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    @reprobate said in Movie review thread...:

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    @nevorian said in Movie review thread...:

    Ok so 3.5 Q’s out of 5 M’s for No time to Die. Good story line, acting not quite there in places. But plenty of Bond humour and obviously action a plenty.

    Not going to say too much about the movie so as to avoid spoilers but worth a look if you are a Bond fan like me from way back.

    OK one spoiler Ana de Armas is a babe and there are even rumours she may even get her own Bond spin-off which would be cool.

    And I think I may have a theory on the next Bond actor.

    Am 1/3 in (family stuff got in the way) and not that impressed. came across as tired and formulaic. Still fun to watch but lacks the edge of Casino Royale or Quantum of Solace. Trying too hard to be clever and, in parts, woke.

    Next Bond? I'd go for Idris Elba. Has the right mix of menace, cool, screen presence and is just so British.

    Idris Elba would be a great Bond. I'd probably go and watch one at the cinema if he was the next Bond.

    Bond is white. Can’t have a black dude playing him. Plus he’s well known and too old now too.

    Says who? Is Bond Scottish or English?

    He’s white.

    I don't know if I care that much, but I reckon Bond is a codename rather than a specific person.

    If he can morph from being Scottish to English, and dark haired to blond, I am sure he can be whatever race the director wants.

    I’m a traditionalist. He was written as a white guy, that’s who the character is.

    Not particularly PC or woke perhaps but that’s what I feel. Some formulas shouldn’t be messed with I don’t reckon. If they want to do spin offs with other leads they can fill their boots and every black/disabled/lesbian/midget can have a crack at defeating Spectre and saving the world but I hope they leave James Bond as he is.

    It's not PC because it's racist mate. Character is not colour. If someone non-white can act the character well, then what's the problem? I'd far prefer a black Bond than one that doesn't drink and womanise.

    It's not racist.

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    @reprobate said in Movie review thread...:

    @mn5 said in Movie review thread...:

    @damo said in Movie review thread...:

    @mn5 said in Movie review thread...:

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    @nevorian said in Movie review thread...:

    Ok so 3.5 Q’s out of 5 M’s for No time to Die. Good story line, acting not quite there in places. But plenty of Bond humour and obviously action a plenty.

    Not going to say too much about the movie so as to avoid spoilers but worth a look if you are a Bond fan like me from way back.

    OK one spoiler Ana de Armas is a babe and there are even rumours she may even get her own Bond spin-off which would be cool.

    And I think I may have a theory on the next Bond actor.

    Am 1/3 in (family stuff got in the way) and not that impressed. came across as tired and formulaic. Still fun to watch but lacks the edge of Casino Royale or Quantum of Solace. Trying too hard to be clever and, in parts, woke.

    Next Bond? I'd go for Idris Elba. Has the right mix of menace, cool, screen presence and is just so British.

    Idris Elba would be a great Bond. I'd probably go and watch one at the cinema if he was the next Bond.

    Bond is white. Can’t have a black dude playing him. Plus he’s well known and too old now too.

    Says who? Is Bond Scottish or English?

    He’s white.

    I don't know if I care that much, but I reckon Bond is a codename rather than a specific person.

    If he can morph from being Scottish to English, and dark haired to blond, I am sure he can be whatever race the director wants.

    I’m a traditionalist. He was written as a white guy, that’s who the character is.

    Not particularly PC or woke perhaps but that’s what I feel. Some formulas shouldn’t be messed with I don’t reckon. If they want to do spin offs with other leads they can fill their boots and every black/disabled/lesbian/midget can have a crack at defeating Spectre and saving the world but I hope they leave James Bond as he is.

    It's not PC because it's racist mate. Character is not colour. If someone non-white can act the character well, then what's the problem? I'd far prefer a black Bond than one that doesn't drink and womanise.

    I half agree. If writing a TV series or movie a character doesn't need racially defining characteristics, then anyone can play the part and should be provided the opportunity.

    But for existing characters or historical accuracy I can not see why people are so keen to have the characters and events reinvented. Just make up a new story. One where you aren't constrained by its past. Just like the idiotic complaints there weren't enough actors of colour and women in Dunkirk. Why not have fire breathing unicorns and the Allies attack from the beach and secure Arnhem while they're at it?

