's my point. There is a monied merry go round of those that aren't good but egos of owners keep employing them thinking that the problem belongs to other owners not themselves.

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      @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

      @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

      @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

      How do all these managers command such big salaries simply to hop on hop off teams and walk away with half the club's money?

      With the track record most have (club hopping through failure) you have to question the smarts behind signing them with such ridiculous sums.

      With great power comes great responsibility.

      A good manager is worth every cent.

      That's my point. There is a monied merry go round of those that aren't good but egos of owners keep employing them thinking that the problem belongs to other owners not themselves.

      No, it's about trying new things. Look at the success Moyes has had at West Ham after a succession of failures. Sometimes the square peg for the square hole takes a while to find.

      It takes a colossal ego to manage the colossal ego's of players. And whether you like the money part of it or not, there is huge money in football and that's the way it is. Why would a manager sign off for a pittance of what his best players are earning?

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      • G gibbon rib

        I still can't believe that Spurs fired Pochetino, to replace him with Mourinho of all people. Dumbest managerial sacking since Newcastle got rid of Bobby Robson for only finishing 5th in the league.

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        canefan
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        #187

        @gibbon-rib said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

        I still can't believe that Spurs fired Pochetino, to replace him with Mourinho of all people. Dumbest managerial sacking since Newcastle got rid of Bobby Robson for only finishing 5th in the league.

        He'd lost the locker room by then. The dumb part was not backing the best manager since I can remember when he said we needed to retool the squad. We are still trying to fix that error now

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          The manager isn't really Utd's biggest problem though, the people running the club have no idea what they're doing. They'll find another manager who might do better, but they're not going to match City or Chelsea until they sort out the mess behind the scenes.

          They need to bring in someone like Ralf Rangnick as director of football, maybe get him in as interim manager short term until they can find the right manager longer term. Zero chance of that happening though, CR7 wouldn't stand for it

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          @gibbon-rib said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

          They need to bring in someone like Ralf Rangnick as director of football, maybe get him in as interim manager short term until they can find the right manager longer term. Zero chance of that happening though, CR7 wouldn't stand for it

          Called it.

          (Well, you could say I called the exact opposite because I said it wouldn't happen, but that's a minor technicality)

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            @gibbon-rib said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            They need to bring in someone like Ralf Rangnick as director of football, maybe get him in as interim manager short term until they can find the right manager longer term. Zero chance of that happening though, CR7 wouldn't stand for it

            Called it.

            (Well, you could say I called the exact opposite because I said it wouldn't happen, but that's a minor technicality)

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            canefan
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            @gibbon-rib said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            @gibbon-rib said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

            They need to bring in someone like Ralf Rangnick as director of football, maybe get him in as interim manager short term until they can find the right manager longer term. Zero chance of that happening though, CR7 wouldn't stand for it

            Called it.

            (Well, you could say I called the exact opposite because I said it wouldn't happen, but that's a minor technicality)

            Great reverse jinx. Well played

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              #190

              Burnley-Spurs called off because of Snowflakes. Wokeness is getting out of control.

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59363471

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                Chelsea Man U game was ridiculous.

                For a start, Carrick benched Ronaldo for his first game in charge. That seems kind of strange.

                United really are awful though. Chelsea were playing around them at will & if Lukaku had started, we may well have been 2 or 3 nil up at the half time. Plenty of ball, plenty of balls in, just lacking the killer edge. Then we make one mistake and Sancho runs away for the goal to put us behind. United then concede a completely pointless penalty and we start to push.

                Ended one nil which is an awesome return for United - away to Chelsea. But crap for us.

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                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                  Chelsea Man U game was ridiculous.

                  For a start, Carrick benched Ronaldo for his first game in charge. That seems kind of strange.

                  United really are awful though. Chelsea were playing around them at will & if Lukaku had started, we may well have been 2 or 3 nil up at the half time. Plenty of ball, plenty of balls in, just lacking the killer edge. Then we make one mistake and Sancho runs away for the goal to put us behind. United then concede a completely pointless penalty and we start to push.

                  Ended one nil which is an awesome return for United - away to Chelsea. But crap for us.

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                  @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                  For a start, Carrick benched Ronaldo for his first game in charge. That seems kind of strange.

                  If Ole had told Man Utd not to waste their money on Ronaldo he might still have a job.

                  Utd are at their best playing a pressing counter-attacking game. Ronaldo might get you 20 goals but he can't play that system and thus will lose you more games than he wins.

                  Of course the money he brings in off the pitch will keep the Glazers happy.

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                    Hooroo
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                    #193

                    I see Auckland City have drawn Chelsea in the super cup thingy in Feb. That should be close....

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                      I see Auckland City have drawn Chelsea in the super cup thingy in Feb. That should be close....

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                      @hooroo said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                      I see Auckland City have drawn Chelsea in the super cup thingy in Feb. That should be close....

                      Not quite - they have been drawn to face Al Jazira, the winner of which will play Al Hilal for the right to play Chelsea. SO unlikely they will get that far unfortunately.

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                        @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                        For a start, Carrick benched Ronaldo for his first game in charge. That seems kind of strange.

                        If Ole had told Man Utd not to waste their money on Ronaldo he might still have a job.

