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    #1063

    Ashwin on fire right now. I don't know how Nicholls has survived

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      #1064

      Mitchell playing with a positive frame of mind. Until he went aerial once too often, and holed out in in deep. He didn't really need to go there after just having hit a 6

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      • DonsteppaD Offline
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        #1065

        Six and then out this late in the day from Daryl Mitchell. A good knock, but still a lot to learn about the longer form of the game it seems...

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          #1066

          Nicholls is having some luck today. LBW not reviewed and now bowled but the bail wasn't dislodged.

          That was unnecessary from Mitchell. He had just hit a nice controlled 6 and he's out having a bit of a whack at one he should have just defended. Shame.

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            #1067

            And now Blundell idiotically runs himself out without troubling the scorers...

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            • ChrisC Online
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              wrote on last edited by Chris
              #1068

              You muppett Blundell there was never a run to mid off.

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              • DamoD Offline
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                #1069

                Our path to victory is beginning to look obstructed.

                Night all.

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                • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                  #1070

                  Just play out the day Mitch.

                  Run outs in test match cricket are just stupid.

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                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                    And now Blundell idiotically runs himself out without troubling the scorers...

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                    #1071

                    @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

                    And now Blundell idiotically runs himself out without troubling the scorers...

                    I miss BJW

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                    • DonsteppaD Offline
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                      Donsteppa
                      wrote on last edited by Donsteppa
                      #1072

                      I think we're into some interesting selection times for the Test side over the next twelve months.

                      Last night I started to think about a side for Bangladesh without Williamson and Taylor in response to @Chris-B's post, and got myself into a tangle much quicker than I expected. Mainly because Ajaz. I started thinking through roughly...

                      1. Latham
                      2. Young
                      3. Conway (or vice versa with Young)
                      4. "Hmm... possibly Philips, or possibly move Nicholls up one" (I'm not a noted Nicholls fan, but I suppose he does make his own luck)
                      5. Nicholls
                      6. Blundell (although his form with the bat hasn't been great in the last few months, I can't think of others in the near future?)
                      7. Ravindra, and then I'll pick the usual four pace... hang on... what about Sir Ajaz Patel?

                      I then wondered about:

                      1. Latham (c)
                      2. Young/Ravindra
                      3. Ravindra/Young
                      4. Conway
                      5. Nicholls
                      6. Blundell
                      7. Jamieson
                      8. Southee
                      9. Wagner
                      10. Patel
                      11. Boult

                      Which offers five bowlers plus part time spin, but Jamieson and Southee feel about a spot too high in the batting order.

                      Might make for some fun times for the selectors...! Especially as and when Kane's elbow heals. I wonder if surgery looms, or if it's even possible for the nature of his injury, but it doesn't seem to be going away any time soon...

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                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                        I think we're into some interesting selection times for the Test side over the next twelve months.

                        Last night I started to think about a side for Bangladesh without Williamson and Taylor in response to @Chris-B's post, and got myself into a tangle much quicker than I expected. Mainly because Ajaz. I started thinking through roughly...

                        1. Latham
                        2. Young
                        3. Conway (or vice versa with Young)
                        4. "Hmm... possibly Philips, or possibly move Nicholls up one" (I'm not a noted Nicholls fan, but I suppose he does make his own luck)
                        5. Nicholls
                        6. Blundell (although his form with the bat hasn't been great in the last few months, I can't think of others in the near future?)
                        7. Ravindra, and then I'll pick the usual four pace... hang on... what about Sir Ajaz Patel?

                        I then wondered about:

                        1. Latham (c)
                        2. Young/Ravindra
                        3. Ravindra/Young
                        4. Conway
                        5. Nicholls
                        6. Blundell
                        7. Jamieson
                        8. Southee
                        9. Wagner
                        10. Patel
                        11. Boult

                        Which offers five bowlers plus part time spin, but Jamieson and Southee feel about a spot too high in the batting order.

