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@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
so, saw an interesting question
Does Joe Burrow ever get back to the Superbowl?
At first i laughed, and then
Superbowls are ridiculously hard to make, let alone win. You take Brady away (who has warped everyone's expectations around talented players and success) and the list of great QBs who have played in 2 SB's starts to drop away alarmingly
Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are two of the greatest of all time, they have played in a combined 2 SBs.
The odds are, that was Burrow's shot. At least at the Bengals.
Hall of Famer Dan Marino never got back
absolute class from both of them
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
absolute class from both of them
Got to be fake, right? Like everything on the internet... otherwise pure gold (as opposed to imitation gold)
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@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
absolute class from both of them
Got to be fake, right? Like everything on the internet... otherwise pure gold (as opposed to imitation gold)
@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
absolute class from both of them
Got to be fake, right? Like everything on the internet... otherwise pure gold (as opposed to imitation gold)
I'm cool either way
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@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
absolute class from both of them
Got to be fake, right? Like everything on the internet... otherwise pure gold (as opposed to imitation gold)
@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@mariner4life said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
absolute class from both of them
Got to be fake, right? Like everything on the internet... otherwise pure gold (as opposed to imitation gold)
They seem like pretty nice guys. Bound to be real
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@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And yet Eli Manning has two rings.
and one of them the most unlikely SB win in my time watching.
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Russell Wilson to the broncos.
Broncos send Seattle Lock, Fant, Shelby Harris, 2 firsts, 2 seconds and a 5th. Plus they get a 4th back from Seattle.
That's a decent haul for Seattle but not insane. Broncos probably will be the happier of the two, you have to feel that this is at least partially Wilson forcing his way out and dropping his price. As a comparison Seattle paid 2 firsts and change for Jamal Adams a couple of years ago, and Adams was more vocally unhappy at the time than Wilson. Two extra seconds are significant and maybe the Seahawks wanted sooner draft picks rather than holding out for a 3rd first.
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Russell Wilson to the broncos.
Broncos send Seattle Lock, Fant, Shelby Harris, 2 firsts, 2 seconds and a 5th. Plus they get a 4th back from Seattle.
That's a decent haul for Seattle but not insane. Broncos probably will be the happier of the two, you have to feel that this is at least partially Wilson forcing his way out and dropping his price. As a comparison Seattle paid 2 firsts and change for Jamal Adams a couple of years ago, and Adams was more vocally unhappy at the time than Wilson. Two extra seconds are significant and maybe the Seahawks wanted sooner draft picks rather than holding out for a 3rd first.
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
Russell Wilson to the broncos.
That's a decent haul for Seattle but not insane.I get a sense that Rodgers re-signing triggered the Broncos pushing 'go' on this one.
Fun times next year - he's great to watch. Seattle in full rebuild now you'd think
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@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
Russell Wilson to the broncos.
That's a decent haul for Seattle but not insane.I get a sense that Rodgers re-signing triggered the Broncos pushing 'go' on this one.
Fun times next year - he's great to watch. Seattle in full rebuild now you'd think
@nzzp said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
Russell Wilson to the broncos.
That's a decent haul for Seattle but not insane.I get a sense that Rodgers re-signing triggered the Broncos pushing 'go' on this one.
Fun times next year - he's great to watch. Seattle in full rebuild now you'd think
Yep I'm interested to see how he goes, he's coming off a bit of a down year but I'm expecting the new surroundings and a pretty talented Broncos roster to help him bounce back.
I wonder if Miller comes back to the Broncos now.
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Quite the group of QBs in the AFC West
Mahomes, Herbert, Wilson and presumably Carr (he needs a new deal but I can't see Raiders going elsewhere)
As he was a tormenter of the 49ers his whole career i'm glad to see Wilson out of the NFC.
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
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And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass
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@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass
The hope/plan is that Lance is that guy.
If 49ers can get Jimmy off the books that frees up $27 mil in cap space for this free agency to spend on areas such as secondary.
You have to wonder if Seahawks are thinking of next year's draft for a QB which is supposed to be stronger than this year's draft for QBs.
It might be Pete Carroll's last season too.
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@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass
The hope/plan is that Lance is that guy.
If 49ers can get Jimmy off the books that frees up $27 mil in cap space for this free agency to spend on areas such as secondary.
You have to wonder if Seahawks are thinking of next year's draft for a QB which is supposed to be stronger than this year's draft for QBs.
It might be Pete Carroll's last season too.
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@canefan said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
@cyclops said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
And one less talented QB in the NFC. Packers and Rams pretty clearly the top two teams there at the moment. Be interesting to see how free agency and the draft unfold and if any other teams manage to improve. Feels like we're at the start of a period of AFC teams dominating.
The 9ers are still missing a top drawer QB to take them all the way. And probably need to improve their secondary so they can actually stop the pass
The hope/plan is that Lance is that guy.
If 49ers can get Jimmy off the books that frees up $27 mil in cap space for this free agency to spend on areas such as secondary.
You have to wonder if Seahawks are thinking of next year's draft for a QB which is supposed to be stronger than this year's draft for QBs.
It might be Pete Carroll's last season too.
I don't know how far along Trey is. It would be ideal if he was at a point where he could start. Shanahan's offense is good for a less than stellar or a young QB because it is so run orientated. If he has the arm and accuracy he could provide a vertical threat that Jimmy didn't and that leaves all that money to spend on the team if they move Jimmy G. The pipe dream is Brady coming back to his home town for one season, don't know how much he would cost though and even if he can just move (I don't know if he was under contract at Tampa for 2023)
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well, no excuses now
we've been told we have the squad to win outside of QB. WIlson isn't at the peak of his powers, but he is an ENORMOUS upgrade on Lock and Bridgewater.
Perhaps we also, you know, try and throw the ball more than 5 yards at a time?
The AFC West is a fucking bloodbath now. A decent team is not going to the playoffs next year
Rodgers getting absolutely paid.
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Carson Wentz going back to the NFC East. He's off to Washington for two 3rd round picks.
This obviously puts Colts in the hunt for a QB.
Wentz is an upgrade for Washington but he's been traded twice in 12 months.
@kiwimurph said in NFL Season 2020/21/22:
Carson Wentz going back to the NFC East. He's off to Washington for two 3rd round picks.
This obviously puts Colts in the hunt for a QB.
Wentz is an upgrade for Washington but he's been traded twice in 12 months.
He's solid in the season, but seems to crumble when the pressure comes on at the pointy end. For desparate teams, x thirds is probably better than any QB you'll get.
You probably won't win the SB with him, but you won't totally shit the bed in the regular season. Annnd if that's the target, he's reasonable.NFL.com has him 19th of all 62 QBs, and it's probably broadly about right. but yeah, not the sort of trade the fans will love for sure
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-ranking-all-62-starting-qbs-of-the-2021-nfl-season
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Wenz is good enough to trade for, not good enough to keep.
