Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I think they know they have to get this right, hence potentially a high production value (although i never though mando had a particularly low one), because this connects so directly to the movies...more so that what we saw of Luke in mando/BoBF
> We're obviously going to get off tatooine stuff which is good
I am trying to remind myself they always but the good stuff in trailers so not to get my hopes up
As I said earlier I’m interested in how they plan to do that cos I’m fairly sure Obi Wan stayed there the whole time without any jaunts elsewhere.
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@mn5 i think the "legends" might have said that but thats all been decanonized unless its in one of the more recent comics/novels?
in saying that, it looked like we only saw obi wan on tatooine so maybe the off world stuff is side stories?....which would be a mistake, i dont want to see a whole lot of non obi wan stuff in the obi wan series
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That does look good although I have major concerns with them effing up the lore, I.e. Vader and OW meeting. Surely they won't do that?
It would also be farking cool if Boba Fett was involved somehow. The tough ruthless Boba Fett not the clueless tool we just saw.
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@rancid-schnitzel we do need to ignore any "lore" pre disney taking over, that's all decanonized and have already gone in very different directions with the sequels etc
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
That does look good although I have major concerns with them effing up the lore, I.e. Vader and OW meeting. Surely they won't do that?
Could do. I can't see how that would retcon anything
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
That does look good although I have major concerns with them effing up the lore, I.e. Vader and OW meeting. Surely they won't do that?
It would also be farking cool if Boba Fett was involved somehow. The tough ruthless Boba Fett not the clueless tool we just saw.
It won’t happen. Them meeting on the Death Star was the first time they’d met in 20 years.
I also doubt we’ll see Fett in any shape or form given he’d be pretty young, I think the bounty hunting side of things will be taken care of by the Inquisitors.
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel we do need to ignore any "lore" pre disney taking over, that's all decanonized and have already gone in very different directions with the sequels etc
I'm talking about lore in the films not the EU or anything else Disney just chucked in the rubbish. The distinct impression given in ANH is that DV hadn't seen OW since he dismembered him. How do they get around that?
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
That does look good although I have major concerns with them effing up the lore, I.e. Vader and OW meeting. Surely they won't do that?
It would also be farking cool if Boba Fett was involved somehow. The tough ruthless Boba Fett not the clueless tool we just saw.
It won’t happen. Them meeting on the Death Star was the first time they’d met in 20 years.
I also doubt we’ll see Fett in any shape or form given he’d be pretty young, I think the bounty hunting side of things will be taken care of by the Inquisitors.
I hope they don't but who knows with this lot.
How old is Luke in the trailer? 7-8 maybe. Fett would be young but not too young. I wonder if the series will take place over a short period or years
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
That does look good although I have major concerns with them effing up the lore, I.e. Vader and OW meeting. Surely they won't do that?
It would also be farking cool if Boba Fett was involved somehow. The tough ruthless Boba Fett not the clueless tool we just saw.
It won’t happen. Them meeting on the Death Star was the first time they’d met in 20 years.
I also doubt we’ll see Fett in any shape or form given he’d be pretty young, I think the bounty hunting side of things will be taken care of by the Inquisitors.
I hope they don't but who knows with this lot.
How old is Luke in the trailer? 7-8 maybe. Fett would be young but not too young. I wonder if the series will take place over a short period or years
Yeah Fett would be in his 20s, just reaching his prime.
But again, I doubt he’ll feature cos we first saw him in ANH working for Jabba direct ( in the scene where Jabba visits Han at the Falcon )
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel we do need to ignore any "lore" pre disney taking over, that's all decanonized and have already gone in very different directions with the sequels etc
I'm talking about lore in the films not the EU or anything else Disney just chucked in the rubbish. The distinct impression given in ANH is that DV hadn't seen OW since he dismembered him. How do they get around that?
Not sure how you draw that conclusion.
At one point in their duel DV says to Obi-Wan 'You should not have come back' and '"When I left you, I was but the learner, now I am the master." I know that Lucas hadn't even made up the prequels yet but surely a 'you left me to die' was in order here? Also 'When I left you' and not the other way around?
The only other clue is the line "I sense something; a presence I have not felt since . . . "
This happens while in the vicinity of not only Obi-Wan but Luke.
Remember that Luke had started opening himself to the force. While the prequel story and a concept that Mustafar was the last time Vader felt the presence of Obi-Wan hadn't been written, what was sketched out was that Vader was Luke's Father. Is the presence that of Padme? -
look i can see how someone might think they hadn't met since mustafar...but i think its far from canon, dont think they'd be retconing anything concrete for them to meet
I imagine though we'll see scenes of vader instructing the inquistitors on finding him and then obiwan interacting with them but possibly not meeting directly
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
That does look good although I have major concerns with them effing up the lore, I.e. Vader and OW meeting. Surely they won't do that?
It would also be farking cool if Boba Fett was involved somehow. The tough ruthless Boba Fett not the clueless tool we just saw.
It won’t happen. Them meeting on the Death Star was the first time they’d met in 20 years.
I also doubt we’ll see Fett in any shape or form given he’d be pretty young, I think the bounty hunting side of things will be taken care of by the Inquisitors.
I hope they don't but who knows with this lot.
How old is Luke in the trailer? 7-8 maybe. Fett would be young but not too young. I wonder if the series will take place over a short period or years
Yeah Fett would be in his 20s, just reaching his prime.