                        Might make for some fun times for the selectors...! Especially as and when Kane's elbow heals. I wonder if surgery looms, or if it's even possible for the nature of his injury, but it doesn't seem to be going away any time soon...

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                        Crucial
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1073

                        @donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?

                        I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.

                        As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.

                        Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?

                          I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.

                          As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.

                          Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.

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                          Donsteppa
                          wrote on last edited by Donsteppa
                          #1074

                          @crucial said in NZ tour of India:

                          As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.

                          I was thinking more for Bangladesh at Bay Oval, though for future sub-continent matches it will be interesting to see who a second frontline spinner could be. I've always hoped Ish Sodhi could become more consistent in the longer form of the game, but that still seems to be a way off.

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                          • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                            I think we're into some interesting selection times for the Test side over the next twelve months.

                            Last night I started to think about a side for Bangladesh without Williamson and Taylor in response to @Chris-B's post, and got myself into a tangle much quicker than I expected. Mainly because Ajaz. I started thinking through roughly...

                            1. Latham
                            2. Young
                            3. Conway (or vice versa with Young)
                            4. "Hmm... possibly Philips, or possibly move Nicholls up one" (I'm not a noted Nicholls fan, but I suppose he does make his own luck)
                            5. Nicholls
                            6. Blundell (although his form with the bat hasn't been great in the last few months, I can't think of others in the near future?)
                            7. Ravindra, and then I'll pick the usual four pace... hang on... what about Sir Ajaz Patel?

                            I then wondered about:

                            1. Latham (c)
                            2. Young/Ravindra
                            3. Ravindra/Young
                            4. Conway
                            5. Nicholls
                            6. Blundell
                            7. Jamieson
                            8. Southee
                            9. Wagner
                            10. Patel
                            11. Boult

                            Which offers five bowlers plus part time spin, but Jamieson and Southee feel about a spot too high in the batting order.

                            Might make for some fun times for the selectors...! Especially as and when Kane's elbow heals. I wonder if surgery looms, or if it's even possible for the nature of his injury, but it doesn't seem to be going away any time soon...

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1075

                            @donsteppa would be a little concerned with Kyle at 7 when Ravindra is batting as high as 2 or 3. Would love to see Ravindra continue to build experience in the middle order, but that may well be a luxury we can’t afford in the next year or so.

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                            • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                              I think we're into some interesting selection times for the Test side over the next twelve months.

                              Last night I started to think about a side for Bangladesh without Williamson and Taylor in response to @Chris-B's post, and got myself into a tangle much quicker than I expected. Mainly because Ajaz. I started thinking through roughly...

                              1. Latham
                              2. Young
                              3. Conway (or vice versa with Young)
                              4. "Hmm... possibly Philips, or possibly move Nicholls up one" (I'm not a noted Nicholls fan, but I suppose he does make his own luck)
                              5. Nicholls
                              6. Blundell (although his form with the bat hasn't been great in the last few months, I can't think of others in the near future?)
                              7. Ravindra, and then I'll pick the usual four pace... hang on... what about Sir Ajaz Patel?

                              I then wondered about:

                              1. Latham (c)
                              2. Young/Ravindra
                              3. Ravindra/Young
                              4. Conway
                              5. Nicholls
                              6. Blundell
                              7. Jamieson
                              8. Southee
                              9. Wagner
                              10. Patel
                              11. Boult

                              Which offers five bowlers plus part time spin, but Jamieson and Southee feel about a spot too high in the batting order.

                              Might make for some fun times for the selectors...! Especially as and when Kane's elbow heals. I wonder if surgery looms, or if it's even possible for the nature of his injury, but it doesn't seem to be going away any time soon...

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                              #1076

                              @donsteppa I think they'll have a conversation with Rossco after this series - but, they need to work out if it's form, motivation or physical decline (e.g. eyesight).

                              I find it hard to believe that it's motivation - there was an obvious point to walk away if he was done (though he may not have realised he was). If it's form, they won't drop him after two bad tests. If it's eyesight - it will be pretty obvious in the nets.