                        Utd are at their best playing a pressing counter-attacking game. Ronaldo might get you 20 goals but he can't play that system and thus will lose you more games than he wins.

                        Of course the money he brings in off the pitch will keep the Glazers happy.

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                        KiwiPie
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                        @dogmeat said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                        @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                        For a start, Carrick benched Ronaldo for his first game in charge. That seems kind of strange.

                        If Ole had told Man Utd not to waste their money on Ronaldo he might still have a job.

                        Utd are at their best playing a pressing counter-attacking game. Ronaldo might get you 20 goals but he can't play that system and thus will lose you more games than he wins.

                        Of course the money he brings in off the pitch will keep the Glazers happy.

                        He wouldn't be happy to do it, but Ronaldo would really suit being a bench player to bring on with 25 to go and a goal or 2 needed. In fact he is perfect for that role, he's great in the air or on the ground. I wonder if City had that in mind when they were supposedly keen on him.

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                        • MajorPomM MajorPom

                          Chelsea Man U game was ridiculous.

                          For a start, Carrick benched Ronaldo for his first game in charge. That seems kind of strange.

                          United really are awful though. Chelsea were playing around them at will & if Lukaku had started, we may well have been 2 or 3 nil up at the half time. Plenty of ball, plenty of balls in, just lacking the killer edge. Then we make one mistake and Sancho runs away for the goal to put us behind. United then concede a completely pointless penalty and we start to push.

                          Ended one nil which is an awesome return for United - away to Chelsea. But crap for us.

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                          KiwiPie
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                          @majorrage said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                          Ended one nil which is an awesome return for United - away to Chelsea. But crap for us.

                          So unhappy you assigned it as a defeat for Chelsea - nice work.

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                            Crucial
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                            Saw this good article on BBC.

                            Just for you @Kiwiwomble

                            https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59183506

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                              Saw this good article on BBC.

                              Just for you @Kiwiwomble

                              https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59183506

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                              @crucial cheers

                              I heard a theory the other day that we may have payed more opposition clubs and at more opposition grounds than any other club. Just because almost all other clubs have bounced around 2-3 leagues where as we have played in 9 different leagues and one of very few that have gone from non league to the top tier

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                                @crucial cheers

                                I heard a theory the other day that we may have payed more opposition clubs and at more opposition grounds than any other club. Just because almost all other clubs have bounced around 2-3 leagues where as we have played in 9 different leagues and one of very few that have gone from non league to the top tier

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                                @kiwiwomble said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                @crucial cheers

                                I heard a theory the other day that we may have payed more opposition clubs and at more opposition grounds than any other club. Just because almost all other clubs have bounced around 2-3 leagues where as we have played in 9 different leagues and one of very few that have gone from non league to the top tier

                                ...and if you add MK Dons into the mix....

                                Always a good wind up mentioning MK to a true Wimbledon fan 😉

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                                  @kiwiwomble said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                  @crucial cheers

                                  I heard a theory the other day that we may have payed more opposition clubs and at more opposition grounds than any other club. Just because almost all other clubs have bounced around 2-3 leagues where as we have played in 9 different leagues and one of very few that have gone from non league to the top tier

                                  ...and if you add MK Dons into the mix....

                                  Always a good wind up mentioning MK to a true Wimbledon fan 😉

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                                  @crucial theyve only gone down since forming so no valuable contribution there 😉

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                                    Saw this about Gary Hooper of the Wellington Phoenix. He has scored goals in

                                    Premier League
                                    Championship
                                    League One
                                    League Two
                                    FA Cup
                                    League Cup
                                    Football League Trophy
                                    FA Trophy
                                    UEFA Champions League
                                    UEFA Europa League
                                    Scottish Cup
                                    Scottish League Cup
                                    Scottish Premier League
                                    (the only player to achieve the above)
                                    Conference National
                                    Conference South
                                    A League
                                    Indian Super League

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      Saw this good article on BBC.

                                      Just for you @Kiwiwomble

                                      https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59183506

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                                      @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                      Saw this good article on BBC.

                                      Just for you @Kiwiwomble

                                      https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59183506

                                      Thats a pretty good write up actually. I think more could be made of the fact we've achieved it whilst still being +80% fans owned (one fan one vote) and the troubles around raising the money to build Plough Lane, crowd funding and selling off bonds in the stadium etc

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                                        @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                        Saw this good article on BBC.

                                        Just for you @Kiwiwomble

                                        https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59183506

                                        Thats a pretty good write up actually. I think more could be made of the fact we've achieved it whilst still being +80% fans owned (one fan one vote) and the troubles around raising the money to build Plough Lane, crowd funding and selling off bonds in the stadium etc

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                                        Crucial
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                                        @kiwiwomble said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                        @crucial said in EPL 2021 / 2022:

                                        Saw this good article on BBC.

                                        Just for you @Kiwiwomble

                                        https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59183506

                                        Thats a pretty good write up actually. I think more could be made of the fact we've achieved it whilst still being +80% fans owned (one fan one vote) and the troubles around raising the money to build Plough Lane, crowd funding and selling off bonds in the stadium etc

                                        Only oligarchs get press coverage.

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                                          #204

                                          craig.jpg

                                          thats my brother in the front row with the NZ flag jumping in front of my niece celebrating a goal a couple of weeks ago, got a few pics with nik tzanev before the game

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