Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022
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Pfffft, people are going way over the top with the Segner criticism. If we signed Kellow and Seger stayed down south, Kellow would be getting more criticism and Segner would be talked about as the far better prospect.
@chchfanatic did a good job in the off season on behalf of Crusaders rugby convincing everyone on here that Segner is an average prospect and Kellow is an AB in waiting when both haven't even played a super rugby game yet, yet Segner has virtually 2 seasons of NPC under his belt as well as being part of a championship winning Ta$man side in 2020.
@african-monkey said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
Pfffft, people are going way over the top with the Segner criticism. If we signed Kellow and Seger stayed down south, Kellow would be getting more criticism and Segner would be talked about as the far better prospect.
@chchfanatic did a good job in the off season on behalf of Crusaders rugby convincing everyone on here that Segner is an average prospect and Kellow is an AB in waiting when both haven't even played a super rugby game yet, yet Segner has virtually 2 seasons of NPC under his belt as well as being part of a championship winning Ta$man side in 2020.
Its an opinion not criticism.
Don't rate Segner, I rate Kellow I have seen a fair bit of both, so I have an opinion. -
@african-monkey said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
Pfffft, people are going way over the top with the Segner criticism. If we signed Kellow and Seger stayed down south, Kellow would be getting more criticism and Segner would be talked about as the far better prospect.
@chchfanatic did a good job in the off season on behalf of Crusaders rugby convincing everyone on here that Segner is an average prospect and Kellow is an AB in waiting when both haven't even played a super rugby game yet, yet Segner has virtually 2 seasons of NPC under his belt as well as being part of a championship winning Ta$man side in 2020.
Its an opinion not criticism.
Don't rate Segner, I rate Kellow I have seen a fair bit of both, so I have an opinion.@chris Yeah thats fine, and my opinion is that he's getting written off way too early when he's coming into a team that knows how to produce quality loose forwards.
Its a smart bit of business from the Blues imo who clearly see the potential in him.
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@chris Yeah thats fine, and my opinion is that he's getting written off way too early when he's coming into a team that knows how to produce quality loose forwards.
Its a smart bit of business from the Blues imo who clearly see the potential in him.
@african-monkey said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@chris Yeah thats fine, and my opinion is that he's getting written off way too early when he's coming into a team that knows how to produce quality loose forwards.
Its a smart bit of business from the Blues imo who clearly see the potential in him.
yep an you are totally entitled to that opinion.
It is going to be interesting to watch these 2, some more banter between us over this, or I told you so from you or me.:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: -
@african-monkey said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@chris Yeah thats fine, and my opinion is that he's getting written off way too early when he's coming into a team that knows how to produce quality loose forwards.
Its a smart bit of business from the Blues imo who clearly see the potential in him.
yep an you are totally entitled to that opinion.
It is going to be interesting to watch these 2, some more banter between us over this, or I told you so from you or me.:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: -
@chris Ironic that both will make their debut this year too.
Be interesting to see who's right in a few years time haha.
@african-monkey said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@chris Ironic that both will make their debut this year too.
Be interesting to see who's right in a few years time haha.
should be Fun.
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@foobanz said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@canes4life said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
What I don't get is that if Holland wanted to play Savea in the midfield he should have done it in pre-season.
What the f#ck is the point of pre-season, just a waste of time if the team structure doesn't resemble what's going to happen during the season proper.
Well said. It just shows they don't have any idea.
Making drastic changes to your team after week 1 means whatever plan you have you've already ditched. Are we not thinking ahead? Did they not trust their plan for the season?
It's stranger than that. The Canes backline last week looked very sharp at times. Surely that means that you then work on building that to be most of the time/all of the time rather than change it out.
As Isaid I amlooking forward to seeing Jules at 12 but I am alsonot sure it is needed. Or at least have PUJ at 13@crucial said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@foobanz said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@canes4life said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
What I don't get is that if Holland wanted to play Savea in the midfield he should have done it in pre-season.
What the f#ck is the point of pre-season, just a waste of time if the team structure doesn't resemble what's going to happen during the season proper.
Well said. It just shows they don't have any idea.
Making drastic changes to your team after week 1 means whatever plan you have you've already ditched. Are we not thinking ahead? Did they not trust their plan for the season?