                              However, if we are without him - at home - I'd go:

                              Latham
                              Conway
                              Young
                              Nicholls
                              Mitchell
                              Blundell
                              Ravindra
                              Jamieson
                              Southee
                              Wagner
                              Boult

                              Which is a bit tough on Ajaz, who is one of the first names on the teamsheet if we're playing in Asia - but, there's been no point in playing spinners in NZ for a number of years.

                              If Rossco plays then one of Mitch or Ravindra doesn't (probably RR) - if Kane plays, as well - neither does.

                              Interesting question - whether Kane shifts down to 4 when Rossco departs. I think he probably does.

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                                #1077

                                Taylor's knock reminiscent of the last days of Jesse Ryder

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                                  Taylor's knock reminiscent of the last days of Jesse Ryder

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                                  #1078

                                  @mariner4life said in NZ tour of India:

                                  Taylor's knock reminiscent of the last days of Jesse Ryder

                                  He should have hung it up after hitting the winning runs in Southampton. He was never going to top that

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?

                                    I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.

                                    As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.

                                    Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1079

                                    @crucial said in NZ tour of India:

                                    @donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?

                                    I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.

                                    As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.

                                    Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.

                                    Ebbs and flows of cricket. NO ONE can maintain the start he has had which makes sub par efforts look much worse than they probably are.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @crucial said in NZ tour of India:

                                      @donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?

                                      I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.

                                      As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.

                                      Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.

                                      Ebbs and flows of cricket. NO ONE can maintain the start he has had which makes sub par efforts look much worse than they probably are.

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                                      #1080

                                      @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

                                      @crucial said in NZ tour of India:

                                      @donsteppa does anyone know what the injury is?

                                      I got like a tendonitis in my elbow a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing at flaring up again. Not much you can do about it and if KW has something similar I can understand why he cant play. The general soreness is easy to deal with but you can get a shooting pain from a rather simple movement that twists things a funny way.

                                      As for your team I think we have to resign ourselves to removing a pace bowler in the sub-continent. Horses for courses though eg Wags may offer something that Southee or Boult doesn't on these pitches.

                                      Biggest mystery is why KJ was so poor this match.

                                      Ebbs and flows of cricket. NO ONE can maintain the start he has had which makes sub par efforts look much worse than they probably are.

                                      It is a testament to how amazing he has been

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @donsteppa I think they'll have a conversation with Rossco after this series - but, they need to work out if it's form, motivation or physical decline (e.g. eyesight).

                                        I find it hard to believe that it's motivation - there was an obvious point to walk away if he was done (though he may not have realised he was). If it's form, they won't drop him after two bad tests. If it's eyesight - it will be pretty obvious in the nets.

                                        However, if we are without him - at home - I'd go:

                                        Latham
                                        Conway
                                        Young
                                        Nicholls
                                        Mitchell
                                        Blundell
                                        Ravindra
                                        Jamieson
                                        Southee
                                        Wagner
                                        Boult

                                        Which is a bit tough on Ajaz, who is one of the first names on the teamsheet if we're playing in Asia - but, there's been no point in playing spinners in NZ for a number of years.

                                        If Rossco plays then one of Mitch or Ravindra doesn't (probably RR) - if Kane plays, as well - neither does.

                                        Interesting question - whether Kane shifts down to 4 when Rossco departs. I think he probably does.

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                                        wrote on last edited by Donsteppa
                                        #1081

                                        @chris-b said in NZ tour of India:

                                        I find it hard to believe that it's motivation - there was an obvious point to walk away if he was done (though he may not have realised he was). If it's form, they won't drop him after two bad tests. If it's eyesight - it will be pretty obvious in the nets.

                                        I have a sinking feeling it may turn out to be eyesight, or age related slight decline (relative decline) in hand-eye reflexes like late career Ponting.

                                        His brief innings last night looked like a man slightly panicky that he couldn't pick up the ball quickly enough, and was reaching out/swishing away to find it, desperate to get bat onto ball...

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