But again, I doubt he’ll feature cos we first saw him in ANH working for Jabba direct ( in the scene where Jabba visits Han at the Falcon )
Yeah, i think it would be a bit confusing having concurrently series with adult boba's at from different times going on
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
That does look good although I have major concerns with them effing up the lore, I.e. Vader and OW meeting. Surely they won't do that?
It would also be farking cool if Boba Fett was involved somehow. The tough ruthless Boba Fett not the clueless tool we just saw.
It won’t happen. Them meeting on the Death Star was the first time they’d met in 20 years.
I also doubt we’ll see Fett in any shape or form given he’d be pretty young, I think the bounty hunting side of things will be taken care of by the Inquisitors.
I hope they don't but who knows with this lot.
How old is Luke in the trailer? 7-8 maybe. Fett would be young but not too young. I wonder if the series will take place over a short period or years
Yeah Fett would be in his 20s, just reaching his prime.
But again, I doubt he’ll feature cos we first saw him in ANH working for Jabba direct ( in the scene where Jabba visits Han at the Falcon )
Yeah but that's the thing - he is exactly where OW is. Would be a shame if he didn't even make an appearance.
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@bovidae Star Wars is now at a point i hold no expectations. As soon as I see Kathleen Kennedy is still involved I have a cold, clammy feeling of impending shitfulness. My hopes were briefly raised by Mandalorian and then promptly dashed by the turd that was BoBF.
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
look i can see how someone might think they hadn't met since mustafar...but i think its far from canon, dont think they'd be retconing anything concrete for them to meet
I imagine though we'll see scenes of vader instructing the inquistitors on finding him and then obiwan interacting with them but possibly not meeting directly
Gee I reckon it takes a pretty loose interpretation to say it isn't canon. The dialogue there gives no indication that they met. Actually my criticism of that scene is that Darth should have been alot more pissed off at the guy who effed him up so much. It was kind of "ah hello".
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
look i can see how someone might think they hadn't met since mustafar...but i think its far from canon, dont think they'd be retconing anything concrete for them to meet
I imagine though we'll see scenes of vader instructing the inquistitors on finding him and then obiwan interacting with them but possibly not meeting directly
Gee I reckon it takes a pretty loose interpretation to say it isn't canon. The dialogue there gives no indication that they met. Actually my criticism of that scene is that Darth should have been alot more pissed off at the guy who effed him up so much. It was kind of "ah hello".
Maybe they had already had that discussion?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
look i can see how someone might think they hadn't met since mustafar...but i think its far from canon, dont think they'd be retconing anything concrete for them to meet
I imagine though we'll see scenes of vader instructing the inquistitors on finding him and then int with them but possibly not meeting directly
Gee I reckon it takes a pretty loose interpretation to say it isn't canon. The dialogue there gives no indication that they met. Actually my criticism of that scene is that Darth should have been alot more pissed off at the guy who effed him up so much. It was kind of "ah hello".
Bear in mind it was a scene that became iconic after the movie was released and when it came out Lucas had no idea what SW would become.
I have more of an issue with the geriatric ”fight” they had ! ( again, the choreography improved out of sight in everything since then )
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@rancid-schnitzel i guess i see it the other way...they dont say specifically when the last time they saw each other is
The more i think about it...i think it would be better if they have a meeting to explain why vader is so casual and why obi wan has completely given up on him
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
look i can see how someone might think they hadn't met since mustafar...but i think its far from canon, dont think they'd be retconing anything concrete for them to meet
I imagine though we'll see scenes of vader instructing the inquistitors on finding him and then int with them but possibly not meeting directly
Gee I reckon it takes a pretty loose interpretation to say it isn't canon. The dialogue there gives no indication that they met. Actually my criticism of that scene is that Darth should have been alot more pissed off at the guy who effed him up so much. It was kind of "ah hello".
Bear in mind it was a scene that became iconic after the movie was released and when it came out Lucas had no idea what SW would become.
I have more of an issue with the geriatric ”fight” they had ! ( again, the choreography improved out of sight in everything since then )
Sure but Lucas could have taken that into account in the prequels.
Yes that fight was lame
. Then you get TPM and them doing insane stuff that blows the OT out of the park. Lucas should also have upgraded the duels during the special editions to accommodate that. Actually I'm not adverse to them doing that now. Ultimately they'll probably reboot the lot eventually 
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel i guess i see it the other way...they dont say specifically when the last time they saw each other is
The more i think about it...i think it would be better if they have a meeting to explain why vader is so casual and why obi wan has completely given up on him
I’m inclined to think their first meeting since Mustafar was on the Death Star purely because of Vader saying he was the learner, now he’s the master.
Then again some Lucas rewrites do fuck up the continuity ( Leia saying she remembers her mother being a massive Clanger )
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel i guess i see it the other way...they dont say specifically when the last time they saw each other is
The more i think about it...i think it would be better if they have a meeting to explain why vader is so casual and why obi wan has completely given up on him
I’m inclined to think their first meeting since Mustafar was on the Death Star purely because of Vader saying he was the learner, now he’s the master.
Then again some Lucas rewrites do fuck up the continuity ( Leia saying she remembers her mother being a massive Clanger )
Didn't they change the dialogue in Jedi for that? Pretty sure they did. Yeah Lucas desperately needed a continuity guy like Game of Thrones Martin. He was no Tolkien that's for sure. That prick had farking languages and everything.