It's stranger than that. The Canes backline last week looked very sharp at times. Surely that means that you then work on building that to be most of the time/all of the time rather than change it out.
As Isaid I amlooking forward to seeing Jules at 12 but I am alsonot sure it is needed. Or at least have PUJ at 13Sabra played 12 second half, looked alright
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@bones said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
Fuck that's a bizarre canes team, how many changes from last week?
5 changes to the run on side 2 injury enforced.Procter and the wild child at 7.
@chris said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@bones said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
Fuck that's a bizarre canes team, how many changes from last week?
5 changes to the run on side 2 injury enforced.Procter and the wild child at 7.
Isn't there 5 changes just in the backs? Only Booth and Barrett the same.
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@chris said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@bones said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
Fuck that's a bizarre canes team, how many changes from last week?
5 changes to the run on side 2 injury enforced.Procter and the wild child at 7.
Isn't there 5 changes just in the backs? Only Booth and Barrett the same.
@bones said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@chris said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@bones said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
Fuck that's a bizarre canes team, how many changes from last week?
5 changes to the run on side 2 injury enforced.Procter and the wild child at 7.
Isn't there 5 changes just in the backs? Only Booth and Barrett the same.
Gibson and Prinsep come into the forward pack.
Kirifi and Flanders out of the starting 15 in the pack
Julian Savea and Goosen played last week.JGB,Sullivan and Rayasi come into the backline amongst a confusing shuffle around.
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@bones said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@chris said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@bones said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
Fuck that's a bizarre canes team, how many changes from last week?
5 changes to the run on side 2 injury enforced.Procter and the wild child at 7.
Isn't there 5 changes just in the backs? Only Booth and Barrett the same.
Gibson and Prinsep come into the forward pack.
Kirifi and Flanders out of the starting 15 in the pack
Julian Savea and Goosen played last week.JGB,Sullivan and Rayasi come into the backline amongst a confusing shuffle around.
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@chris said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
Julian Savea and Goosen
And have changed position. Note that word "change"
@bones said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@chris said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
Julian Savea and Goosen
And have changed position. Note that word "change"
Missed that bit,:grinning_face:
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Gee the Canes at $3.30 are a good shout.
We've picked a crap team but most of that Blues team didn't play NPC. I think it'll be a lot closer than $3.30
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@foobanz I think the starting lineup may still prove stronger than last week. Thought Iose deserved a start at 8 though. Will be an interesting match up.
@arhs would definitely look stronger without these weirdo selections.
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@arhs would definitely look stronger without these weirdo selections.
@canes4life said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@arhs would definitely look stronger without these weirdo selections.
What weirdo selectionsâŚ..
Itâs just panic from the incompetent
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@canes4life said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@arhs would definitely look stronger without these weirdo selections.
What weirdo selectionsâŚ..
Itâs just panic from the incompetent
@machpants sums it up.
''Devan Flanders, Ruben Love and Peter Umaga-Jensen â three players the Hurricanes could potentially build their future team around â have all been dropped from the starting lineup to the bench. In their places come Reed Prinsep, Jackson Garden-Bachop and Julian Savea (who has shifted into second five after starting last weekendâs match on the right wing) â three serviceable players who arenât out of their depth at this level of the game, but likely wouldnât make the starting line-up of any other New Zealand team. Those decisions, according to Holland, are almost exclusively tactical.''
We essentially go from looking like favourites to chumps with those changes. Pathetic selections by a pathetic coach.
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@machpants sums it up.
''Devan Flanders, Ruben Love and Peter Umaga-Jensen â three players the Hurricanes could potentially build their future team around â have all been dropped from the starting lineup to the bench. In their places come Reed Prinsep, Jackson Garden-Bachop and Julian Savea (who has shifted into second five after starting last weekendâs match on the right wing) â three serviceable players who arenât out of their depth at this level of the game, but likely wouldnât make the starting line-up of any other New Zealand team. Those decisions, according to Holland, are almost exclusively tactical.''
We essentially go from looking like favourites to chumps with those changes. Pathetic selections by a pathetic coach.
@canes4life HOLLAND OUT!!!!!
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@canes4life HOLLAND OUT!!!!!
@canefan said in Blues vs Hurricanes 02/2022:
@canes4life HOLLAND OUT!!!!!
Look how bad it got before Hammett was dropped, long way to go yet b