    More broadly I don't get why we listen to people that don't like something and want it changed, neatly summed up by this cartoon kindly provided by @No-Quarter in the political memes thread.

    alt text

    It's like people who want to become members of clubs that don't want them.

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    @antipodean

    Totally agree.

    Heard an interview with a woke, gay actor who insisted that only gay actors should play gay characters. Fair enough.

    But if you agree with that view, you must also think gay actors should be prohibited from playing straight characters - and be in favour of discrimination against actors on sexual orientation.

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    @victor-meldrew said in Movie review thread...:

    @antipodean

    Totally agree.

    Heard an interview with a woke, gay actor who insisted that only gay actors should play gay characters. Fair enough.

    But if you agree with that view, you must also think gay actors should be prohibited from playing straight characters - and be in favour of discrimination against actors on sexual orientation.

    This. It’s acting for fucks sake. You know, where someone pretends to be someone they’re not.

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    @catogrande said in Movie review thread...:

    @victor-meldrew said in Movie review thread...:

    @antipodean

    Totally agree.

    Heard an interview with a woke, gay actor who insisted that only gay actors should play gay characters. Fair enough.

    But if you agree with that view, you must also think gay actors should be prohibited from playing straight characters - and be in favour of discrimination against actors on sexual orientation.

    This. It’s acting for fucks sake. You know, where someone pretends to be someone they’re not.

    If you take a close look at Mickey Mouse, you'll see he's actually played by a black mouse wearing white-face....

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    @victor-meldrew

    Or is he a white mouse wearing…

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @catogrande

    Nah - the white gloves he normally wears are the giveaway

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    @victor-meldrew said in Movie review thread...:

    @antipodean

    Totally agree.

    Heard an interview with a woke, gay actor who insisted that only gay actors should play gay characters. Fair enough.

    But if you agree with that view, you must also think gay actors should be prohibited from playing straight characters - and be in favour of discrimination against actors on sexual orientation.

    Aren't all actors gay?

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Movie review thread...:

    @victor-meldrew said in Movie review thread...:

    @antipodean

    Totally agree.

    Heard an interview with a woke, gay actor who insisted that only gay actors should play gay characters. Fair enough.

    But if you agree with that view, you must also think gay actors should be prohibited from playing straight characters - and be in favour of discrimination against actors on sexual orientation.

    Aren't all actors gay?

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  • MN5M Online
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    @reprobate said in Movie review thread...:

    @mn5 said in Movie review thread...:

    @damo said in Movie review thread...:

    @mn5 said in Movie review thread...:

    @damo said in Movie review thread...:

    @mn5 said in Movie review thread...:

    @damo said in Movie review thread...:

    @victor-meldrew said in Movie review thread...:

    @nevorian said in Movie review thread...:

    Ok so 3.5 Q’s out of 5 M’s for No time to Die. Good story line, acting not quite there in places. But plenty of Bond humour and obviously action a plenty.

    Not going to say too much about the movie so as to avoid spoilers but worth a look if you are a Bond fan like me from way back.

    OK one spoiler Ana de Armas is a babe and there are even rumours she may even get her own Bond spin-off which would be cool.

    And I think I may have a theory on the next Bond actor.

    Am 1/3 in (family stuff got in the way) and not that impressed. came across as tired and formulaic. Still fun to watch but lacks the edge of Casino Royale or Quantum of Solace. Trying too hard to be clever and, in parts, woke.

    Next Bond? I'd go for Idris Elba. Has the right mix of menace, cool, screen presence and is just so British.

    Idris Elba would be a great Bond. I'd probably go and watch one at the cinema if he was the next Bond.

    Bond is white. Can’t have a black dude playing him. Plus he’s well known and too old now too.

    Says who? Is Bond Scottish or English?

    He’s white.

    I don't know if I care that much, but I reckon Bond is a codename rather than a specific person.

    If he can morph from being Scottish to English, and dark haired to blond, I am sure he can be whatever race the director wants.

    I’m a traditionalist. He was written as a white guy, that’s who the character is.

    Not particularly PC or woke perhaps but that’s what I feel. Some formulas shouldn’t be messed with I don’t reckon. If they want to do spin offs with other leads they can fill their boots and every black/disabled/lesbian/midget can have a crack at defeating Spectre and saving the world but I hope they leave James Bond as he is.

    It's not PC because it's racist mate. Character is not colour. If someone non-white can act the character well, then what's the problem? I'd far prefer a black Bond than one that doesn't drink and womanise.

    No it’s not. Take your woke bullshit elsewhere. By the same token I don’t want Shaft to be played by a white guy.

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    @mn5 said in Movie review thread...:

    @damo said in Movie review thread...:

    @victor-meldrew said in Movie review thread...:

    @nevorian said in Movie review thread...:

    Ok so 3.5 Q’s out of 5 M’s for No time to Die. Good story line, acting not quite there in places. But plenty of Bond humour and obviously action a plenty.

    Not going to say too much about the movie so as to avoid spoilers but worth a look if you are a Bond fan like me from way back.

    OK one spoiler Ana de Armas is a babe and there are even rumours she may even get her own Bond spin-off which would be cool.

    And I think I may have a theory on the next Bond actor.

    Am 1/3 in (family stuff got in the way) and not that impressed. came across as tired and formulaic. Still fun to watch but lacks the edge of Casino Royale or Quantum of Solace. Trying too hard to be clever and, in parts, woke.

    Next Bond? I'd go for Idris Elba. Has the right mix of menace, cool, screen presence and is just so British.

    Idris Elba would be a great Bond. I'd probably go and watch one at the cinema if he was the next Bond.

    Bond is white. Can’t have a black dude playing him. Plus he’s well known and too old now too.

    Bond has been played by a guy from Goulburn. Nothing is sacred any more.

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    But 007 is not Bond, just a position. I think that's what happens in the latest, right? Not seen yet. So they could just 007 anyone, like Sean Bean dead duck 006

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    @machpants said in Movie review thread...:

    But 007 is not Bond, just a position. I think that's what happens in the latest, right? Not seen yet. So they could just 007 anyone, like Sean Bean dead duck 006

    Yup. So I guess they could appoint anyone. And even introduce more of the other 00s. I mean he surely can't be the only one?

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    I dont think it matters hugely who plays Bond, aside from James Bond being a straight male, given woman always play a part of his stories, so black or white, doesnt bother me, but making him gay is just pandering.

    If they want a gay or trans Spy, make it a stand alone or maybe a spin off movie about them, dont try use James Bond to drive the PC crap.

    Historical characters are a different thing, you shouldnt bow to wokeness there.

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    @victor-meldrew said in Movie review thread...:

    @mariner4life said in Movie review thread...:

    @victor-meldrew said in Movie review thread...:

    @antipodean

    Totally agree.

    Heard an interview with a woke, gay actor who insisted that only gay actors should play gay characters. Fair enough.

    But if you agree with that view, you must also think gay actors should be prohibited from playing straight characters - and be in favour of discrimination against actors on sexual orientation.

    Aren't all actors gay?

    Clint always gets an upvote no matter what the situation

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    Venom: Let There Be Carnage

    Great mindless fun. Perfect hungover Sunday movie. Laugh out loud funny at times. No thought required, very basic fun action movie

    4 dysfunction relationships out of 5 happy chickens

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    Watched Jungle Cruise with Mrs CF and the Jrs (11 and 8). It was great family fun, reminded me of Pirates of the Carribean a little, all in all a satisfying watch for the whole family at a time when it is difficult to find something everyone can enjoy. 4 tears of the Moon out of 5 400 year old conquistadors

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  • MN5M Online
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    Dune was good

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    @mariner4life said in Movie review thread...:

    Venom: Let There Be Carnage

    Great mindless fun. Perfect hungover Sunday movie. Laugh out loud funny at times. No thought required, very basic fun action movie

    4 dysfunction relationships out of 5 happy chickens

    Do you need to see the first one? Or pretty much standalone?

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    @machpants said in Movie review thread...:

    @mariner4life said in Movie review thread...:

    Venom: Let There Be Carnage

    Great mindless fun. Perfect hungover Sunday movie. Laugh out loud funny at times. No thought required, very basic fun action movie

    4 dysfunction relationships out of 5 happy chickens

    Do you need to see the first one? Or pretty much standalone?

    It's not exactly plot driven so if you understand the basic premise all good

    The first is fucking great too though, treat yourself

    Some marvel takes itself very seriously, these do not. They know exactly what they are.

    And they are short!! You don't need to make your movie 2 hours if you can tell the "story" in 90 minutes

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